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OilemFirchen

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44. Your interlocutor picked an unfortunate example for his misguided analysis.

Sun May 27, 2018, 12:27 PM

May 2018

While it's true that in Western democracies, the modern "left" tends toward confiscation and bans, the most restrictive gun laws in the world are generally in the Far East.

One wonders if he would argue that China is more "leftist" than the U.S.

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What constitutes a "centrist" position? [View all] Garrett78 May 2018 OP

Obviously a centrist would be able to agree on a consensus ! OnDoutside May 2018 #1

Right. The old sausage making consensuses between parties Hortensis May 2018 #24

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100% with you on all of that. I've said it here before that centrists shouldn't be apologising for OnDoutside May 2018 #48

The utlrawealthy purged the GOP caucuses of moderates Hortensis May 2018 #50

Great question... DemoHack May 2018 #2

That's a libertarian position TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #5

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I am sad to say that my son almost a socialist and UAW reports that some in his plant support the Demsrule86 May 2018 #21

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Maybe TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #40

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I do TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #43

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Really TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #46

That's not a libertarian position mcar May 2018 #53

It's literally TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #54

Protection of the 2nd amendment is also in our platform GulfCoast66 May 2018 #65

True but TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #68

My point still remains GulfCoast66 May 2018 #69

I hear you and you are right...many union guys believe the left betrayed them as well as the right Demsrule86 May 2018 #22

It depends on the issue. pnwmom May 2018 #3

Moderate political views TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #4

NO, a left left position is gun confiscation so a moderate position would be background checks and Demsrule86 May 2018 #8

NO TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #11

True lefties advocate gun confiscation...so it is true...that is the left position and background Demsrule86 May 2018 #12

It doesn't matter what TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #14

Real world example TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #15

I would add since I assume you meant to post this to me...that it really Demsrule86 May 2018 #20

It does of course TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #25

Who cares about other countries...this is an AMerican problem due to Demsrule86 May 2018 #26

you should TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #30

+1 shanny May 2018 #47

We are not talking about people in power we are talking about different political factions... Demsrule86 May 2018 #18

They've never had power TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #27

Gun control beliefs have confiscation on the far left spectrum, gun registration/gun control in the Demsrule86 May 2018 #19

Context TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #28

A lot of leftists support 2nd Amendment rights MountCleaners May 2018 #52

The GOP's effective smear campaign aside, virtually nobody is advocating gun confiscation. Garrett78 May 2018 #35

What makes gun confiscation a "left" position? PETRUS May 2018 #42

Your interlocutor picked an unfortunate example for his misguided analysis. OilemFirchen May 2018 #44

Switzerland has very liberal gun ownership laws. OilemFirchen May 2018 #17

It does not TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #29

"Joke of an argument". OilemFirchen May 2018 #32

I'm glad to see someone make this point. Garrett78 May 2018 #34

100% TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #36

A centrist has a level headed personality. As you move from the political center towards either Trust Buster May 2018 #6

Well stated Sailor65x1 May 2018 #31

What does "centrist" mean in terms of policy positions? That's what I'm looking for. Garrett78 May 2018 #37

There are centrist in both parties still...some have become independents on the GOP side due to the Demsrule86 May 2018 #7

... shanny May 2018 #49

I said some have become independents...but the votes are still there. Demsrule86 May 2018 #59

As I mentioned in the OP, the vast majority of independents are highly partisan. Garrett78 May 2018 #60

Look the reality is we are going after moderate Republicans and independent votes in order to take Demsrule86 May 2018 #64

In the survey analysis I think you are asking because of muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #9

I think their was a polisci article that described centrists aikoaiko May 2018 #10

Centrists hold different views on different issues. Demsrule86 May 2018 #13

I saw that article...interesting. But I don't think moderates hold GOP positions today as that Demsrule86 May 2018 #23

They don't want much to change leftstreet May 2018 #33

Agreeing to the ACA rather than holding out for single payer treestar May 2018 #51

Few have defined centrist in specific terms. I should have clarified. Garrett78 May 2018 #55

Look at the extreme right and extreme left on any issue and split the differance. Kaleva May 2018 #56

I've not heard anyone who has power and influence call for the banning of all guns. Garrett78 May 2018 #61

Read your own OP. It doesn't speak of people who have power and influence. Kaleva May 2018 #66

Good question. I don't think it's easy to nail down an answer. Captain Stern May 2018 #57

That's also a good question. Garrett78 May 2018 #62

Most of the people I know that call themselves Centrists are really noncommittal. nt Snotcicles May 2018 #58

The "center" depends on what the U.S. is experiencing at a particular time in history Uncle Joe May 2018 #63

I like the Democrat's positions Gothmog May 2018 #67