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53. My principles say let's save lives by making sure that the GOP doesn't win elections...I am more

Reply to Sparkly (Reply #35)

Sat Jun 9, 2018, 08:45 AM

Jun 2018

practical. I prefer to actually accomplish progressive policy goals which is only possible if we win.

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Single Payer vs. Medicare for All [View all] RandySF Jun 2018 OP

I think we get less opposition with Public Option or Medicare Option. Where I live, white wingers Hoyt Jun 2018 #1

We won't get anything if we lose the ACA. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #5

Unless Congress reins in trump, ACA is all but gone. Hoyt Jun 2018 #6

Well it will end up in court. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #9

It's in court now, and trump administration isn't fighting for it. Sad. Hoyt Jun 2018 #12

But we do have people fighting for it...so don't give up hope. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #21

+1. nt ecstatic Jun 2018 #39

wildly popular is an understatement: populistdriven Jun 2018 #2

single payer is meaningless hogwash to most people. not effective. nt msongs Jun 2018 #3

Single payer is the best way to control prices charged for KCDebbie Jun 2018 #4

We don't have a 60 vote majority in the Senate and won't for years maybe decades... Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #7

Starting with a public option would be an alternative. Sophia4 Jun 2018 #44

Sophia we are teetering on losing the ACA...if we lose it even a public option will not Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #52

Losing the ACA means death for a lot of people. Sophia4 Jun 2018 #54

Yes it does. Maybe if we had supported Pres. Obama in 10, we might have gotten one... Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #64

I don't think it will work in this country. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #10

Yes. In Ontario, Canada it is known as OHIP. roamer65 Jun 2018 #14

What's our population compared to Canada & the other smaller countries? Wwcd Jun 2018 #28

I don't believe that we can't figure out how to implement a KCDebbie Jun 2018 #31

If it was only that easy. Blue_true Jun 2018 #34

Canada, just over 30 million, the US around 330 million. Blue_true Jun 2018 #33

Vermont's market may have been too small. Sophia4 Jun 2018 #42

These are the kinds of considerations that he should R B Garr Jun 2018 #49

Yes, a regional healthcare compact could work. Blue_true Jun 2018 #55

That is the most well thought out & sensible reply Wwcd Jun 2018 #45

The rest of the developed world has comprehensive health insurance that covers Sophia4 Jun 2018 #43

It has to be Medicare for all........ a kennedy Jun 2018 #8

No they don't...Medicare covers only 80% of expenses...and there are deductibles... Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #11

Sorry......most people i've talked to love their medicare coverge...... a kennedy Jun 2018 #13

Those who love it probably are those who can afford supplemental insurance Kaleva Jun 2018 #15

People have no understanding of how medicare works. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #18

I have dealt with medicare...anyone will tell you that they want it ...don't touch my medicare but Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #17

Yes, you need a supplement policy, but those policies, even for the oldest and sickest, pnwmom Jun 2018 #22

I get $1158 a month SSDI Kaleva Jun 2018 #25

The insurance payments should be a percentage of the pay or income of a person. Sophia4 Jun 2018 #41

VA is not free as it is funded by taxes. Kaleva Jun 2018 #57

VA is free for the veterans who use it except as to certain things like prescriptions. Sophia4 Jun 2018 #61

The health care your husband and I got in the military is an example of a single payer system Kaleva Jun 2018 #62

A few 100 a month is way more than many can pay...and there is no such thing as family plans on Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #27

Companies could save a lot of money if they did not have to cover their employees' Sophia4 Jun 2018 #40

It is just not true. Those that talk about Europe do not understand how it works ...these are Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #51

I have dealt with medicare a great deal as I have a handicapped sister in law who is on it...it is Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #59

As of right now forthemiddle Jun 2018 #65

There will be still be Medicare Advantage plans TexasBushwhacker Jun 2018 #56

Those plans are expensive...people will be in the same boat they are now...no point in that ... Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #58

I don't pay a nickel extra for mine. n/t TexasBushwhacker Jun 2018 #60

Then you either have Medicaid or you have a 20% liability. I know how it works...or Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #63

Semantics and Principles Sparkly Jun 2018 #16

It has never been one for all in this country and pooling our resources will have no appeal for Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #19

"One for All" is at the root of this country's founding. Sparkly Jun 2018 #23

That is just not true. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #26

Oh my... Sparkly Jun 2018 #29

Right...and that is not working out is it? My goal is to win the midterm and then win in 2020. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #32

Semantics and Principles Sparkly Jun 2018 #35

My principles say let's save lives by making sure that the GOP doesn't win elections...I am more Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #53

Single payer fails miserably as a BRAND. Medicare for all is brilliant. n/t pnwmom Jun 2018 #20

Not so. Sparkly Jun 2018 #24

We pay for Medicare throughout our working lives. Sophia4 Jun 2018 #38

I'm the choir Sparkly Jun 2018 #46

You never know who else is reading. Sophia4 Jun 2018 #47

Not at all. Sparkly Jun 2018 #48

As others have pointed out, Medicare without supplemental is insufficient. Garrett78 Jun 2018 #30

Right! Sophia4 Jun 2018 #37

Another term is simply "universal healthcare" or "universal health insurance." Sophia4 Jun 2018 #36

PSA area51 Jun 2018 #50