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moriah

(8,312 posts)
94. Maybe this is my "ginger female" privilege speaking, but....
Tue May 29, 2018, 10:24 PM
May 2018

... I've never had to call the cops for noise complaints. And yes, I worked nights for five years.

Why do I think it could be privilege making me never have to resort to it?

1) The whole ginger stereotype of a temper. I do have one, but learned through observation of family that four-letter words and yelling did very little, while the reverse -- especially when actually extremely angry -- worked wonders because it apparently led to an appearance of being a ginger about to snap (heh, puns). When I am not actually angry, just mildly annoyed, perhaps people fear I'll go from zero to SuperBitch and so they take a "friendly request" as getting off lucky.

2) Being female, I'm not likely to be perceived as escalating a situation by my intervention as much, especially if I use the folkways learned growing up as one. We're socially conditioned to learn the art of smoothing things over. We certainly aren't likely capable of causing physical harm to someone we approach directly vs getting a cop/manager to do it -- and maybe it's the gingertude, but I am not afraid for my *own* physical safety knocking on someone's door, or walking up to someone in a parking lot working on a car, etc. Most people are people, and "Hey, I know it's daytime and all but **insert reason here why noise is bothersome**, so could you turn it down?" is not that scary to say. At least for me.

Yes, I've called the cops when domestic disputes escalated -- fights between men that got physical, or yelling matches heard between men and women where I feared for people's safety more than the noise concerns. But when it was just display yelling between men and I saw no blows being exchanged, I walked outside and simply said, loud enough to be heard, "Is there a problem? Do you *need* me to call the law?" I'm sure I sounded annoyed -- I was. The person causing trouble left, and the neighbor thanked me for demonstrating to that person that such doesn't fly here.

I just don't understand why people don't have the guts to simply talk things out unless there's a legitimate safety concern. According to this account at least, not a single person of the many he must have been bothering so much bothered to knock, and the noise wasn't happening when the cop showed up. If nothing else, a *faster* resolution certainly would have come from a knock on the door by a neighbor vs waiting for a cop -- whose presence was essentially useless once he did get there and his time was wasted.

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WOW , thanks for sharing ! stonecutter357 May 2018 #1
Cop Knock. Iggo May 2018 #2
How rotten-- dawg day May 2018 #3
What "incident"? Someone calling in false reports to the police? uppityperson May 2018 #4
Be sure to check out the Comments section, if you can stomach it EffieBlack May 2018 #5
So ready for some drama lol askyagerz May 2018 #15
Shit...I'm a doctor and my Alexa rocks out to Biggie regularly Docreed2003 May 2018 #6
Disgusting ismnotwasm May 2018 #7
Set speakers facing the neighbor and play some infrasonic sounds, around 5Hz. Make them nauseous. TheBlackAdder May 2018 #8
Most house speakers cut off around 35 hz. Dr Hobbitstein May 2018 #27
I have two PB12-Ultra/2 Subwoofers Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #36
I'm still using my SONY speakers CountAllVotes May 2018 #77
Like I said, most. There's always an exception. nt Dr Hobbitstein May 2018 #86
Most of those speaker manufacturer specs are bullshit, that the company puts out to sell their gear. TheBlackAdder May 2018 #38
Still, requires a lot more amplification at lower frequencies... Dr Hobbitstein May 2018 #87
Almost every subwoofer will reach it with little effort. TheBlackAdder May 2018 #88
Maybe you're right... Dr Hobbitstein May 2018 #89
Ah...The Brown Note. Iggo May 2018 #50
I'll admit that I googled for more info ecstatic May 2018 #78
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker May 2018 #9
Most cities have noise limits and/or noise nuisance laws even during the daytime. meadowlander May 2018 #10
I was helping a male relative remodel his house... RockRaven May 2018 #12
I'm not disagreeing with you meadowlander May 2018 #17
Its Chapel Hill. If the Pope was coming through and had a choir someone would complain about noise Lee-Lee May 2018 #20
If you don't open the door, what are the cops to do? MrScorpio May 2018 #11
she didn't have to open the door or provide ID. He would have left Demovictory9 May 2018 #16
bingo. Mosby May 2018 #42
I have got that knock many a times for playing music askyagerz May 2018 #13
That's really messed up RainCaster May 2018 #14
So her entire complaint is that someone called about her loud music? Lee-Lee May 2018 #18
Most cops on a noise ordinance call won't have a gun drawn woodsprite May 2018 #19
Gun drawn? Where do you get that from? Lee-Lee May 2018 #23
There were no guns drawn. Tipperary May 2018 #40
Oh no couldn't possibly be racism...just noise really Demsrule86 May 2018 #22
I didn't say it could be, I said it mostly likely wasn't Lee-Lee May 2018 #24
Less a truth, more a hypothesis, regardless of the irrelevancy of its convenience. LanternWaste May 2018 #30
re: "...no more than fifty (50) decibels during the day." discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2018 #68
Yeah, that's an insane noise ordinance as I said before Lee-Lee May 2018 #75
Seems like it was too loud. I had the cops come to my door once for that. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #102
At 3:00 PM? Demsrule86 May 2018 #21
Welcome to Chapel Hill Lee-Lee May 2018 #25
It has been my experience that when cops arrive for a minor complaint with guns drawn it is Demsrule86 May 2018 #28
It doesn't say the gun was drawn. Vinca May 2018 #29
Yes, you are correct... Demsrule86 May 2018 #32
Was he supposed to tie his right hand behind is back, maybe hold it in the air? mythology May 2018 #34
She got a violation or it was 'reported' whatever...at 3:00 in the afternoon...yeah I worked Demsrule86 May 2018 #81
She didn't get a "violation", that claim is nonsense Lee-Lee May 2018 #83
ID was required so it could be reported...in my book that is a violation. Demsrule86 May 2018 #85
"Your book" is nonsense you are making up Lee-Lee May 2018 #92
Obviously, it is in the system...which is why he demanded her ID. Demsrule86 May 2018 #100
It shows how much you were manipulated by the way the story was presented Lee-Lee May 2018 #37
Oh and to your last part Lee-Lee May 2018 #39
She was told if she had another violation...so she got a violation...and so much passion and anger Demsrule86 May 2018 #73
No, she got a warning Lee-Lee May 2018 #74
No she didn't . He 'reported' the incident...not a warning. Demsrule86 May 2018 #80
A report is not a citation. She got a warning Lee-Lee May 2018 #82
Well, the cop is clearly in the wrong profession if he could tell the race of the person Vinca May 2018 #64
Maybe he did maybe he didn't, but she still got a violation Demsrule86 May 2018 #69
It's unknowable unless you want to go to the police department and audit their files. Vinca May 2018 #70
When they came to my door late at night once.... Honeycombe8 May 2018 #103
Which would be even slightly relevant if the cop had arrived with a drawn gun mythology May 2018 #33
No gun was drawn. Tipperary May 2018 #41
This is why I'll never live in an apartment building. Vinca May 2018 #26
Same here Rorey May 2018 #35
Then call the manager, not the fucking cops. moriah May 2018 #43
Exactly. Iggo May 2018 #48
No, they could be waking up another doctor who works the graveyard shift. Vinca May 2018 #65
I don't know what you define as "normal" Lee-Lee May 2018 #67
Apparently you all misunderstood. By calling management at 3 PM... moriah May 2018 #72
How do you know the neighbour didn't take that approach the last (X) times this happened? meadowlander May 2018 #91
Maybe this is my "ginger female" privilege speaking, but.... moriah May 2018 #94
Maybe luck of the Irish meadowlander May 2018 #95
That happens in the suburbs, too. Iggo May 2018 #47
I agree; I lived in dorms and apartments and treestar May 2018 #90
what about mowing the lawn? dawg day May 2018 #105
I don't think that applies to music treestar May 2018 #106
Anyone who has driven on a busy road marybourg May 2018 #31
She did talk about the volume of her music csziggy May 2018 #44
That really doesn't address the volume Lee-Lee May 2018 #51
have a nit discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2018 #71
Yeah my damm phone keeps swapping them Lee-Lee May 2018 #76
Another nitpick, sorry meadowlander May 2018 #93
I find it interesting that multiple people here have said the officers guns were drawn Lee-Lee May 2018 #45
Yes. Tipperary May 2018 #53
Buy some headphones Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #46
What if the neighbor MichMary May 2018 #49
And what if the neighbor had knocked on the door and explained that instead of calling the cops? Iggo May 2018 #52
Could have done that MichMary May 2018 #56
People want to call the cops for everything anymore Lee-Lee May 2018 #57
I worked nights for five years. moriah May 2018 #54
Sue them. notdarkyet May 2018 #55
I've called the cops on noisy neighbors csziggy May 2018 #58
So, here's the latest Black crime matt819 May 2018 #59
The problem here was calling the cops instead of talking to the neighbor IronLionZion May 2018 #60
This generally works if.. cannabis_flower May 2018 #107
K&R Gothmog May 2018 #61
Did she ever ask the cop what it was about? MiniMe May 2018 #62
I think it's pretty clear it was loud music Lee-Lee May 2018 #63
FIRST MISTAKE HAB911 May 2018 #66
All the comments acting like people would have called the cops just as quickly on Peter Paul & Mary. gollygee May 2018 #79
reality is that people are much less likely to blast PP&M loud enough to make the walls shake. nt TheFrenchRazor May 2018 #96
Assuming at the same volume, people would call on PP&M much less often. nt gollygee May 2018 #97
Would you actually call the police about loud music? dawg day May 2018 #101
How about Pantera? Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #98
Maybe they are Tupac fans samir.g May 2018 #84
"Well, maybe the music WAS too loud..." EffieBlack May 2018 #99
There's a lot of stuff to unpack here. cannabis_flower May 2018 #104
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