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EffieBlack

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112. People on DU constantly offend me and other POC. But when we point it out, we're told WE'RE being

Wed May 30, 2018, 11:36 PM

May 2018

divisive and that we should stop being so sensitive and try harder to get along because we all need to stick together because Trump, blah blah blah.

But the second someone says something that a small handful of white people claim to be offensive, we're told - again - that WE'RE being divisive and that we should "in the spirit of harmony" refrain from saying anything that people (i.e., white people) find offensive.

Apparently, no matter what, WE'RE the problem and WE need to go out of OUR way to make sure that WE don't cause any "divisiveness."

I call bullshit on that. If you're so worried about fighting racism and keeping a spirit of harmony, I suggest you either stop telling people of color and our allies to behave ourselves OR you should step up and push back on ANYTHING that causes offense on DU, even when it's black people being offended by the comments and behavior of white people.

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Wypipo is the new Cracker. It's divisive and clearly not in the spirit of Democratic values. [View all] elehhhhna May 2018 OP

It's a humorous way to callout everyday racism. It's not used in a cruel bettyellen May 2018 #1

You know what everyone else's motivations are? WillowTree May 2018 #29

Because I know about Black Twitter and it was a thing, less so now, but.... bettyellen May 2018 #166

Do the people on the receiving end on the name calling also laugh at the procon May 2018 #33

I've never once seen anyone "receive" wypipo as an epithet- citation please? bettyellen May 2018 #167

Post removed Post removed May 2018 #185

And who was running tons of fake blm social media and making these mes? Fucking russia. Guess why? elehhhhna May 2018 #192

No, "Wypipo" is not the slang equivalent to "nigger." EffieBlack May 2018 #198

"The swamps of black twitter" gollygee May 2018 #202

Issue is that any white person can be insulted. sharedvalues May 2018 #114

What?? You went there and used plain and unassailable logic BlueWI May 2018 #144

Because we can't have any disagreements on DU - EffieBlack May 2018 #156

Race isn't the only divisive thread topic. Try... Beartracks May 2018 #160

Are those your shoes, a Democrat's shoes? sheshe2 May 2018 #159

Smh EffieBlack May 2018 #161

Ummhmm. sheshe2 May 2018 #163

And these our are ALLIES? Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #215

I agree with your analysis Gothmog May 2018 #220

Clearly it's not an epithet people throw around. Does anyone here have context?!? Anyone angry? No. bettyellen May 2018 #168

Most people don't think what they say is cruel. lark May 2018 #213

It's literally used as a tag used when someone does or says something kinda racist- usually clueless bettyellen May 2018 #214

I've asked 5 times and never got a solid answer before now. lark May 2018 #233

I think the animal lover crap came from trolls hoping they could start a war.... bettyellen May 2018 #234

OK, I thought I had it and now it's unclear again. lark May 2018 #235

I'd say that it's usually used in less high-stakes circumstances than calling the cops- bettyellen May 2018 #236

Hmm name calling means calling a person a name gollygee May 2018 #2

it is not "just a name"-it is a name based on race flotsam May 2018 #6

What? gollygee May 2018 #8

Are you saying a double standard is permissible? wasupaloopa May 2018 #34

It isn't a double standard gollygee May 2018 #45

What "context"? whathehell May 2018 #90

You can't be this clueless EffieBlack May 2018 #103

Wanna bet! Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #217

Not far enough under the radar. NCTraveler May 2018 #195

We need folks like you to make a list wasupaloopa May 2018 #139

You could see if there's a sociology class at a local university. nt gollygee May 2018 #140

And there are derogatory names that are unacceptable here Rhiannon12866 May 2018 #11

It's acceptable precisely because it's a term, which by DEFINITION doesnt apply to ALL white people. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #12

Think how that would sound if you switched the racial slur mythology May 2018 #17

Other than a few comedians, you'd be hard-pressed to find many black people who would patiently EffieBlack May 2018 #23

You actually made my point, thanks... the n-word was created, and is still used, as a racist InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #26

Exactly what suburban chicagoans say about the n word. elehhhhna May 2018 #201

Yes it is whathehell May 2018 #84

How is the word "wypipo" "divisive?" EffieBlack May 2018 #104

You can see it just in posts on DU sharedvalues May 2018 #118

People disagreeing or even complaining about something doesn't make it divisive EffieBlack May 2018 #134

"W*****po" causes arguments on DU sharedvalues May 2018 #138

So do discussions of how to fry chicken. gollygee May 2018 #142

Wow. sharedvalues May 2018 #143

Bingo! EffieBlack May 2018 #155

Post removed Post removed May 2018 #205

You distilled the issue Skidmore May 2018 #209

BINGO! bettyellen May 2018 #165

"Causing arguments on DU?!?!" EffieBlack May 2018 #148

It hasn't changed my behavior or opinion. sheshe2 May 2018 #162

The argument that "I don't mean YOU, of course" is as old as time elehhhhna May 2018 #188

It is literally used as a tag to describe incidents of problematic behavior bettyellen May 2018 #216

Meh. Wypipo doesn't affect me at all. I'm white and still feel pretty privileged. nt Lucky Luciano May 2018 #3

Me neither. And I get why POC need a humorous shorthand to talk about experiences w the clueless bettyellen May 2018 #170

It actually isn't. Caliman73 May 2018 #4

Okay. Post a general statement about some group using an epithet. Go ahead. I'll wait. elehhhhna May 2018 #18

but wypipo isn't "a general statement about some group using an epithet" fishwax May 2018 #65

so blkpipo is now acceptable under the same bullshit explaination? elehhhhna May 2018 #193

It's not "blkpipo." It's "blahpipo." EffieBlack May 2018 #199

You are the decider then? Got it. elehhhhna May 2018 #206

Lol. Well, you asked EffieBlack May 2018 #207

This is getting really weird. betsuni May 2018 #210

The gnashing of teeth over this after 200 years of lynching, the N word, Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #223

I wonder why you're so upset. betsuni May 2018 #212

I don't see the two as equivalent, given fishwax May 2018 #218

Why would I do that? Caliman73 May 2018 #149

You are so awesome! EffieBlack May 2018 #30

Fwiw I'm white and think people who get their undies in a twist kcr May 2018 #5

Exactly! Ironically, it's like a litmus test InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #13

Right on point. Rosanne and her ilk epitimizes what wypipo means. Anyone else... brush May 2018 #80

Enlightened? You'd think so... guess not everyone. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #137

I am also white and I agree with your analysis Gothmog May 2018 #221

I see no name calling of DUers. sheshe2 May 2018 #7

God forbid some non POC might ask WHY the word is used and try to LEARN From that. Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #224

Yep. sheshe2 May 2018 #226

Your own personal experiences and perceptions are not a universal truth. procon May 2018 #228

Puhhleease... nice try!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #9

My problem with the term is that it smacks of 'ebonics' and flamin lib May 2018 #10

+1 Go Vols May 2018 #55

Sounds like something a toddler would say MichMan May 2018 #62

Yup. Crunchy Frog May 2018 #174

It's realy an in-group joke, so no, it works fine. There was never a good word to describe bettyellen May 2018 #219

Okay. It just seems to used by some as a slur (to deserving flamin lib May 2018 #230

You're most welcome. And I'd like to point out it was only brought here by way of people angry bettyellen May 2018 #231

Wypipo doesn't affect me in the slightest. Codeine May 2018 #14

I don't care vercetti2021 May 2018 #15

Cracker is not a term I heard in Louisiana GulfCoast66 May 2018 #16

Atlanta Black Crackers 1919-1949 Marcuse May 2018 #36

Who knew! GulfCoast66 May 2018 #39

Nm Marcuse May 2018 #72

Oh, come on. Not THIS shit again! EffieBlack May 2018 #19

Right? I feel like posting this over and over again ismnotwasm May 2018 #20

Such a great sketch!! Still applicable! Docreed2003 May 2018 #42

Why effie you know we been sufferin with this wypipo for 3-4 weeks now. How long we have to suffer? grantcart May 2018 #22

How long, I feel... sheshe2 May 2018 #28

+1 fleabiscuit May 2018 #58

it is not a slur it is a Portmanteau with a slightly humorous twist grantcart May 2018 #21

A Portmanteau with a slightly humorous twist! Help! GulfCoast66 May 2018 #40

Well the Spanish Inquisition isn't coming to help you out. grantcart May 2018 #64

First you get Python in my head... GulfCoast66 May 2018 #69

Who would expect it, after all? (nt) mr_lebowski May 2018 #145

Lol.. whathehell May 2018 #194

I agree with OP. At first, I didn't object, philly_bob May 2018 #24

"You don't want to lead with WYPIPO in the 2018 elections." sheshe2 May 2018 #37

I was unclear. philly_bob May 2018 #53

Well I guess you were very unclear. sheshe2 May 2018 #61

W**** are Trumpers: then say trumpers. sharedvalues May 2018 #74

I believe that to be quite logical G_j May 2018 #135

+1 !! gollygee May 2018 #54

;) sheshe2 May 2018 #73

Forgive me, but if I may ... mr_lebowski May 2018 #154

Okay sheshe2 May 2018 #173

Obviously, we can't have a civil discussion no matter much I assured you I'm completely on your side mr_lebowski May 2018 #175

"Majority of white people vote Republican"????!! sharedvalues May 2018 #75

It isn't an anti-Democratic sentiment gollygee May 2018 #78

"Majority of white people vote Republican" means the term is an insult sharedvalues May 2018 #83

We don't have to fight on race gollygee May 2018 #85

I am with you sharedvalues May 2018 #89

We don't own the term gollygee May 2018 #91

No, we do own our words, and we do get to urge constructiveness sharedvalues May 2018 #93

DU will hopefully be at least somewhat friendly to people of color gollygee May 2018 #96

It's about EVERYONE. Black and white. sharedvalues May 2018 #99

White people need to stop centering white people in every situation gollygee May 2018 #107

People on DU constantly offend me and other POC. But when we point it out, we're told WE'RE being EffieBlack May 2018 #112

Let's go kneel together at an anthem - shoulder to shoulder sharedvalues May 2018 #116

Telling people of color how and when they are allowed to protest isn't an improvement upon gollygee May 2018 #117

No, offering to join a protest sharedvalues May 2018 #119

The term "wypipo" is a protest against racism gollygee May 2018 #120

That's a distortion. "W*****po" is divisive sharedvalues May 2018 #123

"Wypipo" is only divisive in the opinion of a small number of people gollygee May 2018 #129

Thanks, but you and I meeting up to kneel at a sporting event is not what I'm going for. I have EffieBlack May 2018 #130

Because it's a way for Dems to show unity sharedvalues May 2018 #133

The only way for us to show unity is for you to show up in my town & hook up with me for a kneel-in? EffieBlack May 2018 #136

Dems need to unify. sharedvalues May 2018 #141

Also gollygee May 2018 #81

Lets fight racism AND embrace the Dem "big tent" sharedvalues May 2018 #95

White people who are not racist gollygee May 2018 #97

This. Iggo May 2018 #151

I'm white and I'm still going to vote Democratic like I always do ck4829 May 2018 #184

Hells yes. bettyellen May 2018 #169

When BBQ Becky... tonedevil May 2018 #25

Chrissakes, this again. wellst0nev0ter May 2018 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author Duppers May 2018 #71

Your exasperation is duly noted.. whathehell May 2018 #200

At first it's a Twitter abbreviation of "white people" wellst0nev0ter May 2018 #225

Last week it was posted that if you don't like wypipo OP's don't reply. wasupaloopa May 2018 #31

Is it shorthand for something? guillaumeb May 2018 #32

It's a race based pejorative used by bigots Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #35

So you are calling all DUers bigots that post about "wypipo'? sheshe2 May 2018 #38

After reading the comments here and elsewhere, guillaumeb May 2018 #41

Thank you. sheshe2 May 2018 #43

My opinion. guillaumeb May 2018 #44

I have seen it's use in places other than this. Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #46

I understand your concern, guillaumeb May 2018 #49

It is designed as a racial epithet Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #52

That's been admitted by posters above - it's an insult sharedvalues May 2018 #106

No. sheshe2 May 2018 #50

there is nothing pejorative about it and it isn't race based grantcart May 2018 #68

It's literally a somewhat phonetic spelling of 'white people". How is that NOT race based? N/t TCJ70 May 2018 #70

Because it isn't applied to all wite people grantcart May 2018 #158

Imagine, if you will, a word that is only used to describe people of one non-white skin color... TCJ70 May 2018 #182

Ugh. No, it isn't. n/t pnwmom May 2018 #110

Nope, it's a term used to describe a particular type of bigot. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #147

It's a race based pejorative. sharedvalues May 2018 #76

One thing is for sure: wypipo are fucking sensitive. nt Dr Hobbitstein May 2018 #47

The inevitable tautology. Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #48

Poor oppressed wypipo. nt Dr Hobbitstein May 2018 #51

Lol....nt sheshe2 May 2018 #94

Above someone said that only Republicans are w****po sharedvalues May 2018 #77

Yes, those poor wypipo's feelings could be hurt. The horror. nt Dr Hobbitstein May 2018 #100

Lol, not all of us. Being upset about wypipo is so foreign to me I feel like I'm from another planet njhoneybadger May 2018 #153

Remember the "wrecka stow" scene in Under the Cherry Moon? LuvLoogie May 2018 #56

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA MariaCSR May 2018 #57

PERFECT!!! EffieBlack May 2018 #59

Because of that movie I haven't been able to pronounce "record store" correctly for decades. betsuni May 2018 #180

I don't have a problem with that word, and I'm a "Wyperson". Its more of a colloquialism.... George II May 2018 #60

Awreckastow? EffieBlack May 2018 #66

Touche! George II May 2018 #67

But many say it's meant for white Republicans sharedvalues May 2018 #79

It's for any white people who are racist - often racist white people who think they aren't racist gollygee May 2018 #82

So you admit it's an insult sharedvalues May 2018 #86

It's an insult against racist white people gollygee May 2018 #87

Non racists think it applies to them sharedvalues May 2018 #92

Racist white people should be insulted gollygee May 2018 #98

Problem is NON racist, Dem white people are insulted sharedvalues May 2018 #105

They don't need to be insulted. They need to work on that if they are. nt gollygee May 2018 #108

They ARE insulted sharedvalues May 2018 #111

Then let's work together to fight racism gollygee May 2018 #113

But DU people feel insulted. Otherwise +1 sharedvalues May 2018 #115

It's a race base slur tacked onto an important national issue. procon May 2018 #229

Well. I am white. sheshe2 May 2018 #102

If some do take offense we should take it seriously. sharedvalues May 2018 #109

What do we do when... sheshe2 May 2018 #121

Don't commingle them. We should do BOTH! sharedvalues May 2018 #124

White people who would choose not to fight racism over the term "wypipo" gollygee May 2018 #127

"sharedvalues 124. Don't commingle them. We should do BOTH!" sheshe2 May 2018 #150

How far should we go with that? missingthebigdog May 2018 #176

Bottom line EffieBlack May 2018 #122

They take offense because it's an insult sharedvalues May 2018 #126

An insult against racists. nt gollygee May 2018 #128

An insult that DUers take offense to. sharedvalues May 2018 #131

Who is "we?" gollygee May 2018 #132

I find being called a race-baiter an insult. And that's directed specifically to me EffieBlack May 2018 #146

It sounds like toddler speak to me. Tipperary May 2018 #177

This will only lead to more threads using the word oberliner May 2018 #63

... sheshe2 May 2018 #125

Cry me a river tulipsandroses May 2018 #88

This. sheshe2 May 2018 #152

Oh, bullshit. Much ado about nothing. kwassa May 2018 #101

Cracka, PLEEZE!!! bdtrppr6 May 2018 #157

Here ya go Wypipo Explained tulipsandroses May 2018 #164

Excellent! EffieBlack May 2018 #171

The WYPIPO issue requires admins to take a stand. philly_bob May 2018 #172

What do we call other sub groups of ethnicities that's okay here? elehhhhna May 2018 #181

Can we write/say JustAnotherGen May 2018 #178

Is this still going on? HopeAgain May 2018 #179

It's fairly obnoxious. nt LexVegas May 2018 #183

I'm trying to feel divided or insulted or oppressed by its usage, but I just can't get there. LanternWaste May 2018 #186

The ones that scream "divisive!" are the ones that most need to hear it Tarc May 2018 #187

Got it. So what color/racebased name are we using here for black people like Ben Carson and Sheriff elehhhhna May 2018 #190

wipipo has only been around for weeks or months and its causing so much psychic pain... marble falls May 2018 #196

Are you fucking kidding me? elehhhhna May 2018 #197

Are you fucking kidding me? marble falls May 2018 #204

Not sure what that really has to do with what we're talking about Tarc May 2018 #208

Deep. NCTraveler May 2018 #189

Yawn )))) Sunsky May 2018 #191

Suffice to say, is one of the words the Knights of Ni cannot hear. betsuni May 2018 #203

Can't we all agree? kentuck May 2018 #211

Nope. Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #222

This is what we're arguing about now? easttexaslefty May 2018 #227

I have no problem with it. GumboYaYa May 2018 #232

Just so everyone understands it's use... fleabiscuit May 2018 #237