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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. Well, what matters is that 62% of DEMOCRATS support the NFL players,
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 07:02 AM
Jun 2018
and 66% of blacks.

I hate bogus titles like this. I'm white, I'm an American, I knew that was an intentionally deceptive headline at first glance. We're being tarred with a Republican brushes, one 50 years old, one new, and without thoughtful explanation offered once reading.

Current NFL pollS show a plurality of whites against, but far, far more modest at 60% and for various reasons. (Some are sympathetic to the players cause but think football's an entertainment business, the players are employees, and for either side to express political views to captive paying audiences is inappropriate.)

538: Just as in previous polls on this issue, there are huge racial and partisan divides.

According to the HuffPost/YouGov poll, most black people (66 percent) and Democrats (62 percent) think that kneeling is appropriate, while most white people (60 percent) and Republicans (87 percent) think it is inappropriate.

But opinions among these groups aren’t uniform: 29 percent of black people back the new NFL policy (per Yahoo/YouGov), 34 percent of black people either feel kneeling is inappropriate or aren’t sure how they feel about the issue (per HuffPost/YouGov) and 23 percent of Democrats think kneeling is inappropriate (again per HuffPost). In contrast, just 8 percent of Republicans think it is appropriate. ...

There’s a lot going on in these questions, which makes interpreting them tricky: Patriotism. Free speech. Race. Politics. President Trump. There are a lot hot-button issues that intersect in the NFL protests. As a result, slightly different questions can yield very different results. ...

Finally, it’s not surprising that the national anthem protests are unpopular: As we wrote last year, protests are often unpopular. (If the majority of people supported a position, you likely wouldn’t need to protest in the first place.) About 60 percent of Americans disliked the “sit-ins” conducted by civil rights protesters and the March on Washington led by Martin Luther King Jr. during the 1960s. King himself is revered now, but 63 percent of Americans viewed him unfavorably in a 1966 Gallup survey, compared to 33 percent who had favorable views. Vietnam War protests were also unpopular, as were those against the Iraq War more than three decades later.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/many-americans-agree-with-trumps-nfl-anthem-stance-so-hell-likely-keep-talking-about-it/
K&R Solly Mack Jun 2018 #1
Well, what matters is that 62% of DEMOCRATS support the NFL players, Hortensis Jun 2018 #28
... Soxfan58 Jun 2018 #29
I think it's mostly Republican/right-wing whites sandensea Jun 2018 #2
Which is "most whites", or at least the ones who vote Spider Jerusalem Jun 2018 #16
True. sandensea Jun 2018 #25
But not all. Democratic Party is a coalition of all races american_ideals Jun 2018 #34
I don't know what whites were canvessed, but I don't object to any protests by anyone, it's ... SWBTATTReg Jun 2018 #3
someone should take that actual poll though treestar Jun 2018 #4
Good point! So I checked! :) gollygee Jun 2018 #5
Loll! Nt Anon-C Jun 2018 #9
Oh boy treestar Jun 2018 #10
85% down to only 60%! ProudLib72 Jun 2018 #18
15% in 50 years. nt gollygee Jun 2018 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Jun 2018 #24
Yeah, and the kneeling is not the problem. It's a diversion from the problem. nt CozyMystery Jun 2018 #32
It's manufactured outrage. Kneeling is a sign of *respect* in any other context unblock Jun 2018 #6
Orange inspired too treestar Jun 2018 #11
You mean wy-wypipo oppose NFL players' protest? Answer's simple... they're wypipo, nuff said. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #7
How did white Americans get so weird HopeAgain Jun 2018 #8
+1 treestar Jun 2018 #12
Whites don't, TRUMPETERS do. woundedkarma Jun 2018 #13
Not limited to Republicans. I've seen white people on DU say the players should find a different way EffieBlack Jun 2018 #19
The poll shows some black support for the NFL policy as well. CentralMass Jun 2018 #30
Are these scientific polls? EffieBlack Jun 2018 #37
Here is the link to the article. CentralMass Jun 2018 #38
Thanks EffieBlack Jun 2018 #39
You are welcome. CentralMass Jun 2018 #40
There were a pretty good number of people here who were opposed to it when it started gollygee Jun 2018 #21
K&R ismnotwasm Jun 2018 #14
Their minds have been obliterated by too much faux news and breitbart propaganda dustyscamp Jun 2018 #15
Some Whites Object to Any Type of Protest dlk Jun 2018 #17
Yes I think that's the bottom line gollygee Jun 2018 #23
This is just a very poignant example of who controls the narrative ProudLib72 Jun 2018 #20
I've never understood it iwillalwayswonderwhy Jun 2018 #26
I support my team MFM008 Jun 2018 #27
The answer resides in the question itself. VOX Jun 2018 #31
No. REPUBLICAN white people. american_ideals Jun 2018 #33
The two white conservatives I know MountCleaners Jun 2018 #35
I support them all the way! ananda Jun 2018 #36
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