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davidpdx

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108. I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV

Sat Aug 4, 2012, 06:49 AM

Aug 2012

(just thought I'd get that out there )

I have studied business law and that is illegal. You should document it carefully and file a complaint with the EEOC. Then if they side with you and he retaliates you can get whistleblower protection and can sue him and the company. I would start by calling the EEOC and talking to them. You may be able to get an initial consultation with a lawyer for free, but it will end up costing you a lot in the long run out of pocket. Also you could check with the local legal aid office as well.

Some have stated that you should lie and call his bluff. The problem with that is if you do and he fires you and you don't file a complaint, then it will make it more difficult to claim what happened. Being in a right to work state may also make it more difficult. Be proactive and do something now.

The guy is a scumbag.

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My conservative employer is making threats. (need advice) [View all] Snoozin Aug 2012 OP

18 USC 594 jberryhill Aug 2012 #1

Somebody send employer a copy of this: treestar Aug 2012 #31

He/She should just document what is said and done, not escalate. CabCurious Aug 2012 #68

Do No Escalate. Just document. CabCurious Aug 2012 #69

We don't talk with our colleagues and friends elleng Aug 2012 #78

Document it. Make a careful note of what was said, who was present, when it was said, etc... Scuba Aug 2012 #2

+1 to both of the above Lydia Leftcoast Aug 2012 #4

Also get statements from your co workers that heard the threats right now. Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #14

Yep. GoCubsGo Aug 2012 #27

Exactly...at this point document everything while it's fresh in your mind... joeybee12 Aug 2012 #16

I had a manager once. He was a bigot and misogynist made terrible comments and threats notadmblnd Aug 2012 #49

+10000000 to this advice. Make a daily record of everything. And don't discount age discrimination Lochloosa Aug 2012 #63

So Obama being President right now isn't hurting his business... Make7 Aug 2012 #3

Somehow it does in the twisted mind of the right wing idiots. liberal N proud Aug 2012 #9

Actually the company is making record profits. Snoozin Aug 2012 #26

He's threatening to fire people because Shankapotomus Aug 2012 #47

The company I work for is making record profits and announced a business restructuring plan liberal N proud Aug 2012 #94

+1 And the Bush tax cuts didn't work the first time Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #21

What state is this? There are many states where you can record anything said to you. slampoet Aug 2012 #5

Right to work states suck. Wait Wut Aug 2012 #6

Employment at will Freddie Aug 2012 #24

Sometimes there is a public policy exception treestar Aug 2012 #32

However, the ACLU might want to make an example of this asshole Warpy Aug 2012 #35

But since this would be a federal crime.... doohnibor Aug 2012 #86

Or if you can stand it Politicalboi Aug 2012 #7

Or, just say "I'm not going to vote -- I won't vote for Romney and you'll fire me gateley Aug 2012 #65

The thing is, it doesn't really matter... regnaD kciN Aug 2012 #82

Four or five of you blew it at "he knows who the 4-5 of us are" slackmaster Aug 2012 #8

Yep, it's best for survival, same for religion and other stuff IMO. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #33

I dont get why someone would let anyone else know what their political views are. loli phabay Aug 2012 #66

Like Linus said (Peanuts): lastlib Aug 2012 #90

Tell him his threats are violating your 1st Amendment Rights of free speech lunatica Aug 2012 #10

1st amendment... Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #12

Thanks! I guess I must have thought of shooting him! lunatica Aug 2012 #13

It is an incorrect response anyway jberryhill Aug 2012 #73

Record him saying that if you can Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #11

That is what I was thinking. I would go to your EEOC in the area if there is one. If I were you southernyankeebelle Aug 2012 #18

That is sad... Snoozin Aug 2012 #20

I now think I understand what happened really in Nazi Germany. People were frightened to death. southernyankeebelle Aug 2012 #22

Essentially, you are advocating abdicating to the nazi party. ret5hd Aug 2012 #36

No, but I am scared. I want to do the right thing. But I honestly don't know until you southernyankeebelle Aug 2012 #41

i will only say... ret5hd Aug 2012 #43

It's easy to say when we aren't in that position. I pray I will do the right thing. Fear is a southernyankeebelle Aug 2012 #97

but it wasn't okay that many Germans were silent, right? CreekDog Aug 2012 #58

It's easy for us to say because we weren't in that situation. I remember my mother southernyankeebelle Aug 2012 #76

IMO Americans have never experienced any of this in the US, so to RKP5637 Aug 2012 #85

You are right. The thing is people is Germany probably felt the same way we do until Hilter southernyankeebelle Aug 2012 #91

My German friends have called Americans "Stupid Americans." That many keep RKP5637 Aug 2012 #93

Funny thing is europeans see the slippery down hill we are going through. southernyankeebelle Aug 2012 #95

The only fundamental principle of individuality is thinking for yourself. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2012 #103

Good for being brave. I wonder being so brave you put your family at harms way? Just southernyankeebelle Aug 2012 #112

No, I don't. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2012 #116

Am glad you are so sure. I wish I could be. southernyankeebelle Aug 2012 #117

Depends on the State Laws. Some states it's illegal to tape someone without their knowledge. Lochloosa Aug 2012 #60

Alot of them are pretty pissed off kctim Aug 2012 #15

He did that last year Snoozin Aug 2012 #17

You may want to try and record or video him making these threats if possible. DrewFlorida Aug 2012 #19

How is he planning on discovering exactly how all of his employees voted? tanyev Aug 2012 #23

He knows who the democrats are. Snoozin Aug 2012 #25

Not participating in Obama bashing is no proof of a vote for Obama, tanyev Aug 2012 #29

He can never prove who you voted for treestar Aug 2012 #28

I agree. How would he know unless you told him? RebelOne Aug 2012 #50

I agree. Tell him you sat out the election. Generic Brad Aug 2012 #99

I would contact an attorney now, ahead of time, if you feel this RKP5637 Aug 2012 #30

It's very wrong and very illegal. Start documenting now. Initech Aug 2012 #34

Perhaps, if your brave enough, verbally mention you know how to contact the (state) department of cecilfirefox Aug 2012 #37

don't tell him you voted. if he asks, tell him you didn't vote. that's as good a lie ellenfl Aug 2012 #38

Well, no. Ineeda Aug 2012 #54

this guy doesn't sound like he would accept that answer, would assume the worst & fire the op! eom ellenfl Aug 2012 #62

You're probably right. Ineeda Aug 2012 #70

As many are saying, get them all together and START DOCUMENTING NOW. nt cecilfirefox Aug 2012 #39

Start a journal, keep detailed accurate notes. grantcart Aug 2012 #51

what economic sector are you in? ret5hd Aug 2012 #40

Manufacturing n/t Snoozin Aug 2012 #44

Document everything - always. Get copies of Roselma Aug 2012 #42

You'd be surprised Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #111

Dang! What a Roselma Aug 2012 #118

We just went through something similar with our niece's boss. procon Aug 2012 #45

Quit working at Chick-fil-A, lol just1voice Aug 2012 #46

I didnt say I NEVER heard of any laws... Snoozin Aug 2012 #56

Just wrong..I know plenty of people that would not know what to do in this situation. Lochloosa Aug 2012 #72

You try it, instead of "check state laws" bullshit just1voice Aug 2012 #100

That's a jerky thing to say. Zoeisright Aug 2012 #98

This message was self-deleted by its author rateyes Aug 2012 #101

Stop Snoozin'. randome Aug 2012 #48

You're the only one who finds that funny. Zoeisright Aug 2012 #96

Like others have said document everything and add the times and dates like a log. moobu2 Aug 2012 #52

Tape recorder. Horse with no Name Aug 2012 #53

Check the state laws on that one....it can be illegal. Lochloosa Aug 2012 #74

It may not be admissable in court Horse with no Name Aug 2012 #79

Fight the good fight. greytdemocrat Aug 2012 #55

If you live in one of the following states you can record the conversation. unapatriciated Aug 2012 #57

I do live in one of those states. Snoozin Aug 2012 #81

My phone is a discretionary form of listening device Broderick Aug 2012 #59

Check with MasterNemesis yellerpup Aug 2012 #61

Lie and tell him you're not voting this time. n/t Lil Missy Aug 2012 #64

What state are you in? Lil Missy Aug 2012 #67

Document it and send Homer12 Aug 2012 #71

and update your resume and look for a new job. TeamPooka Aug 2012 #75

cool story, bro! scheming daemons Aug 2012 #77

Use your imagination NNN0LHI Aug 2012 #80

It's none of his business who his employees vote for. liberalmuse Aug 2012 #83

If you need legal help, I would think the ACLU would be interested in this! DrewFlorida Aug 2012 #84

Thanks Drew Snoozin Aug 2012 #104

It's Voter Intimidation otohara Aug 2012 #87

I could swear this is a repost from 2008. Right down to the "lay'd off" and "jackwagon" part. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2012 #88

This is whole thread is becoming ridiculous. RebelOne Aug 2012 #89

Secret ballot SoCalDem Aug 2012 #92

To those that say "Just tell him it is none of your buisness" DonCoquixote Aug 2012 #102

You have hit the nail on the head. Snoozin Aug 2012 #105

Thanks, and as I said DonCoquixote Aug 2012 #110

It's against the law! I wish my employer B Calm Aug 2012 #106

Wrongful termination lawsuit B Calm Aug 2012 #107

I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV davidpdx Aug 2012 #108

I would have said "fire me mother fucker " sorefeet Aug 2012 #109

If you are in an At-Will state you are screwed, unfortunately. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #113

cool story bro dionysus Aug 2012 #114

It's against the law, but hard to prosecute. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #115

He's just blowing smoke. Curmudgeoness Aug 2012 #119

Digital voice recorder (they're very inexpensive these days)... PavePusher Aug 2012 #120