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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts) Tue Jun 5, 2018, 09:19 AM Jun 2018

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Manafort is FUCKED. And that means... [View all]

Trump is too.

You have to be either completely stupid or completely desperate to tamper with witnesses once you've been indicted by a special prosecutor. Manafort knew he was being observed and monitored which is why he used encrypted software to attempt to communicate. So he's not stupid.

Manafort *is* going to go to jail until his trial. He will break and will turn against Trump to save his own ass. And if Trump tries to pardon him, I suspect Mueller has a plan for that.

Manafort just set off a move that allows Mueller to check-mate Trump. This is the beginning of the end.

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Manafort is FUCKED. And that means... [View all] berni_mccoy Jun 2018 OP

Man, I hope so. We all need some good news and reasons to be hopeful. Question please. PearliePoo2 Jun 2018 #1

Rachel asked the same question tazkcmo Jun 2018 #4

Someone said that the jail he would be going to wasn't anything fancy, just a PearliePoo2 Jun 2018 #8

I hope tazkcmo Jun 2018 #10

Post removed Post removed Jun 2018 #52

Literally! n/t tazkcmo Jun 2018 #57

To quote the late GREAT Bill Hicks, Haggis for Breakfast Jun 2018 #70

I hope he doesn't. WinstonSmith4740 Jun 2018 #72

They feed bologna in jail? I didn't even know bologna was still made! Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #89

White bread tazkcmo Jun 2018 #94

LOL. Yes, he'll get to "meet new people!" Hahahaha. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #96

I think Manafort should be put in maximum security NewJeffCT Jun 2018 #16

A lifetime in Florence ADX seems like a good choice. nt Gore1FL Jun 2018 #17

How 'bout Gitmo? lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #53

Definitely not given a computer or smartphone. Just sayin'. :) nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #90

Since these traitors all like Arapio so much they should go to his old jail. Takket Jun 2018 #28

+1. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #91

im thinking its safer than being out in the open samnsara Jun 2018 #32

Most likely the D.C. Jail montanacowboy Jun 2018 #34

Oh damn, cowboy, I read this as "Most likely the D.C. Jail, I lived there for a while." Leghorn21 Jun 2018 #48

But to his surprise he will feel strangely at home. lunatica Jun 2018 #58

I just heard on CNN it would be Fri if Manafort doesn't BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #61

Today is the day. n/t Eyeball_Kid Jun 2018 #5

Really? Today? That would be awesome! PearliePoo2 Jun 2018 #9

I just read on another thread canetoad Jun 2018 #51

On CNN, a panelist said that Manafort has until this Friday to respond. PearliePoo2 Jun 2018 #55

I love the shock collar idea. WinstonSmith4740 Jun 2018 #73

They've known all along that he's a flight risk FakeNoose Jun 2018 #93

That's some good info there, thank you. PearliePoo2 Jun 2018 #95

She will probably decide today whether to have a hearing and bring OliverQ Jun 2018 #23

What I heard tonight: Stonepounder Jun 2018 #74

Thanks, I heard that too. One legal pundit said Manafort better bring his toothbrush because... PearliePoo2 Jun 2018 #80

Friday, June 15th radical noodle Jun 2018 #79

Yes! That's what I heard too! Thanks! PearliePoo2 Jun 2018 #81

I hope you are right thbobby Jun 2018 #2

That would explain the panic tweeting spinbaby Jun 2018 #3

Maybe something else explains that. How would he have known that ? OnDoutside Jun 2018 #21

He is gonna squeell like a pig Meadowoak Jun 2018 #6

Not sure about that. He might be afraid of the Russians. Putin tends to kill people who might squeal Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #92

My sons wants us to buy some fireworks to set off when Trumpy leaves office. n/t FSogol Jun 2018 #7

I like the way your son thinks! pazzyanne Jun 2018 #11

V-T Day! FSogol Jun 2018 #12

It turns out that this photo is actually of a drunk sailor and a non-consenting stranger. eggplant Jun 2018 #75

Screw the parade 90-percent Jun 2018 #13

You convinced me. pazzyanne Jun 2018 #15

And with Pence in the White House jayschool2013 Jun 2018 #35

Absolutely. pazzyanne Jun 2018 #44

LOL berni_mccoy Jun 2018 #14

That is a Star-Spangled spectacular idea! Ligyron Jun 2018 #39

I think World Wide celebrations need to be organized Quixote1818 Jun 2018 #56

Witness tampering is so stupid it makes you wonder if it was on purpose. gordianot Jun 2018 #18

Manafort has gotten away with everything for his entire life NewJeffCT Jun 2018 #19

Your words are very special.." Manafort has gotten away with everything for his entire life" Stuart G Jun 2018 #65

Manafort must be desperate. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #33

there have been rownesheck Jun 2018 #20

Bingo jayschool2013 Jun 2018 #36

The Macho Jesus Buy-bull thumping crowd will go totally bonkers.... magicarpet Jun 2018 #43

I hate to admit it, but I am thinking the same way you are. smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #46

I agree duforsure Jun 2018 #22

They are nasty signs of something........ MyOwnPeace Jun 2018 #45

Witness Protection for Manafort aeromanKC Jun 2018 #24

I agree duforsure Jun 2018 #83

From your e-lips to God's ears. ButSeeYa Jun 2018 #25

No, he's stupid. snort Jun 2018 #26

In Manafort's case.... SergeStorms Jun 2018 #69

He's safer from Putin in jail. There doing Paul a favor, really. PubliusEnigma Jun 2018 #27

Putin kills people's family's first Manfort is really stupid uponit7771 Jun 2018 #29

That's what I was thinking too. duforsure Jun 2018 #30

im buying stock in Jiffy Pop! samnsara Jun 2018 #31

Hopefully fucked enough to turn on everyone who works with him. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2018 #37

I mostly subscribe to the "more afraid of Putin than jail" theory. BobTheSubgenius Jun 2018 #38

Trump gave the "all clear" signal with his round of pardons, so these traitors now C Moon Jun 2018 #40

More to the point, why tamper with witnesses if you think you'll be getting a pardon? brooklynite Jun 2018 #41

Bingo gordianot Jun 2018 #42

exactly! yonder Jun 2018 #62

Indeed berni_mccoy Jun 2018 #63

Now *there's* the money question. Tatiana Jun 2018 #66

I will believe it when I see it. Tipperary Jun 2018 #47

I'm probably the only one, but I think he will try to run. ooky Jun 2018 #49

I believe he wears an ankle device and I'm also sure he's being watched closely. berni_mccoy Jun 2018 #50

Manafort has TWO ankle devices. Raster Jun 2018 #64

Just opening this thread I got a malware/block warning! empedocles Jun 2018 #54

Me as well, via Malwarebytes. n/t eggplant Jun 2018 #76

3rd malware warning, again on this site, 'latest threads' empedocles Jun 2018 #87

Now I get relentless malwarebytes premium, 'upgrade available' - that don't take empedocles Jun 2018 #97

Is this the reason for Cheetolini's meltdown AwakeAtLast Jun 2018 #59

Absolutely. Iggo Jun 2018 #60

"Paul, Meet Your New Cellmate, Bubba. But Don't Look At Him, He HATES That!" DoctorJoJo Jun 2018 #67

"So he's not stupid." SergeStorms Jun 2018 #68

Whether he's going to jail while waiting for trial isn't decided yet. We'll see. Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #71

Could he possibly give up Pence as well? exboyfil Jun 2018 #77

Sit and rot, bitch. 7wo7rees Jun 2018 #78

We should be arranging a nice little spot for him. Mopar151 Jun 2018 #82

No, he IS stupid. Miles Archer Jun 2018 #84

mueller has to get his bail revoke and manafort thrown in jail until the trial beachbum bob Jun 2018 #85

He's a technological idiot Boomer Jun 2018 #86

Third option...other than stupid or desperate is Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2018 #88