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105. yeah because we don't dare call out straight privilege

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Thu May 31, 2018, 11:59 AM

May 2018

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Wypipo, brace yourselves, it's going to get worse before it gets better. [View all] NCTraveler May 2018 OP

K&R. One can be white without being a wypipo IMHO ck4829 May 2018 #1

One can be black and not a nword. Rascists been claiming that excuse for years. elehhhhna May 2018 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author betsuni May 2018 #14

Not the same thing, not the same ballpark, not even the same fucking sport. nt Dr Hobbitstein May 2018 #31

Yup yup... sounds like something wypipo say. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #56

Reasonable African-Americans, Too Roy Rolling May 2018 #83

Thought exercise: moriah May 2018 #38

There's always a few "good ones", right? TCJ70 May 2018 #84

add to that, it is not exactly effective ollie10 May 2018 #96

if you mercuryblues May 2018 #180

"Wypipo" describes specific attitudes and behaviors. Please tell us exactly what "nigger" describes. EffieBlack May 2018 #88

I'll, if you really want me to share, explain the way my NotRacist(tm) father.... moriah May 2018 #101

You totally get it. EffieBlack May 2018 #110

No kidding..That's what all DUers know and abide by here.. whathehell Jun 2018 #204

Tools of a divisive agenda or trolls, bullies, not sure. elehhhhna Jun 2018 #209

Very possible whathehell Jun 2018 #214

Doesn't the word "racist" describe a person like that? oberliner May 2018 #22

Racist people almost always claim they aren't racist gollygee May 2018 #28

No, it doesn't EffieBlack May 2018 #91

Effie, you know they'd rather have you shout "Micro-agreesor!" because it's .... bettyellen May 2018 #126

They hate discussion of microaggressions just as much as the word "wypipo" gollygee May 2018 #151

And when you make a joke about it, as in tweeting about Wypipo, that's not mild enough either. bettyellen May 2018 #168

Shutting down discussion of racism that might make lead to discomfort is always the end game. nt gollygee May 2018 #169

The word isn't the issue. The goal is to circle the wagons around fellow white people EffieBlack May 2018 #182

Read the Op title and explain whether or not it's provocative of civil discussion. elehhhhna Jun 2018 #210

It's provoke numerous civil discussions EffieBlack Jun 2018 #215

. gollygee Jun 2018 #221

Think how stupid it would sound if I used any other slur mythology May 2018 #23

My husband is English and I live in England now iwillalwayswonderwhy May 2018 #142

Exactly.. whathehell Jun 2018 #205

Yes, that would be stupid. Almost as stupid as that analogy. EffieBlack Jun 2018 #246

Boom! EffieBlack May 2018 #35

who is this wypopo azureblue May 2018 #43

Could be, could be, could be (though not necessarily) and no. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #60

Popo? JustAnotherGen May 2018 #77

PS - if you are IN Italy - it depends JustAnotherGen May 2018 #80

If you punch Richard Spencer in the face at Trump's inauguration, you are one as well. Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #45

If you punch Richard Spencer in the face you're a goddamned Dr Hobbitstein May 2018 #58

Well done. or as we used to say RIGHT ON Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #127

That is the exact same argument used by many racists. PufPuf23 Jun 2018 #222

Death throes Tavarious Jackson May 2018 #2

At this point, the word is like the CSA flag, to me; Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #3

Yeah, just like the CSA flag. NCTraveler May 2018 #5

If I see someone display it, Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #11

I feel that same way about people gollygee May 2018 #17

I guess I understand. NCTraveler May 2018 #20

The inevitable tautology Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #24

"the word is like the CSA flag, to me" NCTraveler May 2018 #136

Loss of privilege is often a hard thing. Cuthbert Allgood May 2018 #19

Um, one "hard thing" it doesn't include is tolerating race-based slurs whathehell Jun 2018 #208

You really identify with that term, don't you? Dr Hobbitstein May 2018 #34

The inevitable tautology Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #37

Of course, you could come to the realization that the word has nothing to do with you. Dr Hobbitstein May 2018 #49

I understand your childish Catch-22 Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #52

I'm not the one trying to compare a taunt aimed a white racists Dr Hobbitstein May 2018 #65

Neither am I so I understand your frustration Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #70

Oh? Is that not what this says? Dr Hobbitstein May 2018 #72

No. Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #73

. Dr Hobbitstein May 2018 #75

Why must one slur be completely analogous to another to qualify as offensive? whathehell May 2018 #111

I'm not the one who was arguing it was. Dr Hobbitstein May 2018 #123

If I was a slot machine you would win the jackpot. Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #128

Um, and does that mean that if someone calls black men "thugs" whathehell May 2018 #138

NOT the same fucking thing, AT ALL. Dr Hobbitstein May 2018 #148

You get to determine whether someone else's concern is valid? Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #156

Don't know of what you speak... Dr Hobbitstein May 2018 #170

Really? whathehell Jun 2018 #194

Are white people historically oppressed by black people? Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2018 #196

Should white people be made to "pay" for an unjust system they whathehell Jun 2018 #199

Post removed Post removed Jun 2018 #200

Oh come on, Doc. Not a single Wypipo living today ever had slaves EffieBlack Jun 2018 #201

Ha! Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2018 #202

Calling me a "fucking wypipo" whathehell Jun 2018 #203

You benefit from it. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2018 #247

Less than you I expect, but that aside, what's the answer? whathehell Jun 2018 #248

Because the Rebel Rag represented racist, race based way of life and wypipo represent a racist, ... marble falls May 2018 #39

The fact that injustice #1 is worse than injustice #2 does whathehell Jun 2018 #198

If you equate a PoC's use of wipipo with the white supremist use of the Rebel Rag you are .... marble falls May 2018 #74

I did not equate them; I said they are both signalling devices. Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #79

The same way an M-80 and a pib are fireworks... marble falls May 2018 #82

All ethnic/racial,/religious slurs are not equal -- That doesn't mean whathehell Jun 2018 #206

Let's be honest here: On good 10 degree scale of offensiveness, the "n" word is an 11, and wypipo... marble falls Jun 2018 #207

What part of "We are not comparing" do you still not understand? whathehell Jun 2018 #213

Who is "we?" EffieBlack Jun 2018 #217

First: calm down or we can't talk. Second:""punish" them with a disrespectful nickname" ..... marble falls Jun 2018 #218

Lol..I'd suggest it''s you who needs to "calm down". whathehell Jun 2018 #219

Equality is not gained by being shitty to each other. elehhhhna May 2018 #4

Equality is gained through protest gollygee May 2018 #6

Yeah I remember vividly reading about MLK calling white people juvenile names dsc May 2018 #8

Different people protest in different ways gollygee May 2018 #9

I didn't say he was dsc May 2018 #12

Not everyone who protests has to protest in the style of MLK. nt gollygee May 2018 #13

and not everyone will be as successful as he was dsc May 2018 #16

Strawman gollygee May 2018 #18

Because Dr. King was the only successful protester? EffieBlack May 2018 #93

The civil rights movement... NCTraveler May 2018 #25

really I am sure you can show me a citation of MLK calling someone a juvenile name dsc May 2018 #29

I never made a point of contention to your topic line. NCTraveler May 2018 #40

This is what you wrote dsc May 2018 #78

Exactly. Tipperary May 2018 #41

Yes, let's all be like Martin Luther King EffieBlack May 2018 #36

To many whites he is all that's known about the movement. NCTraveler May 2018 #42

Dr. King had a wicked sense of humor EffieBlack May 2018 #61

Can you imagine how devastated those upset by the term wypipo would be.... NCTraveler May 2018 #94

If "wypipo" is enough to make people threaten to walk away from the movement EffieBlack May 2018 #97

again if you can find a citation of him engaging in juvenile name calling I will with draw my post dsc May 2018 #85

My family was close to him and his family EffieBlack May 2018 #90

yeah because we don't dare call out straight privilege dsc May 2018 #105

I know, right! This is pissing me off, now they are using MLK USING USING Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #130

This latest thing on du is ugly. Tipperary May 2018 #92

Yes. Because if it weren't for the big Wypipo controversy, Democrats would agree about everything EffieBlack May 2018 #95

Of course, dont you know it is all your fault! Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #131

Yes, but, apart from the question of what needs to be "protested" on DU whathehell Jun 2018 #216

It sure can be gollygee Jun 2018 #220

Not on DU it can't.. whathehell Jun 2018 #223

It obviously can. nt gollygee Jun 2018 #224

Really?.. How so? whathehell Jun 2018 #225

People are using the word at DU to express disapproval. If it is happening, it can happen. nt gollygee Jun 2018 #226

People are questioning and debating it's use right now whathehell Jun 2018 #227

It's happening gollygee Jun 2018 #228

Nah..Trying to happen is not "happening" whathehell Jun 2018 #229

The protest is wider than DU gollygee Jun 2018 #230

Race-based name-calling on DU is what we're discussing HERE. whathehell Jun 2018 #231

This place does not exist independently of the rest of the world. nt gollygee Jun 2018 #232

The "rest of the world" includes Fox News and Trump too whathehell Jun 2018 #235

DU is for Democrats gollygee Jun 2018 #237

Yeah, but guess what?. Democrats are White People too! whathehell Jun 2018 #240

This argument has been had about 15 times so far gollygee Jun 2018 #241

What argument? whathehell Jun 2018 #242

About whether African Americans saying "wypipo" is going to drive away Democratic votes. nt gollygee Jun 2018 #243

Um, didn't see those, and while I'm not sure there's a direct link, whathehell Jun 2018 #245

If it's so humorous to use a racial slur, did you laugh at Roseanne Barr's 'joke'? procon Jun 2018 #233

I'm not worked up about the Roseanne Barr thing gollygee Jun 2018 #236

That's a very narrow framing. procon Jun 2018 #244

Some of the oppressors feelings might be hurt along the way. NCTraveler May 2018 #10

Show me in the op where I said or insinuated it would be. NCTraveler May 2018 #21

Some people seem to enjoy it, unfortunately. Tipperary May 2018 #32

Tell that to wypipo!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #62

Actually, it takes a whole lot more than that. Read up on MLK and Ghandi. (nt) ehrnst May 2018 #69

If I have learned ONE thing on the internet the last 12 yrs or so it is Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #133

I am white and get the red out May 2018 #15

Sadly, you aren't ready for what is coming, either. PubliusEnigma May 2018 #26

My children's children Mr.Bill May 2018 #89

I'm not only ready. NCTraveler May 2018 #144

Making generalizations that include standingtall May 2018 #27

I don't think the OP has much use for or interest in "white allies" BannonsLiver May 2018 #46

Didn't "White Allies" win the tournament in 2017? Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #48

No that was 2016 BannonsLiver May 2018 #50

1945 elehhhhna Jun 2018 #211

I'm a "white ally" and that word doesn't offend me. I am amused by anyone who is. Take that ... marble falls May 2018 #47

The wypipo does not offend me either standingtall May 2018 #54

Good points. There is no doubt: I depend on my white privilege without even knowing it .... marble falls May 2018 #66

I'm a one of those "white allies" you refer to. Dr Hobbitstein May 2018 #57

When did I say the term wypipo standingtall May 2018 #59

Wypipo is not all white people. Dr Hobbitstein May 2018 #64

If wypipo means white privilege than standingtall May 2018 #67

It's. Not. About. You. nt Dr Hobbitstein May 2018 #68

My grandfather had a very soft voice EffieBlack May 2018 #154

Not an effective strategy, how? EffieBlack May 2018 #98

Read the series of my post I had above this standingtall May 2018 #100

Reminds me of folks who said we had to give them a reason to do something. Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #134

Ignorance. safeinOhio May 2018 #30

This is absolutely brilliant and beautiful - and freshly stated EffieBlack May 2018 #33

K&R betsuni May 2018 #44

Lol. cwydro May 2018 #51

Jessie Jackson, Elijah Cummings, and Obama would cringe procon May 2018 #53

I'm OK with the change jmbar2 May 2018 #55

Wypipo... hlthe2b May 2018 #63

A result of wypipo murdering good white people ck4829 May 2018 #71

Good post. Tipperary May 2018 #81

These people weren't "wypipo"- but some of them (not all) were murdered by wypipo EffieBlack May 2018 #112

EffieBlack, you are among my favorite DU posters. hlthe2b May 2018 #115

Demographics won't save us if we alienate people we should otherwise connect with BeyondGeography May 2018 #76

K&R ! stonecutter357 May 2018 #86

But what will our corporate overlords say? jalan48 May 2018 #87

they're laughing their asses off - another divisive topic to keep us distracted - nt Locrian May 2018 #102

That's about it. Let's watch them squabble among themselves. jalan48 May 2018 #103

maybe we can come up with a name for the 'corporate overlords' that we could *all* get behind? - nt Locrian May 2018 #109

I think some are perfectly happy as long as the overlords are "diverse". jalan48 May 2018 #189

lol - nailed it! - n/t Locrian Jun 2018 #193

++ heaven05 May 2018 #99

The white right have become what they have been trying to pin on minorities for decades.... Thomas Hurt May 2018 #104

booooooooooooring. Inkfreak May 2018 #106

If "wypipo" are only white racists, why address them here on DU? whathehell May 2018 #107

Certain folks here consider themselves better than others. Tipperary May 2018 #113

Then THEY should be called out, not the entire white DU membership whathehell May 2018 #116

Thank you. Tipperary May 2018 #163

You're quite welcome. whathehell Jun 2018 #195

What an absolutely HORRIBLE thing to say about some fantastic liberals who post here Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #135

Hit a nerve there eh? Tipperary May 2018 #164

Nerve? The only NERVE around here is YOU implying what you just implied ON TOP Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #166

Good point. DavidDvorkin May 2018 #114

Thanks you. n/t whathehell May 2018 #117

What's funny is melman May 2018 #158

Exactly. And those who object are then deemed to be 'wypipo'. Chemisse May 2018 #181

Yes, I think you're right.. whathehell May 2018 #192

That is the question of the year. elehhhhna Jun 2018 #212

It's a better term than 'cracker'. This Irishman thinks it's kind of funny The Mouth May 2018 #108

Yeah, & I could think of some anti-black and anti- hispanic slurs that whathehell May 2018 #118

Meh. I think the term is counter productive, don't get me wrong The Mouth May 2018 #120

Meh, I think so too.. whathehell May 2018 #129

75% of Americans are white. Sophia4 May 2018 #119

Nobody is fighting allies. Dr Hobbitstein May 2018 #124

About 13 % of the population. Sophia4 May 2018 #125

The community we are fighting for is more along the lines of 40% of the population. NCTraveler May 2018 #143

https://www.infoplease.com/us/race-population/population-united-states-race-and-hispaniclatino-origi Sophia4 May 2018 #149

Did you really write "African-Americans need to pull a lot more weight if they are to win?" EffieBlack May 2018 #145

. Dr Hobbitstein May 2018 #153

Delete your post. Dr Hobbitstein May 2018 #152

The real world is disgusting, but no one can delete the truth. Sophia4 May 2018 #159

Wow. Your version of history is some whitewashed wypipo bullshit. Dr Hobbitstein May 2018 #165

And Lyndon Johnson didn't sign the Civil Rights Act because Dr. King prayed with white people EffieBlack May 2018 #171

Yes, they all prayed and lived happily ever after in a world where the black man was nice and polite Dr Hobbitstein May 2018 #188

Where's a great deal of space between being nice or insulting. procon Jun 2018 #239

I agree that most DUers are 'on board' and should not be presumed to be enemies. Chemisse May 2018 #183

Thank you!!! EffieBlack May 2018 #186

What does this mean: tonedevil May 2018 #184

They really, really have to get out and vote. Sophia4 May 2018 #187

I just read someone WARNING you that you better not insult your allies Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #137

In which case, they would not be allies, and never were in the first place... nt Dr Hobbitstein May 2018 #150

Absolutely! Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #161

There is a difference between "not upsetting" people and downright insulting your Sophia4 May 2018 #185

Please read my post #159. Sophia4 May 2018 #160

The answers to those questions are insignificant. NCTraveler May 2018 #141

You actually had someone say that black folk best mind their-selves if they Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #162

Outstanding post! brer cat May 2018 #121

Right on! MariaCSR May 2018 #122

I hate WYPIPO philly_bob May 2018 #132

"Is that the banner the Democratic Party wants to carry into the 2018 elections? " NCTraveler May 2018 #139

Who says it is divisive, I am a white liberal and I dont mind the word AT ALL Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #140

Because God forbid any divisive topic appear on DU. EffieBlack May 2018 #146

Everything is not centered on the comfort of white people gollygee May 2018 #157

DU is the only place I've heard this slur used fescuerescue May 2018 #191

The change will not exclude liberal whites DBoon May 2018 #147

And therein lies the problem EffieBlack May 2018 #155

It is interesting to look at South Africa for insights Tom Rinaldo Jun 2018 #197

South Africa is racially tearing itself apart yet again, this time from the other side of the Exotica Jun 2018 #234

Is it a coincidence those who support NON democrats also have the hardest time with this word? Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #167

The Democratic Party: WYPIPO not welcome philly_bob May 2018 #172

LOL oh my god, YOU GUYS made up the term? LOL Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #173

There are people in another thread proudly owning the label... TCJ70 May 2018 #174

I wish non POC would ...never mind, cant say it here, privilege and all Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #175

Post removed Post removed May 2018 #177

It should work well in reinforcing the base of both parties in what they believe The Mouth May 2018 #179

sooo am i a wypipoe first or a wywoman first? samnsara May 2018 #176

I agree the changes you speak of are happening Tom Rinaldo May 2018 #178

yes. I have a feeling that a few more ethnic slurs will be invented fescuerescue May 2018 #190

We got a Wypipo in the WH, we got a Wypipo majority supreme court LeftInTX Jun 2018 #238