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BannonsLiver

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92. Who is we exactly?

Fri Jun 1, 2018, 07:23 PM

Jun 2018

Just looking at 2007-2016 the Obamas were slurred for a decade. While that was going on we had Trayvon Martin, Tamir Rice and Dylan Roofs murder spree, and a whole lot of other really nasty stuff that I’ve forgotten about because their was so GD much of it.

Beyond the euphoria I experienced that night in Nov. 2008 there was never a point during those years that it seemed to me like things were getting better with regard to how we deal with race. On the contrary, what I saw, and I think many others saw, was a whole lot of bigoted, scared white folks who lost their shit over his election and as the years ticked by became increasingly emboldened to act out.

That said, I do concede that Trump played a large role in amplifying that particularly in 2015 and 2016, to present, but I think the sentiment was there all along during a period when it might have seemed like things were improving.

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White Fragility Digest #14: 1 June 2018 [View all] MrScorpio Jun 2018 OP

White Louisiana Man Mows Down Black Pedestrian, Killing Him -- Then Brags About It on Social Media MrScorpio Jun 2018 #1

Tim Wise Gets Rousing Applause For Calling Out White Folks on Their Lack of Empathy for Black Lives MrScorpio Jun 2018 #2

'You know why the lady called the police': Black people face 911 calls for innocuous acts MrScorpio Jun 2018 #3

Look at all the things he has to do that no white people have to do.... Iggo Jun 2018 #42

Shopping while black: An old problem under new scrutiny MrScorpio Jun 2018 #4

'Other than her mouth, there are no weapons': MrScorpio Jun 2018 #5

The Lies You Tell: Trump's BS About The Black Community And His Failed Policies MrScorpio Jun 2018 #6

A Majority of Whites Aren't Convinced They Benefit from 'Societal Advantages' Different from Blacks MrScorpio Jun 2018 #7

How any cashier can be so dumb, as well as racist?(first story) Maeve Jun 2018 #8

I wonder if she berates white women using the card as well Blue_Adept Jun 2018 #12

Thank you for documenting these ugly acts of racism Generic Other Jun 2018 #9

I apologize for sounding flippant when I asked what happened with your Wednesday post.... marble falls Jun 2018 #10

I concur - these editions are very important for our community. salin Jun 2018 #19

Kick, kick, kick! Heidi Jun 2018 #11

This could also be viewed as a story of a white person going out of her way to help oberliner Jun 2018 #13

Are you serious? MrScorpio Jun 2018 #14

How do we know about what happened to that black person? oberliner Jun 2018 #16

"What about the white people?" MrScorpio Jun 2018 #35

Your heading is "White Fragility Digest" - presumably you are trying to reach white people oberliner Jun 2018 #45

"There is a positive example to point to - why not do so." They did. That's why you know about it EffieBlack Jun 2018 #55

No, they didn't oberliner Jun 2018 #56

Impatience often compels us to demand an answer prior LanternWaste Jun 2018 #57

Thank you for the response oberliner Jun 2018 #60

They didn't? EffieBlack Jun 2018 #58

They didn't oberliner Jun 2018 #71

You're being ridiculous EffieBlack Jun 2018 #75

If the intent is to drive a narrative, it is convenient to ignore that a White Blue_true Jun 2018 #17

The actions of Amanda and her mother are literally the opposite of "white fragility" oberliner Jun 2018 #20

The point that out specifically in posts. Blue_true Jun 2018 #22

Only in your narrative. We all know who the woman and her daughter were who did the right thing... marble falls Jun 2018 #24

Bringing awareness to racism is critical, but so is encouraging white people to do the right thing oberliner Jun 2018 #26

Black folk shouldn't criticize white people when they behave badly because we might hurt their EffieBlack Jun 2018 #33

Black folk should critcize white people when they behave badly oberliner Jun 2018 #43

There are a few people in this story gollygee Jun 2018 #46

What is the purpose of sharing this story? And the other "white fragility digest" stories? oberliner Jun 2018 #51

The biggest part of the story is the humiliation the woman was made to endure gollygee Jun 2018 #52

Why can't this be discussed together? treestar Jun 2018 #65

Mr. Scorpio presented it in a way that centered the person of color who was discriminated against gollygee Jun 2018 #69

Why does it treestar Jun 2018 #64

Because history EffieBlack Jun 2018 #73

Nothing wrong with pointing them out as an example EffieBlack Jun 2018 #49

See, this is an example of you again mischaracterizing what I said oberliner Jun 2018 #53

Why not? treestar Jun 2018 #61

It's not my job to "encourage the behavior." EffieBlack Jun 2018 #62

Why would you not do it? treestar Jun 2018 #66

You keep writing that "It's not my job". Blue_true Jun 2018 #72

Oh please EffieBlack Jun 2018 #82

Wow, your last paragraph was a stretch. Blue_true Jun 2018 #84

So start your own thread on that subject malaise Jun 2018 #90

It's nice that she did that but that's what she's SUPPOSED to do EffieBlack Jun 2018 #30

Thank you for this response oberliner Jun 2018 #34

Responding EffieBlack Jun 2018 #41

Thank you for the response oberliner Jun 2018 #54

So, if a White person had intervened and called out the racist lawyer, Blue_true Jun 2018 #77

Any decent person treestar Jun 2018 #67

I often help people and have never posted online that I did uppityperson Jun 2018 #81

Does this mean now I have to tell you how awesome you are or you won't be encouraged to do it again? EffieBlack Jun 2018 #87

Maybe I should put it into my sig line, to encourage others to Do Decent Actions uppityperson Jun 2018 #101

The assertion was that any decent person would have done that treestar Jun 2018 #103

Sad day when asking for kudos for doing the right thing shoves the real story, being poor and .... marble falls Jun 2018 #21

Don't we want to encourage white people to not behave with "white fragility" ? oberliner Jun 2018 #23

Why don't we get the white and black out of the story? Why do people get kudos for doing the right.. marble falls Jun 2018 #27

Because we want more people to do the right thing oberliner Jun 2018 #29

What happens when people get rewarded for every little thing they should have been doing.... marble falls Jun 2018 #32

Lol EffieBlack Jun 2018 #44

If every white person called out racism instead of ignoring it, that would be a good thing oberliner Jun 2018 #50

You're right. So I urge you to spend more of your time on DU doing just that, instead of following EffieBlack Jun 2018 #63

Thank you and I do always appreciate your insights oberliner Jun 2018 #70

Thank you. I look forward to seeing you step up and challenge your fellow white DUers when they EffieBlack Jun 2018 #76

Where do we send your medal? marble falls Jun 2018 #86

+1 ck4829 Jun 2018 #25

You think that shoves them into the background? treestar Jun 2018 #68

NO IT DOES NOT!!!!!!!!! Blue_true Jun 2018 #78

The problem is that people should treat each other respectfully and decently, and they don't. uppityperson Jun 2018 #36

Just stop. ismnotwasm Jun 2018 #38

Isn't the point of pointing out pervasive racism to try to get folks to do something about it? oberliner Jun 2018 #39

Because of racism, one point will supersede the other ismnotwasm Jun 2018 #47

Exactly. Thank you uppityperson Jun 2018 #83

You could be viewed as someone who needs to listen more and talk less Cal Carpenter Jun 2018 #88

I only listen and never talk in The Root comment section oberliner Jun 2018 #95

If you'd read the comment section, it's odd that you're complaining that the white woman didn't get EffieBlack Jun 2018 #105

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Huh? oberliner Jun 2018 #94

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Not understanding what you are saying oberliner Jun 2018 #97

Ok, I'll play along. Which part is confusing to you? nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2018 #98

Wasn't understanding the seemingly hostile reaction oberliner Jun 2018 #99

"The next step after awareness is action" EffieBlack Jun 2018 #106

These posts are so incredibly valuable to this site rurallib Jun 2018 #15

K&R ck4829 Jun 2018 #18

It's hard for us white folks to imagine exposure to this type of hate every day. Ligyron Jun 2018 #28

Who is we exactly? BannonsLiver Jun 2018 #92

I think Ligyron was referring to the day to day big and small oppression that blacks must endure EffieBlack Jun 2018 #93

I see what you mean. BannonsLiver Jun 2018 #100

Sorry for not responding, I had a minor situation arise. Ligyron Jun 2018 #102

This isn't very interesting EffieBlack Jun 2018 #104

Thank you for tracking and posting these incidents jmbar2 Jun 2018 #31

You should follow the example of Amanda and her mother oberliner Jun 2018 #48

I plan to jmbar2 Jun 2018 #59

K&R ismnotwasm Jun 2018 #37

I chomp at the bit heaven05 Jun 2018 #40

So a cashier can police who pays for what? Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #74

Yeah, what do they care? treestar Jun 2018 #108

You are going to need a bigger internet grantcart Jun 2018 #79

ROFL! treestar Jun 2018 #107

K&R brer cat Jun 2018 #80

K&R kentuck Jun 2018 #85

Evening K&R BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #89