General Discussion

vi5

(13,305 posts)

144. I'm right there with you.....

Mon May 28, 2018, 05:21 PM

May 2018

....I feel like I am in topsy turvy land sometimes.

I've been on DU since almost the beginning and have been an active, across the board Democrat since the mid 80's and yet I get called a Russian bot or a concern troll or a pony wanting leftist or whatever else simply because I think that maybe (crazy thing to point out here so get ready).....the Democratic party isn't doing all that well electorally and maybe we should make some changes to our approaches and/or leadership.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

158 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

What is the Dem message? [View all] LAS14 May 2018 OP

SAme message we have had for a long time. But implying we dont have a message plays Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #1

So true. Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #4

Yes it does pandr32 May 2018 #21

OK, so what is it? LAS14 May 2018 #39

Read the platform...but the message will vary from state to state. Demsrule86 May 2018 #69

So at the next campaign the Dem candidate's slogan will be "Read the platform!" That'll work. LAS14 May 2018 #70

There is no universal message. We should run on the ACA and may gas prices if they stay high...but Demsrule86 May 2018 #77

"You and others." You and others should pay attention to what the question was. LAS14 May 2018 #80

It is not either/or in reality treestar May 2018 #92

We have a message. We have had a message since the Great Depression. Alethia Merritt May 2018 #61

I think the whole idea is malarkey treestar May 2018 #91

I'm not a republican? pwb May 2018 #2

How is that different from "Not Trump"? LAS14 May 2018 #38

Trump is one person. Republicans are all over the country. pwb May 2018 #57

Same principle though. How does that appeal to people who aren't that... LAS14 May 2018 #63

If people aren't worried about Putins Russia they are not very bright. pwb May 2018 #67

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2018 #79

That's been essentially it for the past 20 or so years... vi5 May 2018 #78

yeah. that one worked real good in 2016. nt m-lekktor May 2018 #150

Yes but now they have been exposed as tools of Russia and fake religion. pwb May 2018 #157

So predictable, LAS14. Read our platform. Surely way past time? Hortensis May 2018 #3

Dear OP: Read it again & Do let us know if the Democratic Party missed anything. Thanks Wwcd May 2018 #12

Resource? northremembers May 2018 #15

Omfg. Wwcd May 2018 #17

Resource with pictures? ProudLib72 May 2018 #20

! uppityperson May 2018 #23

Reaching out to Rump voters ProudLib72 May 2018 #51

Click on the link for democrats.org, read the Preamble, research your rep. chowder66 May 2018 #25

+ a million. Thank You Wwcd May 2018 #26

:) I hope that was helpful. chowder66 May 2018 #33

It was northremembers May 2018 #58

Here's another statement of national principles, North. Hortensis May 2018 #85

good one! treestar May 2018 #94

You're welcome and welcome to D.U.! nt chowder66 May 2018 #123

well said! Kurt V. May 2018 #60

+1 DesertRat May 2018 #22

The average Joe doesn't read or give a damn about that list. The Rpublicans are beating doc03 May 2018 #29

You've said it in a nutshell. Right! What's our alternative in a nutshell? LAS14 May 2018 #65

My first suggestion to some (not saying you) is don't vote your conscience or send a message by Demsrule86 May 2018 #72

+1! mcar May 2018 #73

Thank you! Demsrule86 May 2018 #75

+1000000000 treestar May 2018 #97

I know. Thanks for the +...thus the left left (Green slime ET AL) has no credibility with me. Demsrule86 May 2018 #116

How is it that is the only thing that works? treestar May 2018 #96

They aren't really beating the crap out of us treestar May 2018 #95

Way to long to be a message that plays to the public. We're going to tell.. LAS14 May 2018 #40

They are too stupid to do that? treestar May 2018 #98

Absolutely too many voters are like that! rusty fender May 2018 #121

+1000 treestar May 2018 #93

Perhaps he's looking for short repeatable sentences that can be made into memes ismnotwasm May 2018 #119

Yawn mcar May 2018 #5

Favorite group "Ask the Admimistrators" grantcart May 2018 #84

Hmmm mcar May 2018 #87

50 state strategy. bearsfootball516 May 2018 #6

Thanks for the first thoughtful reply. I was getting depressed. LAS14 May 2018 #41

Leave it to locals to craft their campaigns. Blue_true May 2018 #7

Times have changed northremembers May 2018 #14

Thanks to you and Blue True. This is the kind of conversation... LAS14 May 2018 #44

See my reply #44. LAS14 May 2018 #45

Better Deal? jalan48 May 2018 #8

You've not been following the news? Predictable anti-Dem bullshit is predictable. bettyellen May 2018 #9

You are correct. Thanks for calling it out for what it is: Predictable Anti-Democrat Bullshit. NurseJackie May 2018 #32

This has been posted before..but just for you, Here: Wwcd May 2018 #10

Those are pretty vague oberliner May 2018 #11

Re-read posts #3 & #12 for the more in-depth version. Wwcd May 2018 #13

I'd boil that down oberliner May 2018 #16

If thats all ya need then that's a good campaign ad, but The Dem Party takes serious Wwcd May 2018 #19

I just thought those other 4 seemed vague oberliner May 2018 #24

No way does this make it to a sound bite for a real campaign. LAS14 May 2018 #42

Hating billionaires. Also hating corporations and R B Garr May 2018 #18

Hmm, what was Bernie's "message" treestar May 2018 #99

fairness...competency...compassion....progress samnsara May 2018 #27

Competency! treestar May 2018 #101

There isn't one other than trump is a bum. nt doc03 May 2018 #28

Oh good god! GMAFB! Stop it! Enough! NurseJackie May 2018 #30

+++++++++ R B Garr May 2018 #31

How many times do we have to do this. betsuni May 2018 #37

That was never the "message"in 2016 treestar May 2018 #102

My candidates are focused on our state/district issues. JNelson6563 May 2018 #34

Interesting. Thanks. LAS14 May 2018 #43

All politics is local... Wounded Bear May 2018 #89

"Trump is eeeeeevil, and we're your only alternative" regnaD kciN May 2018 #35

That was not the 2016 message mcar May 2018 #76

Watch for RW/Russian Propaganda Campaigns TomCADem May 2018 #36

Wow.....I must be playing a really long game..... vi5 May 2018 #83

The last time we won Congress was 2008 treestar May 2018 #103

2008 vi5 May 2018 #111

no one said they are perfect treestar May 2018 #131

Thank you. It's interesting that certain fans can't R B Garr May 2018 #136

But it is up to our leaders to solve those problems... vi5 May 2018 #142

Well how do we do a better job? treestar May 2018 #152

The sneering, arrogant "look down the nose" responses you're getting stmac May 2018 #46

Welcome! Let me guess.... R B Garr May 2018 #47

"What did I miss" stmac May 2018 #49

Here's a theory stmac May 2018 #50

I bet Democrats know what the message is. R B Garr May 2018 #53

Post removed Post removed May 2018 #55

Welcome! Sounds familiar! R B Garr May 2018 #56

"Welcome" ... heh-heh! ;-) NurseJackie May 2018 #62

I've noticed that! You've already said what I was thinking, R B Garr May 2018 #88

That's a bad theory. betsuni May 2018 #59

Yep! treestar May 2018 #106

on this board, we've had this question a million times before treestar May 2018 #104

Too many on here approach political loss and lack of success.... vi5 May 2018 #118

OTOH it does not mean that it is ALWAYS our fault treestar May 2018 #132

No, but after a certain point.... vi5 May 2018 #141

Useless without solutions treestar May 2018 #151

What is the message isn't the issue bluecollar2 May 2018 #48

Hey, folks - This right here. n/t Beartracks May 2018 #52

You're probably right. How can we improve? nt LAS14 May 2018 #64

Perhaps we could start by not posting threads that basically imply Democrat have no message which Demsrule86 May 2018 #74

OFGS. I thought this was supposed to be a "discussion" forum. It was an either/or... LAS14 May 2018 #82

Why should we discuss if the Dems have a message or not? There is a message and we all have access Demsrule86 May 2018 #115

I think that the message has to be targeted based upon bluecollar2 May 2018 #129

we shouldn't sit back and accept that ; challenge the voters to get involved treestar May 2018 #133

Ok...if you are expecting the average American voter bluecollar2 May 2018 #147

Then they deserve what they get treestar May 2018 #153

The message should be "get involved" treestar May 2018 #107

Well, Republicans betrayed their voters. Our candidates have opportunity to bring that up. ooky May 2018 #54

I see that you are looking for sound bites, not a wealth of information, MoonRiver May 2018 #66

Will those suffice for ads in elections? LAS14 May 2018 #71

Bill Clinton said those exact words, Make America Great Again R B Garr May 2018 #86

Hope and Change treestar May 2018 #109

Yeah, I think "Make America Great Again" was a big piece of it. nt LAS14 May 2018 #124

Bill Clinton also had a hope message. "A place called Hope" R B Garr May 2018 #130

Their interpretation of what they meant treestar May 2018 #134

Those are both... vi5 May 2018 #81

Hillary Clinton's plan 25 years ago was called R B Garr May 2018 #100

There's another thought treestar May 2018 #110

Yes! We should run on what the Clintons did R B Garr May 2018 #113

And if I recall correctly, rusty fender May 2018 #122

Why don't you come up with something then? MoonRiver May 2018 #105

Uh.... vi5 May 2018 #112

Meaning you have no message. MoonRiver May 2018 #114

I have plenty of messages.... vi5 May 2018 #117

I'm sure the Democratic Party would welcome your messaging suggestions MoonRiver May 2018 #120

You've just described why the negative campaigning R B Garr May 2018 #125

Who are you demanding the message of? treestar May 2018 #137

but then you will undermine their professional expertise and treestar May 2018 #135

Yes, we leave it up to whatever works in their district or state...otherwise I suggest you read the Demsrule86 May 2018 #68

It is not simplistic treestar May 2018 #90

Post removed Post removed May 2018 #108

I wish the DNC would draft a document called "A promise to America" randr May 2018 #126

Democrats just rolled out a broad reform agenda. Would it make a difference? Gothmog May 2018 #127

"A Better Deal"... PoliticAverse May 2018 #128

I think we need something simple, concrete, and easy to understand. dawg May 2018 #138

It needs to be even simpler than that.... vi5 May 2018 #143

No need to specifically add "tax the wealthy" to the list. dawg May 2018 #145

My point was..... vi5 May 2018 #146

Now I'm seeing red... WiffenPoof May 2018 #139

I'm right there with you..... vi5 May 2018 #144

yep that first response says it all. m-lekktor May 2018 #149

My message to visitors who attempt to devalue Democratic principles and motives: bite me. Judi Lynn May 2018 #140

Trying to dump? I asked an either/or question, not knowing for sure... LAS14 May 2018 #148

has to start with district specific with some national influence, buts has to start locally beachbum bob May 2018 #154

If we lost because MyNameGoesHere May 2018 #155

Unfortunately any candidate has to get the votes of a big hunk of those folks to win. nt LAS14 May 2018 #156

I think the idea that people don't vote for Democrats because of catchphrases is ridiculous. betsuni May 2018 #158