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JCanete

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133. I think that's a stupid decision. I'm pretty sure the reason Sanders runs as a democrat in vermont

Sat Jun 9, 2018, 07:30 PM

Jun 2018

primaries is because he is most alligned to it while still being philosophically separate(and there may be some political value in having an i next to his name-I wouldn't be surprised), but to run as an independent would mean that the only mechanism of a challenge that a democrat would have to him would be to battle him in the GE, potentially splitting the vote and giving the election to a republican. By running as a democrat, while he went uncontested, somebody could take up the mantle and run against him in the primary, and there would be no vote splitting, regardless of the outcome come election time.

The same could be said of the national election obviously. It wouldn't make near as much sense for Sanders to do this at that level though.

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Note to Our Revolution: Democratic Voters Decide for Themselves [View all] MineralMan Jun 2018 OP

It's like they don't trust us, hmmmmmm all american girl Jun 2018 #1

Well, their approach is failing all across the nation. MineralMan Jun 2018 #2

Spot on!!!!! all american girl Jun 2018 #3

It is, so why this post? Don't we have enough Hortensis Jun 2018 #105

They have a totalitarian strain about them, it's force people to do what THEY think is best. nt Blue_true Jun 2018 #17

They seem to be trying to start a third party within the existing one. MineralMan Jun 2018 #32

That is the scary part DFW Jun 2018 #77

That's exactly what is going on here. yardwork Jun 2018 #103

Makes you wonder DownriverDem Jun 2018 #31

+100 MineralMan Jun 2018 #38

We'll know them by their actions... Pluvious Jun 2018 #56

This quote is from the Director of Strategic Outreach for Our Revolution. NCTraveler Jun 2018 #4

This Tezlyn Figaro? sheshe2 Jun 2018 #7

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Thanks for the link, NCTraveler. sheshe2 Jun 2018 #12

She was on Fox every other day and a dear friend of Nina Turner... sob sob meanies made Turner Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #19

I'm not as confident as you that she is no longer with them. NCTraveler Jun 2018 #23

You may be right...Turner hates Democrats and really doesn't mind Trump if you think about it. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #76

Sanders group reverses, ditches aide who made anti-immigrant comments Exotica Jun 2018 #114

I have read that. NCTraveler Jun 2018 #115

If she still is w/ OR, then it would mean that Turner just flat out lied on record (not saying that Exotica Jun 2018 #116

That quote isn't what I want Progressive dog Jun 2018 #16

Once that came out didn't they fire her though? Nonetheless that quote says volumes... brush Jun 2018 #26

I think that might have been a lot of theater. NCTraveler Jun 2018 #28

I hope they had the good sense to let her go but you're probably right. brush Jun 2018 #36

Her sites copyright is 2018. NCTraveler Jun 2018 #39

Well, that's always a risk, I suppose. MineralMan Jun 2018 #35

That's because Democrats are tools EffieBlack Jun 2018 #5

Those tools set their own destiny. MineralMan Jun 2018 #10

K&R ! stonecutter357 Jun 2018 #6

gladly will support the Dems who won the primaries in the general.... bunny planet Jun 2018 #9

Can't the party talk him into resigning and then replace him? Garrett78 Jun 2018 #15

He better f*cking not JustAnotherGen Jun 2018 #27

Go get 'em, JAGen, and congrats on your new position. brush Jun 2018 #37

Nailed it! peggysue2 Jun 2018 #41

Congratulations JAG! mcar Jun 2018 #88

Yes, now that there is a Dem gov who can appoint someone to replace him. brush Jun 2018 #33

He has a better shot than the challenger in the primary would have. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #20

Hell to the yeah JustAnotherGen Jun 2018 #29

This is true...I support business in general but think regulation and taxation is needed. I make an Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #74

Volunteer for his campaign JustAnotherGen Jun 2018 #30

I supported Bernie rownesheck Jun 2018 #11

Exactly right. Nina Turner and Bernie's "Our Revolution" group do more harm than good. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #42

Too bad you weren't around for the primary in 2016.. disillusioned73 Jun 2018 #99

I think that a lot of people feel the same way. yardwork Jun 2018 #104

When did we become so petty? mythology Jun 2018 #13

Sanders has not yet been imprisoned for his primary challenge. Orsino Jun 2018 #14

Pretty much causing Democrats who are trying to win back Congress problems...and beginning his Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #21

Really. It's like Cha Jun 2018 #24

I am so angry about that. I couldn't believe she said that stuff.... Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #72

Nobody's being petty. This is not about Bernie Sanders. MineralMan Jun 2018 #25

Disingenuous at best, political malpractice at worst BeyondGeography Jun 2018 #43

We will see what happens in November. MineralMan Jun 2018 #44

Maybe...waiting to see what the Trotskyites come up with BeyondGeography Jun 2018 #46

I doubt that many revolutionaries Progressive dog Jun 2018 #18

our revolution are fake revolutionaries living the good life off off donations in my opinion. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #22

sorry that is bullshit dembotoz Jun 2018 #34

No it is true. Their livelihood depends on getting donations. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #70

so now you wanna set peoples pay...... dembotoz Jun 2018 #84

Not at all...and calling someone a Trumper...shame shame! haha Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #90

to compare stein and sanders???????????? shame on you dembotoz Jun 2018 #95

I didn't mean to do that...Stein is a ...well you know...but Sen.Sanders who has angered me from Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #106

it is a sensitive subject. bernie has come to my state working for dems several times...others not dembotoz Jun 2018 #111

+1. And that is not just in the US. OnDoutside Jun 2018 #51

What does that mean? Is OR connected with some foreign entity? Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #69

No, sorry, I meant they're the same in as in other countries, more OnDoutside Jun 2018 #80

I agree with you and I wondered if they were or are involved with Russia...not to transparent with Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #92

I've been wondering the same thing. Someone has definitely been working on their messaging. OnDoutside Jun 2018 #93

I think so too. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #107

Ortega once did that in Nicaragua. brush Jun 2018 #40

Well done! HenryWallace Jun 2018 #45

I'm sorry, but why should I listen to you? MineralMan Jun 2018 #47

He isn't asking for fealty, just the opposite I think. Our revolution is wasupaloopa Jun 2018 #57

So much wrong here! HenryWallace Jun 2018 #68

The "issues based endorcements" ignore the local issues that candidiates run on. Each House district wasupaloopa Jun 2018 #75

So you want Our Revolution to become what you want it to be? HenryWallace Jun 2018 #83

I don't give a damn what Our Revolution does or is. I mostly ignore them. I am saying wasupaloopa Jun 2018 #87

Yes we disagree HenryWallace Jun 2018 #94

Oh good grief! NurseJackie Jun 2018 #102

Their goal is to keep GOP in power if they cant have power. I consider them enemies of freedom Eliot Rosewater Jun 2018 #109

One can't accomplish ANYTHING if one doesn't get elected to office. George II Jun 2018 #110

"Fixated on all things Russian" mcar Jun 2018 #89

Post removed Post removed Jun 2018 #97

I acknowledge no such thing mcar Jun 2018 #98

Some can't admit that the Russians helped get Cha Jun 2018 #112

Some have their heads in the sand, Cha mcar Jun 2018 #113

Yeah, they're stuck on their agenda.. Cha Jun 2018 #118

It had major consequences for our Federal Republic JustAnotherGen Jun 2018 #100

How do we know that Russian interference had no effect on the outcome? George II Jun 2018 #101

No, disloyalty and believing the GOP and the Dems are the same is how we got here...and now Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #73

So, just out of sheer curiosity, what inspired this at this particular point in time? KPN Jun 2018 #48

Yesterday's primary elections. MineralMan Jun 2018 #49

Has Our Revolution been belly-aching about the results? KPN Jun 2018 #50

I have no idea. MineralMan Jun 2018 #52

It is irrelevant. I was just wondering as I hadn't seen or heard anything. KPN Jun 2018 #54

You haven't seen or heard anything because it's irrelevant. marble falls Jun 2018 #119

They never bellyache over any results. All results "show that they are right" ehrnst Jun 2018 #58

Sanders has not yet been imprisoned for primarying Clinton. n/t Orsino Jun 2018 #121

I like the current Dem strategy vlyons Jun 2018 #53

Yes. Local candidates know their own districts. MineralMan Jun 2018 #55

Imagine that.... (nt) ehrnst Jun 2018 #61

I have 6 great choices in VA 10th - a happy quandary. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #59

Why send this JUST to Our revolution karynnj Jun 2018 #60

I didn't send it to anyone outside of DU. MineralMan Jun 2018 #62

I wrote this poorly - I know it was a message on DU karynnj Jun 2018 #65

It was an attack, more or less. MineralMan Jun 2018 #66

Sorry...if they are not aligned with our party, they don't share our values...Democrats are the Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #108

Our Revolution did not do well in these primaries Gothmog Jun 2018 #63

They haven't done well in any of the primaries so far, really. MineralMan Jun 2018 #64

We are Democrats, not the Comrade Society. Dawson Leery Jun 2018 #67

OR isn't on our side... They're just here to fuck us up Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #71

Are they complaining? Eliot Rosewater Jun 2018 #78

KnR Hekate Jun 2018 #79

K&R mcar Jun 2018 #81

Analysis: How did Bernie Sanders Democrats do in the primaries? Gothmog Jun 2018 #82

Yes. Exactly. MineralMan Jun 2018 #85

Thanks for that from the Vermont Cha Jun 2018 #86

kicked Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #91

They love to tell me that they would never vote for a candidate that takes corporate money Downtown Hound Jun 2018 #96

what are you even talking about? What is this referring to? Where does Our Revolution dispute JCanete Jun 2018 #117

You should to tell that to people who think that Superdelegates ehrnst Jun 2018 #120

They don't need to, since they can nullify 10,000 votes a piece. That shit is stupid. JCanete Jun 2018 #122

Do you have any data that shows the vote for any candidate has been "supressed" by SDs? ehrnst Jun 2018 #124

I dodn't know that there's any data on that effect, although I can tell you there are probably a lot JCanete Jun 2018 #125

So, the idea that they do suppress, and have suppressed votes is your opinion, and is not based ehrnst Jun 2018 #126

again, 10,000 votes is not influencing. That is 10,000 votes. Second, I absolutely explained it. JCanete Jun 2018 #127

You claim that it's voter suppression to have superdelegates who are party faithful ehrnst Jun 2018 #128

I did comment on caucuses. I asked for clarification on what you were speaking to. I gave you JCanete Jun 2018 #129

Are you saying there was a deal? ehrnst Jun 2018 #130

I have no idea whether there was a deal and how would I know that. I know that the democratic party JCanete Jun 2018 #131

Yes, there were many things unprecedented about his campaign. ehrnst Jun 2018 #132

I think that's a stupid decision. I'm pretty sure the reason Sanders runs as a democrat in vermont JCanete Jun 2018 #133

Do you also think that the majority of Democrats are also "stupid?" ehrnst Jun 2018 #134

according to what? Did the majority of democrats really weigh in on this? I certainly don't remember JCanete Jun 2018 #135

I am so glad that voters ignored sanders and our revolution Gothmog Jun 2018 #123