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ithinkmyliverhurts

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11. Thanks for the article.
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 10:54 PM
Aug 2012

A good read.

But I don't know that an argument has actually been made that a government entity should stop chik-fil-a from operating.

Here's the article's fudge: "If Chick-fil-A is violating the law by discriminating against gay people, or by firing women so that they can be "stay home" moms, as one woman who is suing Chick-fil-A says in court documents, that's not exercising religious expression or free speech, and that's not a First Amendment issue. It may be, if the court decides, a violation of the law."

It's a bit of slight of hand. The stay-at-home-mom issue (which I was not aware of until I posted) is really not part of the mayors' complaint--at least not where I've read. So the author of the article above conveniently conflates the two--one that has legal legs and one that does not (at least not now--since stupid non-actionable opinions are not a crime).

Again, protesting the dumbshits from the left is a no-brainer. But I think the mayors were wrong. As leftists we don't want this happening to us.

I imagine most of the protesters there weren't really protesting first amendment rights but were protesting against the LGBT community.

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But they HAVE participated in discriminatory actions and much more. NYC_SKP Aug 2012 #1
Thanks for this. ithinkmyliverhurts Aug 2012 #5
Do you remember Apartheid? Did you know that cities and counties divested for similar reasons? NYC_SKP Aug 2012 #12
Yes, but we have a constitution different from South Africa. ithinkmyliverhurts Aug 2012 #14
I think it's within the law for a community to prevent Chick a Fil from doing business there. NYC_SKP Aug 2012 #18
I doubt this very much. ithinkmyliverhurts Aug 2012 #19
Watch San Francisco. They'll do anything. There's no law against nudity. NYC_SKP Aug 2012 #21
"We reserve the right to refuse to do business with you." Ah yes.... WillowTree Aug 2012 #23
Apples oranges, my friend. NYC_SKP Aug 2012 #24
But contributing is not the same as discrimination, right? ithinkmyliverhurts Aug 2012 #25
Me too. WillowTree Aug 2012 #28
None of which I am aware, however there are outstanding examples of discrimination. NYC_SKP Aug 2012 #31
"And if they didn't do it overtly, they could sure as hell do it covertly." ithinkmyliverhurts Aug 2012 #36
The CEO's opinions isn't what this is really about. RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #2
Thanks for the article. ithinkmyliverhurts Aug 2012 #11
My point had nothing to do with... RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #20
Yes, sorry, I wasn't clear. ithinkmyliverhurts Aug 2012 #22
How do you define a "hate group"? hughee99 Aug 2012 #27
Read the article I posted from HuffPost. RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #34
I completely agree with you on these groups, hughee99 Aug 2012 #42
I haven't taken a stance on government intervention. RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #45
I complete agree. I'm not against a politician saying something about such a business hughee99 Aug 2012 #47
Municipalities prevent the Ku Klux Klan from doing things all the time. randome Aug 2012 #3
Because they enact their policies illegally (assuming they are business owners). ithinkmyliverhurts Aug 2012 #7
I don't understand. randome Aug 2012 #26
Right, but . . . ithinkmyliverhurts Aug 2012 #29
No city has actually kept them out anyway. Lex Aug 2012 #33
I think my post #32 applies. ithinkmyliverhurts Aug 2012 #39
So when money is involved -i.e. a business- free speech rights are defended to the utmost. randome Aug 2012 #37
those are not mutually exclusive positions arely staircase Aug 2012 #4
Here ya go Tx4obama Aug 2012 #6
The bigoted speech was just the trigger for wider exposure of the donation of company TalkingDog Aug 2012 #8
probably why there has been so much blow-back quinnox Aug 2012 #9
Some here, myself included, fully support... WillowTree Aug 2012 #10
For the record, SF Mayor did not say that Chick-fil-a would not be allowed in the city... Luminous Animal Aug 2012 #13
Link? ithinkmyliverhurts Aug 2012 #15
I'm heading off to my favorite bar but I'll happily supply links in the AM. Luminous Animal Aug 2012 #16
Enjoy. ithinkmyliverhurts Aug 2012 #17
Has any city ACTUALLY kept them out? Lex Aug 2012 #30
No. ithinkmyliverhurts Aug 2012 #32
Posturing. Lex Aug 2012 #35
Come over to the Dark Side tf.gray Aug 2012 #38
Chik-fil-a 'CEO' Dan Cathy is not CEO, he is COO DainBramaged Aug 2012 #40
Thank you. ithinkmyliverhurts Aug 2012 #41
The ACLU agrees with you. Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #43
Thanks for the link. ithinkmyliverhurts Aug 2012 #44
Fascism is evil - unless you agree with it Zax2me Aug 2012 #46
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