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98. Joe McCarthy said, "I have here in my hand

Fri Aug 3, 2012, 12:07 AM

Aug 2012

a list of 205—a list of names that were made known to the Secretary of State as being members of the Communist Party and who nevertheless are still working and shaping policy in the State Department."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy

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"A month or so ago, he [Reid] said, a person who had invested with Bain Capital called his office.

'Harry, he didn't pay any taxes for 10 years,' Reid recounted the person as saying.

Harry Reid said, 'He didn't pay taxes for 10 years! Now, do I know that that's true? Well, I'm not certain.' "

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/31/harry-reid-romney-taxes_n_1724027.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

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In both cases, allegations quoting unattributed sources are brandished to the press. To quote our friends from Wikipedia once again, "McCarthyism is the practice of making accusations of disloyalty, subversion, or treason without proper regard for evidence."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

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Dana Bash (CNN) says her source can confirm Reid's tax allegation [View all] kentuck Aug 2012 OP

drip drip high density Aug 2012 #1

It's a ticking bomb that the Mittens campaign can't defuse CabCurious Aug 2012 #157

and yet, Right wing playboy Romney will release a BS version of it fascisthunter Aug 2012 #2

If tax copies are forged then I would think the IRS would step forward and question them INdemo Aug 2012 #53

question is.... who works in the IRS fascisthunter Aug 2012 #56

Is the IRS allowed to do that? quakerboy Aug 2012 #86

no they are not allowed to comment on taxpayers' filings publicly. lastlib Aug 2012 #92

Thats what I figured quakerboy Aug 2012 #114

I agree JustAnotherGen Aug 2012 #136

Where is Wiki Leaks when you need them? Dustlawyer Aug 2012 #147

We need a Bradley manning in the IRS. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2012 #184

You might want to Google "Playboy" johnnyplankton Aug 2012 #163

LOL -Poor Mittens and his unethical lying self. myrna minx Aug 2012 #3

Mitt to schedule trip to Nepal to look for Yeti Botany Aug 2012 #13

Nah, he's in Colorado, having a strategy meeting with Karl Rove and his super pac. notadmblnd Aug 2012 #32

yes we were there....where's mittens??? Slit Skirt Aug 2012 #153

After he finds the Yeti, he's off to find Atlantis so my stars and garters, when would he find myrna minx Aug 2012 #50

Did you say garters? sarcasmo Aug 2012 #151

Yes, they really should leave him be! Kurovski Aug 2012 #90

Fetch the cold comresses and smelling salts... myrna minx Aug 2012 #146

CNN going after Rmoney? RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #4

Reporting the facts is not going after someone, IMO. nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #26

I agree but they've been covering for him a lot lately. RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #42

We democrats understand that pennylane100 Aug 2012 #172

Lol! Excellent and true point! nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #177

They have spent the past decade rebranding themselves as Fox News lite. hay rick Aug 2012 #49

There's a new boss in town. Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #143

I've seen Dana Bash a few times- not sure I'd trust her (or any CNN pundit). Just another CNN AlinPA Aug 2012 #63

Maybe, but would she risk her job for this? /nt mwb970 Aug 2012 #159

I wonder what the chances are Control-Z Aug 2012 #5

That would be seriously illegal...... AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #9

Not to mention that the IRS has the real info. GoCubsGo Aug 2012 #18

And that's exactly what we want to see, and SHOULD ask for! nt AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #40

He doesn't have to do fake. Fuddnik Aug 2012 #20

but they'd have to be signed and dated, so it would essentially screw him either way. n/t progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #75

finally, a good explanation for a delay in releasing the forms -- assuming he eventually will. unblock Aug 2012 #109

bad, bad, bad, yes; but actually illegal? unblock Aug 2012 #106

except that, per above post, that could open an IRS investigation magical thyme Aug 2012 #130

I ran the question past a friend of mine, who would know better than us. I was half right. Fuddnik Aug 2012 #132

that is all SUPER interesting! Thank you for finding all that out! renate Aug 2012 #164

so the irs investigates and quickly figures out he lied to the public. unblock Aug 2012 #142

read post 132. apparently it's not that simple. :) nt magical thyme Aug 2012 #148

distributing doctored returns to the public and actually filing amended returns are very different unblock Aug 2012 #155

he wouldn't need to distribute fake returns unless there was something very wrong with the real ones magical thyme Aug 2012 #156

the possibility is that there's nothing LEGALLY wrong with his returns but POLITICALLY wrong. unblock Aug 2012 #160

there's also a good possibility that he took the 2009 amnesty magical thyme Aug 2012 #161

Romney could give the IRS permission... Blanks Aug 2012 #149

If there are enough questions about his taxes, an official investigation could begin wordpix Aug 2012 #23

Think: John McCain jaysunb Aug 2012 #39

and you don't suppose he has a little grudge against mittens..... lastlib Aug 2012 #95

No way . Even tempered, mild mannered, always forgiving John jaysunb Aug 2012 #102

see post #92 above. lastlib Aug 2012 #94

A "retroactive" tax return, perhaps? Blue_In_AK Aug 2012 #118

YES! YES! YES! Comrade_McKenzie Aug 2012 #6

I'm lovin' it malaise Aug 2012 #7

From dana's lips to god's ears then. xchrom Aug 2012 #8

wow...this is huge...thanks for posting. LOVE IT nt Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2012 #10

Watching Mitt Rmoney self-immolate... backscatter712 Aug 2012 #11

I thought Jon Stewart was a bit harsh on Reid. Baitball Blogger Aug 2012 #12

I think it worked for Reid anyway... immoderate Aug 2012 #28

Some highly placed Dem insiders have all the poop on this. hifiguy Aug 2012 #14

"this source also personally knows the Bain source who would have access to Romney's tax record." wordpix Aug 2012 #15

Why would a Bain source have Romney's tax records? dkf Aug 2012 #45

I suspect Mittens doesn't do his own taxes, he has CPA's etc. at Bain, etc. do it for him. freshwest Aug 2012 #52

Because Romney probably bragged about it, and the source probably does the same thing. JaneyVee Aug 2012 #73

HA! Shankapotomus Aug 2012 #16

The pitbull won't let go of Mittens pants leg flamingdem Aug 2012 #17

Romney can't run away from this forever BootinUp Aug 2012 #19

Not a fan of the unnamed source info. However, since it is SOOOO simple to prove that efhmc Aug 2012 #21

the unnamed source brought down the Nixon admin so don't knock it wordpix Aug 2012 #24

But 'unnamed source' can also = McCarthyism, i.e., accusing someone of something odious coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #78

Um, Romney can release his records he hold the evidence. He's being accused of hiding Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #89

Joe McCarthy said, "I have here in my hand coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #98

So, how do you prove you aren't a Communist? Not easy, especially if eridani Aug 2012 #117

I agree that Romney can make the issue go away by releasing his returns (provided they coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #119

I don't understand why he would eridani Aug 2012 #126

This message was self-deleted by its author coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #119

Source could be Huntsman elfin Aug 2012 #22

that's some pretty astute guesswork Whisp Aug 2012 #34

I have a major suspicion this is the case BSUbluNorange Aug 2012 #35

Welcome to DU! XemaSab Aug 2012 #138

Thank you! BSUbluNorange Aug 2012 #186

Welcome to DU, BSUbluNorange! gateley Aug 2012 #171

actually i'm betting he used that line multiple times oldhippydude Aug 2012 #44

Hehe, Huntsman at one time called Romney a perfectly lubricated weather-vane. nc4bo Aug 2012 #80

Dubya called Mitt and warned him. GreatCaesarsGhost Aug 2012 #25

Mittfalca...you can dance but you can't hide! jpbollma Aug 2012 #27

DUzy! nt Kahuna Aug 2012 #41

DUzy! nt Kahuna Aug 2012 #37

No taxes mitt, while our troops are fighting wars that YOU approved of??? Kahuna Aug 2012 #29

float like a butterfly, sting like a bee grasswire Aug 2012 #30

Romney forgot to play nice with the media... Kalidurga Aug 2012 #31

He has from the begining nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #36

yeah you forgot arely staircase Aug 2012 #43

Seamus is when it started with me. My hatred of him reached the pathological stage coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #81

I got bullied a lot too. Kalidurga Aug 2012 #88

Plus 1000 Auntie Bush Aug 2012 #173

Could this be a trap? moondust Aug 2012 #33

I think that's possible. Kind of like Obama playing Trump on birth certificate. Hoyt Aug 2012 #57

Unlikely. Chan790 Aug 2012 #91

Hmmm... moondust Aug 2012 #105

The plot thickens nevergiveup Aug 2012 #38

Damit Harry gholtron Aug 2012 #46

This is the end Jessy169 Aug 2012 #47

Let's hope Harry hasn't been Ratherized. snot Aug 2012 #48

They wouldn't play THAT dirty - would they? upi402 Aug 2012 #58

My worry too abelenkpe Aug 2012 #85

Nope--no documents involved eridani Aug 2012 #122

Holy frijole, Batman! SunSeeker Aug 2012 #51

this better not be some set-up fascisthunter Aug 2012 #54

Good point, fascisthunter nikto Aug 2012 #182

So can John McCain but he's been kinda quiet about the subject. no_hypocrisy Aug 2012 #55

Mr. I-Haven't-Paid-Taxes-For-10-Years wants to stick it to the 99%? I don't think so! pacalo Aug 2012 #59

It's a trap krawhitham Aug 2012 #60

I hope not sandyshoes17 Aug 2012 #67

If if was a Rove trick.... doohnibor Aug 2012 #76

reid has layed the trap arely staircase Aug 2012 #70

Unless he paid a percentage similar to that of a middle class schmuck, he has problems. MADem Aug 2012 #128

Iworried it was a trap the first time I heard he wouldn't publish his tax returns. Auntie Bush Aug 2012 #174

Is there a link to this besides Kos? Thanks. jillan Aug 2012 #61

Hee hee hee! Love it. Robb Aug 2012 #62

CNN should be commended for their excellent reporting. kentuck Aug 2012 #64

Dana Bash just did a truly excellent investigative report Enrique Aug 2012 #131

Cooper is an ass SHRED Aug 2012 #65

quote from Dana on AC360 tomm2thumbs Aug 2012 #66

It sounds like she is making it up just to get in the middle of the story ("if we knew the name"). AlinPA Aug 2012 #72

well, I think tomm2thumbs Aug 2012 #74

So it's like: "I know a guy who heard a guy talking in a bar about a note his friend found... cherokeeprogressive Aug 2012 #103

I'm hoping this is building to something tangible, like you said, 'here's the source...' tomm2thumbs Aug 2012 #104

I think the more likely scenario would be some low-level IRS employee who wants to curry favor cherokeeprogressive Aug 2012 #110

I'm hoping a reporter asks Romney- So if it isn't true, are you going to sue Reid for Libel/Slander? tomm2thumbs Aug 2012 #115

Even if they reveal no wrongdoing, they will damned well reveal eridani Aug 2012 #124

This tax return issue will not go away Cali_Democrat Aug 2012 #123

yep, it's Harry Reid's credibility that is in question here. 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #134

Well, this could all be resolved ecstatic Aug 2012 #93

She is the Senior Congressional Correspondent for CNN. She knows EVERYONE on the Hill. MADem Aug 2012 #129

So, republicans jus want to defund OUR government to take over our Country fascisthunter Aug 2012 #68

I wonder if richie rich is going to be compelled to release his returns due to possible fraud? Welp lonestarnot Aug 2012 #69

The Obama campaign abolugi Aug 2012 #71

Then we are back to my evolving theory of the fake candidate kickysnana Aug 2012 #77

Plan B. Ron Paul! R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2012 #96

This is building momentum! Chemisse Aug 2012 #79

Getting faster ? RagAss Aug 2012 #82

Haha! LOVE your sig line. Chemisse Aug 2012 #140

.. RagAss Aug 2012 #144

I'm pretty damned sure Reid KNOWS for a fact that Romney paid zero taxes for 10 yrs. Brewinblue Aug 2012 #83

While speaking on the Senate floor weeks ago, Reid mentioned the fact he paid no taxes Cali_Democrat Aug 2012 #107

well this just got funnier cindyperry2010 Aug 2012 #84

oooh la la! Anderson Copperfield strikes again Voice for Peace Aug 2012 #87

I'd like to hear an apology from Jon Stewart if this all pans out. Marr Aug 2012 #97

I think he was criticizing Reid's "his poor father must be so embarrassed" line more than anything boxman15 Aug 2012 #158

I don't know why these rich assholes cry B Calm Aug 2012 #99

This is pure conjecture on my part... kentuck Aug 2012 #100

could be that McCain said something to Reid a long time ago, which would fit the story tomm2thumbs Aug 2012 #108

Heck, Romney's 2010 returns aren't even complete yet! marew Aug 2012 #162

Sweet!!!! Cali_Democrat Aug 2012 #101

Romney must be shitting his pants Jessy169 Aug 2012 #111

Another option. It isn't true, but the real truth is almost as bad n/t eridani Aug 2012 #125

I suspect it's at least 'moral' issue...his defence is searching for high ground HereSince1628 Aug 2012 #133

When he pulles the "legally required" excuse, hit back with "so what?... JHB Aug 2012 #139

There is a moral difference between obeying the letter of the law and obeying the tblue37 Aug 2012 #167

+1 ozsea1 Aug 2012 #168

luscious times 5. n/t pepperbear Aug 2012 #112

The Mormons don't need this garbage... cr8tvlde Aug 2012 #178

This message was self-deleted by its author Jack Sprat Aug 2012 #113

How will the Elders respond? lobodons Aug 2012 #116

As long as they get their 10% cut, they're happy. Vinca Aug 2012 #135

Unless he's been shorting them too. Chan790 Aug 2012 #141

oh my - Berlum Aug 2012 #127

tears of a clown ... napkinz Aug 2012 #137

But clowns are funny. Not pathetic. randome Aug 2012 #169

knr Douglas Carpenter Aug 2012 #145

Chris Christie the new nominee, around Labor Day? sarcasmo Aug 2012 #150

No VP announcement mainstreetonce Aug 2012 #152

My momma always told me beware of quiet people. Oh boy Reid sure has put him in southernyankeebelle Aug 2012 #154

HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2012 #165

Yes! Thanks for the post, Kentuck! David Zephyr Aug 2012 #166

I'm not sure he'd be "in serious trouble". gateley Aug 2012 #170

Lawrence O's guests Sam Stein & Jeremy Temkin are saying something like patrice Aug 2012 #176

I'm just thinking his accountants would know every legal trick in the book, gateley Aug 2012 #179

We should appreciate better how that level of wealth creates its own universe patrice Aug 2012 #180

I so agree! gateley Aug 2012 #181

Dana, Bash! canEHdian Aug 2012 #175

Will Dana Bash still have job come Monday? INdemo Aug 2012 #183

Reid has set the bar too low. If Romney comes up with 15% taxes, grahamhgreen Aug 2012 #185