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Baitball Blogger

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Fri Jun 1, 2018, 04:02 PM Jun 2018

Throwing my hat in regarding the Wypipo controversy. [View all]

The following opinion was originally posted on Effie Black's thread and DQ suggested I repost it as its own thread.


I haven't been following these wypipo threads too closely because of time constraints, so I may be going on a tangent. But, from my personal view:

For forty of my <mumble> years, I was very much entrenched in mostly white environments and I can definitely see why minorities would group Caucasians into a wypipo category. Seriously people. Do you think we would be where we are today if minorities felt that they could count on a vocal number of white people who understand their problems and will have their backs? Nothing in what I have seen in college and out of college suggests that Anglo-leaning cultures understand or care about offering a helping hand. No matter who they are. Well, except for a large percentage of those who are Liberals, but certainly not all.

The response from most of the people in Caucasian groups is silence or they side with the white people who respond to us with admonishment for voicing our opinions. "Who are you?" That's the kind of reaction we get when we stand up and point out facts that question their decisions or decision making process. All the "decent" white people look at us like we're the cautionary tale. This is what will happen to them too, if they agree with us in public venues. So they remain silent and their silence legitimizes whatever aggressive behavior is directed at us.

Jesus. I have had a woman, who I thought was a friend, look uncomfortable when she saw me coming her way on a sidewalk. She was with two other white women and she avoided looking in my direction. I didn't even hear a friendly greeting as they walked passed by. I couldn't have been more than twenty feet away, since I gave them space because I was walking the dog. But this was in an open area where there was nothing taller than grass to block the view. Compare that when the next time we crossed paths when she was alone. Open smile and ready to talk, but for me, it was too late.

For me, all these little collisions have left a large scar where all the nerves and feelings have been stripped. You just can't be subjected to this kind of behavior and leave unchanged. So, in sum, "wypipo" definitely expresses a perspective that is valid. We are being excluded out of certain social circles, especially the circles where decisions are being made that affect our personal lives. Our worlds are split or divided where they count the most. Division exists, it's a reality and it didn't happen by our choice. So, why are you blaming black Americans for finding a term that communicates what they see? Asking them to be silent because it makes white people uncomfortable is just as bad as shutting down minority opinions before an election because you don't want to turn off the racist Southern Democratic votes. Yes, that happened.

I agree with those who say that it will get worse, before it gets better. How can I put it? If you are opposed to the term, maybe you don't see the problem from a minority point of view?

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I agree, even working in a very liberal leaning industry in NYC a few of my coworkers over the years bettyellen Jun 2018 #1
Thank you bettyellen. Baitball Blogger Jun 2018 #2
I think a lot of people aren't noticing the self segregation they're part of, more so with men. bettyellen Jun 2018 #3
I couldn't have said it better. Baitball Blogger Jun 2018 #6
You already have w this OP, BB. People need to reflect and realize that reflection is not a punish- bettyellen Jun 2018 #9
You get it. Baitball Blogger Jun 2018 #17
K&R: Thank you, Baitball Blogger sheshe2 Jun 2018 #4
well said. WhiteTara Jun 2018 #5
What is the point of starting another thread on this? oberliner Jun 2018 #7
Some people might find it interesting. I did. DanTex Jun 2018 #12
As did I happy feet Jun 2018 #22
I am glad you asked that, I wont interact with certain people here myself. Eliot Rosewater Jun 2018 #29
Yeah, I've experienced that with someone *ahem* AllyCat Jun 2018 #43
It appears to be a hot issue and someone may have seen something that they Baitball Blogger Jun 2018 #14
Membership and reading threads is voluntary Starry Messenger Jun 2018 #20
+++ sheshe2 Jun 2018 #35
I liked BB's response... sheshe2 Jun 2018 #34
what is the point DonCoquixote Jun 2018 #41
Right? AllyCat Jun 2018 #44
I have read white people can't see the minority view treestar Jun 2018 #8
POC find it very useful. Sometimes humor is the only sane choice. bettyellen Jun 2018 #10
THANK YOU Eliot Rosewater Jun 2018 #30
I don't want to denigrate anyone treestar Jun 2018 #67
I'm sorry but if you're asking POC (or women) to fall in line to please the GOP I'm going to get bettyellen Jun 2018 #68
How does using a race based word help create the changes you want? procon Jun 2018 #11
We are coming from two sides of an issue and there won't be a meeting in the Baitball Blogger Jun 2018 #15
This, and Skidmore Jun 2018 #24
so it's shock therapy for our benefit? elehhhhna Jun 2018 #49
Please show me where that was said here to a specific DUer? sheshe2 Jun 2018 #55
OK, but what then is goal of calling other people a race based insult? procon Jun 2018 #27
I don't see white Americans showing any interest in this issue. Baitball Blogger Jun 2018 #32
You're fighting alone, if you look around, you have lots of company. procon Jun 2018 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2018 #28
should have acknowledgement heaven05 Jun 2018 #26
+++ sheshe2 Jun 2018 #39
If a white person can't say "Wypipo" fast three times and not laugh... hunter Jun 2018 #13
LOL. Baitball Blogger Jun 2018 #16
You seem to be saying that personal anecdotes justify BaileyBill Jun 2018 #18
title should be heaven05 Jun 2018 #31
My experiences are real to me. Calling them anecdotes is an attempt to diffuse Baitball Blogger Jun 2018 #33
You all realize this is only a thing on DU, right? Nt B2G Jun 2018 #19
And I like it! hunter Jun 2018 #21
I've had a few racists on FB get mad when I use the term. AllyCat Jun 2018 #45
No it isn't gollygee Jun 2018 #54
Have you never... tonedevil Jun 2018 #57
Untrue. (nt) Heidi Jun 2018 #64
+++ well said heaven05 Jun 2018 #23
++ There's a lot less hatred behind Wypipo or even Honkie, than what a lot of Wypipo have Hoyt Jun 2018 #25
Honkie, every time I see that word I laugh, because I hear Gorge Jefferson saying it. StTimofEdenRoc Jun 2018 #38
If you have something to say, and want it to be heard, why would you use this term? StTimofEdenRoc Jun 2018 #36
Wypipo are whites who fail to live up to human expectation AllyCat Jun 2018 #46
#notallwypipo elehhhhna Jun 2018 #51
If a POC on a discussion board brings up race and your response is "Oh, not THIS shit again!" EffieBlack Jun 2018 #52
That whole human expectation thing AllyCat Jun 2018 #56
If someone ignores you... tonedevil Jun 2018 #59
In the example, I would have greeted them warmly. StTimofEdenRoc Jun 2018 #60
For me that speaks to... tonedevil Jun 2018 #70
"my daughter calls, an assault hello" I like that term StTimofEdenRoc Jun 2018 #71
It is really satisfying... tonedevil Jun 2018 #72
Sometimes people don't say "hello" because they're near-sighted FakeNoose Jun 2018 #37
error_overflow Sailor65x1 Jun 2018 #40
Perfect code. Wrong output LearnedHand Jun 2018 #53
Dude, really? Sailor65x1 Jun 2018 #63
It is funny LearnedHand Jun 2018 #65
Well said B.B. AllyCat Jun 2018 #42
Thank-you for sharing. Chemisse Jun 2018 #48
I have a story...that may take some people out PatrickforO Jun 2018 #50
I feel your anguish, PfO LearnedHand Jun 2018 #66
Understanding flows two ways TCJ70 Jun 2018 #58
Every race-based insult has a community where it accepted and often encouraged. egduj Jun 2018 #61
You're the first user of the word to at least acknowledge that is a race based insult... TCJ70 Jun 2018 #62
K&R Solly Mack Jun 2018 #69
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