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kstewart33

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101. Bernie will run, but I doubt he will be a major factor as he was in 2016.

Mon May 28, 2018, 08:30 PM

May 2018

Too old, too great a sense of "been there, done that," other younger Democrat figures will be running, and among the Democrats, a great belief that above all else, we must beat Trump, and Bernie is way-too left to appeal to moderates and center-left Dems.

But above all else, 2020 is still a ways away. And Jane's troubles continue with the FBI investigation.

And of course, if Sanders refuses to release his tax returns (and many years of returns), it won't sit well, not this time.

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Editorial: Bernie Sanders Keeps Fighting the Good Fight [View all] Donkees May 2018 OP

'Respectfully decline' hah Demsrule86 May 2018 #1

Bernie will run, but I doubt he will be a major factor as he was in 2016. kstewart33 May 2018 #101

I hope you are right. I certainly won't vote for Sen. Sanders in a primary. I did last time, and I Demsrule86 May 2018 #140

Me, too. kstewart33 May 2018 #158

This makes me like him even less...how could he risk this if he truly cares about the policies he Demsrule86 May 2018 #159

Bingo. kstewart33 May 2018 #173

Totally agree. Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #179

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2018 #2

Bernie! Voltaire2 May 2018 #3

I second the motion!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #26

Sucks! YessirAtsaFact May 2018 #160

lmao!!! LSFL May 2018 #4

Fighting the good fight Kurt V. May 2018 #5

Yup, and no one does it better than Bernie. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #31

WINNING murielm99 May 2018 #139

Trashing this thread Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2018 #6

Inside of a paper bag PubliusEnigma May 2018 #7

The link says it all: "The-Inimitable-Bernie-Sanders" George II May 2018 #8

Oh pleeeeze! nt jrthin May 2018 #9

Yes Bernie, pleeeeze keep fighting the good fight and run in 2020... pleeeeze! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #39

You do realise that if he runs as an indy in 2020 (he will never win the Dem nomination) Exotica May 2018 #98

Who said run as an Indy? Sure as fuck wasn't me... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #107

Run Again In The Dem Primary? Me. May 2018 #113

Yeah, what happened before is in the past. R B Garr May 2018 #121

LOL, that's a lot of fiction you're making up... when has Bernie InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #123

Don't Pretend You Don't Know Me. May 2018 #124

So let me get this straight...you're seriously arguing that if Bernie runs in & wins the Democratic InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #129

I Don't Konw What HE Will Do In The Future Me. May 2018 #131

There's not a damn thing in Bernie's past to give the slightest indication InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #135

Blah, Blah, Blah Me. May 2018 #150

Says the one who has no response... I see your hate for Bernie has no bounds. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #168

My Turn Me. May 2018 #169

Still no response I see... says it all. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #180

Hah! Me. May 2018 #181

Go Bernie! shanny May 2018 #10

A summer intern got to write their first editorial, I see. WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #11

Good One Me. May 2018 #12

That sounds like something Kellyanne Conway or Yukon Barbie might say. Kudos. SMC22307 May 2018 #55

Right on! I applaud them too! mountain grammy May 2018 #154

Did Bernie attack Walmart over the same issue? dansolo May 2018 #13

I'm so glad you asked. Voltaire2 May 2018 #14

That's January 2018. "Repeatedly"? George II May 2018 #16

Yes it was January. Was that a bad month for attacking Walmart? Voltaire2 May 2018 #18

Once again, "repeatedly"? At least you didn't say "for the last decade (plus)" George II May 2018 #23

Down thread you reference another Sanders speech Voltaire2 May 2018 #24

Even the first two pages of a simple google search yield references in 2013/2014 Hassin Bin Sober May 2018 #27

Than you.... pangaia May 2018 #29

The anti-Sanders contingent really needs to get it together. SMC22307 May 2018 #54

"Lil engines that could".. disillusioned73 May 2018 #144

They have to know this... but hey, anything to bash Bernie, which includes ignoring facts. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #28

Oh, you know the point. George II May 2018 #37

No I really don't know what your point is. Voltaire2 May 2018 #40

How about longer than the last decade? This is from 2004 Uncle Joe May 2018 #59

Why Google when you can just invent your own "Poo-gle" reality? InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #36

Lol. Only for like the last decade (plus). Hassin Bin Sober May 2018 #15

The oldest citation I can find was in 2016. George II May 2018 #17

Your googles must be stuck on 2016 Hassin Bin Sober May 2018 #21

And what does this have to do with Sanders presumably fighting Walmart for "the last decade (plus)"? George II May 2018 #22

Does that mean Bernie won't be getting a seat on the Wal-Mart Board anytime soon? InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #34

ROFL m-lekktor May 2018 #133

Oh snap.. disillusioned73 May 2018 #145

Why doesn't this ruthless maneuver to keep citizens Hortensis May 2018 #19

Ask the Vermont Democrat Party. They bless it. aikoaiko May 2018 #25

Some "message." Sanders VOTES Democrat, Hortensis May 2018 #49

His supporters' priority, as far as I can tell, aikoaiko May 2018 #53

I recently read that Bernie's approval numbers in Vermont are down. kstewart33 May 2018 #100

As of the first quarter 2018 America's Most and Least Popular Senators Uncle Joe May 2018 #102

Thank you. 72% approval rating in Vermont! mountain grammy May 2018 #147

Well said mountain grammy Uncle Joe May 2018 #148

The ruthless maneuver prevents a rat fuck candidate Voltaire2 May 2018 #30

This is well-known policy - third time is been done - any candidate is free to run. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #38

So why not just accept the nomination? NT Adrahil May 2018 #43

If one nonsense attack fails just move on to another. Voltaire2 May 2018 #48

That's not an answer.... Adrahil May 2018 #61

This is the arrangement... tonedevil May 2018 #63

Still no answer. Why doesn't Sanders accept the nomination? NT Adrahil May 2018 #117

This subthread started with Voltaire2 May 2018 #72

. Hassin Bin Sober May 2018 #73

Another no answer... Adrahil May 2018 #119

.. Uncle Joe May 2018 #82

Another no answer. Adrahil May 2018 #120

aaaaannnnd.... no answer. Again. NT Adrahil May 2018 #118

That is a really bad assessment of what is happening. What IS happening is that Sanders runs as JCanete May 2018 #45

Wasn't his mantra about choices for voters?? R B Garr May 2018 #46

he is running unopposed because nobody is opposing him. This has nothing at all to do with JCanete May 2018 #47

Ah, it is interesting to see the thought processes R B Garr May 2018 #52

It is even more interesting that the experts here Voltaire2 May 2018 #56

I was thinking the same thing about Bernie smearing MY R B Garr May 2018 #57

I'd be happy if Feinstein were replaced by a less Voltaire2 May 2018 #58

It is certainly not appropriate for him to smear R B Garr May 2018 #60

Our Revolutions numbers are acutally pretty impressive for a new group....What's their win JCanete May 2018 #67

That is laughable to compare the Revolution to 30 R B Garr May 2018 #69

I think you totally missed my point. Would you discount democrats as a party worth supporting if JCanete May 2018 #74

More tangents. I support Democrats. Not 3rd party R B Garr May 2018 #80

My senator, Diane Feinstien Lordquinton May 2018 #104

My Senator, Dianne Feinstein, would be savaged if she dared R B Garr May 2018 #105

Yep. The California Democratic Party didn't endorse but Bernie is a bad guy for not endorsing. Hassin Bin Sober May 2018 #106

Imagine thinking that someone saying they are staying out of something Lordquinton May 2018 #126

First of all, there is no smearing going on. None. Lordquinton May 2018 #125

Those so-called endorsements are not what voters R B Garr May 2018 #136

So your problem now is that people you disagree Voltaire2 May 2018 #167

That makes absolutely no sense. Can I impose R B Garr May 2018 #183

So disagreement is smearing? Lordquinton Jun 2018 #185

You know you make no sense because if Feinstein dared to R B Garr Jun 2018 #186

This has been a trip Lordquinton Jun 2018 #187

Sanders' own words out of his mouth was that he wasn't endorsing R B Garr Jun 2018 #189

Be the change you want to see Lordquinton Jun 2018 #191

Take your own advice. If he said he wasn't endorsing R B Garr Jun 2018 #192

Exactly! mountain grammy May 2018 #149

What are you talking about? Show me where I've said that 3rd parties don't split the vote. I think JCanete May 2018 #66

All these paragraphs and not a single thing to do R B Garr May 2018 #70

well what the hell was your comment to do with. If you mean the design of your comment, i'm JCanete May 2018 #75

Obvious tangent is obvious. R B Garr May 2018 #81

I still have no idea what you were trying to say, and its you, not me, that likes it that way. What JCanete May 2018 #83

LOL, it is by design. R B Garr May 2018 #86

How does him running unopposed reflect whether or not choices are good? He can't exactly run against JCanete May 2018 #91

LOL, another sidebar. You manufacture scenarios R B Garr May 2018 #93

what actually happened? Explain to me how it would have been different had he run as an independent. JCanete May 2018 #94

None of this addressed my point. Again. R B Garr May 2018 #96

the funny part is I'm not trying to ignore it. What is it? I thought it was that choice is good, JCanete May 2018 #97

It's amazing that those who claim primaries/elections are "rigged" are perfectly happy... George II May 2018 #122

Thank you!! Several sidebars and distractions, but you R B Garr May 2018 #137

Why doesn't this insipid fanboyism stay in the BS Group? grantcart May 2018 #50

"insipid fanboyism"... SidDithers May 2018 #89

Fight the good fight, Bernie. I thank you. aikoaiko May 2018 #20

The guy never gives up, never gives in, and, thankfully, Bernie still has a lotta fight left in him. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #35

It's as if the man wants with a clear conscience when he meets his maker. nt Snotcicles May 2018 #44

Yes, and he will be truly at peace knowing he gave it his all. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #51

Recommending this thread. guillaumeb May 2018 #32

K & R! Lifelong Protester May 2018 #33

Does the good fight include backing candidates who can win elections? BannonsLiver May 2018 #41

Yes. Look at all these nice Democratic Candidates Hassin Bin Sober May 2018 #42

My bad. BannonsLiver May 2018 #110

As expected.. disillusioned73 May 2018 #146

I just don't get it... WiffenPoof May 2018 #62

Stop with that. Please. tavernier May 2018 #64

I think I know the name of one of them DFW May 2018 #65

So... WiffenPoof May 2018 #71

The problem is that you made a really good point that supports Bernie. StrictlyRockers May 2018 #78

I'd like to know when the glorification of one man stops and the TRUTH is spoken as fact. Wwcd May 2018 #85

Wrong. Not true. Try again. Hassin Bin Sober May 2018 #99

His Vote Against Magnitsky was NOT Democratic. Nor his lack of concern for women's issues. Wwcd May 2018 #79

Then why does he refuse to join the party Trumpocalypse May 2018 #92

Waiting for Bernie to walk on water... VOX May 2018 #68

Post Award of the day. Thank you. Wwcd May 2018 #88

What A Great Way To Put It Me. May 2018 #152

Yes he does. ananda May 2018 #76

Post removed Post removed May 2018 #77

K & R your post. Wwcd May 2018 #84

Actually Bernie was opposed to the TPP going back to January of 2014 Uncle Joe May 2018 #95

+++I always thought his TPP attacks were really a back door R B Garr May 2018 #103

There is nothing "back door" about Bernie, he opposed NAFTA in 1991, policy Uncle Joe May 2018 #108

Bashing the Clintons has always been his bread and butter and 2015-16 was a feast. ucrdem May 2018 #112

Can you see the difference? I said "policy" is what Bernie is all about and you said Clintons those Uncle Joe May 2018 #114

The point is that once it became a Clinton policy Bernie's star rose swiftly. ucrdem May 2018 #115

The point is George H.W. Bush was President in 1991 when Bernie came out against NAFTA and more Uncle Joe May 2018 #142

What did his "good fight" get us again? Not Democracy, as we sit here today. Wwcd May 2018 #127

That is your opinion. Others saw another strategy, R B Garr May 2018 #116

Good point RB. Face reality. Bernie Sanders will never ever have what it takes to unite & heal Wwcd May 2018 #134

Sure. He's a peach...nt SidDithers May 2018 #87

Indeed. Ya just never know what its like on the inside till ya open it up. Wwcd May 2018 #90

Thank you Senator Sanders. jalan48 May 2018 #109

+1000 Uncle Joe May 2018 #111

+1001 InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #130

For what? Democracy is in tatters. Thanks for nothin bern. Wwcd May 2018 #128

You Might As Well Save Your 'Breath' Me. May 2018 #132

That's the truth, ME Wwcd May 2018 #138

Back At You Me. May 2018 #151

That's what I usually say about trumpers.. mountain grammy May 2018 #153

We Do Agree On Many Things Me. May 2018 #155

Then please stop disrespecting me.. mountain grammy May 2018 #157

That's Quite A Case Of Umbrage You Have This Morning Me. May 2018 #162

Please tell me what Democratic views he hasn't supported.. mountain grammy May 2018 #165

"So are you just upset that Democratic views had to catch up with Bernie Sanders?" Me. May 2018 #170

Oh, so are you still holding on to mountain grammy May 2018 #171

Clearly Me. May 2018 #172

I am anti war, pro union, pro civil rights, pro human rights and equality. mountain grammy May 2018 #175

We Can Unite On Those Things Dems Support Me. May 2018 #178

Good luck with trying to figure out what the point is, Uncle Joe May 2018 #174

No kidding! mountain grammy May 2018 #176

No shit. The hate fest is appalling. Voltaire2 May 2018 #163

Yes it is, yes it is. mountain grammy May 2018 #166

The irony of your post would be funny if it wasn't so sad. n/t Uncle Joe May 2018 #141

What is sad about not wanting Sen. Sanders to run because we might lose much as we did in 16 Demsrule86 May 2018 #161

You begin with "Democracy is in tatters" and yet your argument is basically counter Uncle Joe May 2018 #164

There is no question that the electorate was divided after the 16 primary.. which led some to stay Demsrule86 May 2018 #182

by "the entire thing" I think you mean both the electoral votes and the popular vote. mountain grammy May 2018 #184

K&R.. disillusioned73 May 2018 #143

. NCTraveler May 2018 #156

He needs to corral the nutbars working for him, though Blue_Tires May 2018 #177

HARD PASS! nt Are_grits_groceries Jun 2018 #188

"the focus right now is on 2018. 2020 is a way away" Sanders 5/31/2018 Sunlei Jun 2018 #190