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Demsrule86

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118. I answered that before but happy to do so again...I was referring to criticizing the party.

Reply to Voltaire2 (Reply #116)

Sun Jun 10, 2018, 07:02 PM

Jun 2018

I am completely against open primaries.

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There seems to be a lot of Democratic party bashing in the past couple weeks on DU. [View all] C Moon Jun 2018 OP

We are experiencing a wave -- just not a blue wave. Resist them. Hekate Jun 2018 #1

Yes! C Moon Jun 2018 #2

right wing trolls always increase around election time JI7 Jun 2018 #3

What's behind it all? RandySF Jun 2018 #4

Those who are here only BlueMTexpat Jun 2018 #5

Constructive criticism is not bashing jodymarie aimee Jun 2018 #6

No, it's on Fucking Russia and all those who Cha Jun 2018 #10

+1 (n/t) FreepFryer Jun 2018 #16

.. Cha Jun 2018 #19

Yep. sheshe2 Jun 2018 #64

.. Cha Jun 2018 #122

Right, Cha! And spooky3 Jun 2018 #103

Yes, Thanks for Specifying the Enablers, Spooky! Cha Jun 2018 #123

:-) spooky3 Jun 2018 #124

Wrong. betsuni Jun 2018 #12

No such thing as constructive criticism. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #13

Do you really believe this or are you being sarcastic? oberliner Jun 2018 #14

I mean it...there is nothing constructive about criticizing the Democratic Party, It merely drives Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #15

Does that include criticism of Kirsten Gillibrand? oberliner Jun 2018 #17

Who? brush Jun 2018 #23

The junior Democratic senator from NY oberliner Jun 2018 #36

Oh her. Wasn't she once a contender for the Dem nomination for president... brush Jun 2018 #40

She's still a contender oberliner Jun 2018 #42

Not by many. brush Jun 2018 #43

The top 15 Democratic presidential hopefuls for 2020, ranked (Washington Post) oberliner Jun 2018 #46

So there are five ahead of her? brush Jun 2018 #48

Bernie, Warren, and Biden still top the list oberliner Jun 2018 #49

Who are the other two ahead of her? brush Jun 2018 #55

Harris and Booker oberliner Jun 2018 #67

"some would argue" --- LOL! NurseJackie Jun 2018 #58

Well the WaPo listed him as #1 of "Top 15 Democratic presidential hopefuls" oberliner Jun 2018 #68

Oh good grief! GMAFB! Nice try, but totally irrelevant. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #84

What do you imagine happened that would in any way affect her possible Presidential plans? brooklynite Jun 2018 #126

Not grumbling. Stating reality. Her 2020 ambitions are toast. brush Jun 2018 #127

Based on what evidence? brooklynite Jun 2018 #128

And you somehow think that won't come up in the primaries brush Jun 2018 #129

...along with every other member of the Senate Caucus. After Franken apologized for his behavior. brooklynite Jun 2018 #137

And you as well. I wasn't the one who bought up Gillibrand in this thread. brush Jun 2018 #140

One can say as I have and others that they won't back her in a primary but attacking her is against Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #37

Understood oberliner Jun 2018 #44

People read this site and quote it too...I didn't say criticism isn't allowed ...not my place. I Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #61

Depends what the criticism is. bearsfootball516 Jun 2018 #29

Not everyone agree with what is wrong first of all and the party can cater to a million Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #38

I don't think so. And why would anyone join a party that their own members complain about...what Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #78

Lordy , lordy--there's a recipe shanny Jun 2018 #22

OK...sure but where does winning fit in because some of the reason we lost people in the party is Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #39

oy vey shanny Jun 2018 #54

Not everyone agrees on what makes a party 'better'. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #59

That sounds like "stand for nothing except winning" shanny Jun 2018 #60

Winning is everything...and the naivete I see here about what is possible is Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #75

People who don't learn from history... shanny Jun 2018 #82

And without the blue dogs we get nothing...no way you get liberals in those states...that is Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #100

Your zombie meme "Heritage Foundation equals Obamacare" needs to die. It's bullshit. emulatorloo Jun 2018 #105

How is calling Democrats "weak," "spineless," "corporatists" mcar Jun 2018 #66

+ 1 treestar Jun 2018 #79

I would actually welcome true constructive criticism mcar Jun 2018 #88

Agreed! There's nothing constructive about mere insults and name-calling. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #85

Or the same old, same old mcar Jun 2018 #89

And the same old "where are the Democrats to say x and fight back?" treestar Jun 2018 #91

Well, see, before the "construction" comes the "demolition" MineralMan Jun 2018 #99

Something like that mcar Jun 2018 #102

This disinformation is an attempt to discourage voters from going to the polls emulatorloo Jun 2018 #106

I well remember it, emulatorloo mcar Jun 2018 #112

Depends on if it is true I guess. shanny Jun 2018 #131

Not constructive mcar Jun 2018 #132

Many would disagree. shanny Jun 2018 #135

Or calling liberals "fucking retarded" progressoid Jun 2018 #133

egzactly! shanny Jun 2018 #138

THIS progressoid Jun 2018 #130

Thank you for your comment! It clarifies a lot. Jim Lane Jun 2018 #90

Jim the house is on fire...now is not the time to remake the party.And I would bet you and I might Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #96

So that didn't answer the question. Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #116

I answered that before but happy to do so again...I was referring to criticizing the party. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #118

Ok got it. Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #120

I am against criticism of any sort in general...but I am not a DU God and can't tell people Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #125

You're against criticism of any sort in general... progressoid Jun 2018 #134

Amazing melman Jun 2018 #104

Yes it is! It's definitely bashing, especially when ... NurseJackie Jun 2018 #18

Wow! Cha Jun 2018 #20

Now that's what I'm talking about. Love it. brush Jun 2018 #24

True enough, so well said. CatMor Jun 2018 #30

Yes, indeed! Guilded Lilly Jun 2018 #35

Right. shanny Jun 2018 #21

Bashing is not constructive criticism mcar Jun 2018 #32

Agreed! Calling Democrats "feeble" and "corrupt" and "ideologically bankrupt" is not constructive... NurseJackie Jun 2018 #51

Exactly mcar Jun 2018 #65

Too many here are still NOT ready to accept this. aikoaiko Jun 2018 #33

Aw. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #53

No worries. You'll still get to hear the criticisms here on DU and elsewhere aikoaiko Jun 2018 #56

Those who seek to smear and divide and weaken the Democratic party... NurseJackie Jun 2018 #63

I don't think anyone has an issue with people who care DFW Jun 2018 #92

Accept what... certain defeat becauses that is where we are headed if we continue to bash the party. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #76

Accept that we have to talk about how we can appeal to more voters. aikoaiko Jun 2018 #80

Here is the Democratic Party Platform NY_20th Jun 2018 #93

I wonder if the Very Concerned People among us will ever read that Hekate Jun 2018 #110

Its a lovely platform, mostly. aikoaiko Jun 2018 #114

Our platform is great but we have 32 states in GOP hands...they voted for governors in a statewide Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #101

Here's the thing. I'm not talking about more liberal or leftie candidates in this thread. aikoaiko Jun 2018 #115

I believe in working within the state or district...and tailering a message for that district. And Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #119

Agreed. TDale313 Jun 2018 #73

Suuuurrreee... Adrahil Jun 2018 #98

"That's on us"? Are you effing joking? Hekate Jun 2018 #108

Disagree! Caliman73 Jun 2018 #136

There were only 2 candidates who could win jodymarie aimee Jun 2018 #139

We're in the middle of a huge battle for power. Hortensis Jun 2018 #7

I've been surprised at the dismissive criticism empedocles Jun 2018 #8

one intent of russian interference is to drive a wedge in the democratic party and to tell beachbum bob Jun 2018 #9

You're right. It doesn't take much. A few comments about there not being... brush Jun 2018 #25

I recall info saying russia trolls fomented arguments about Beyonce empedocles Jun 2018 #47

Yep. Just say "vote for Democrats", not "independents should transform the party". brush Jun 2018 #50

the bot software machinery can issue 10's of thousands of user comments and postings in minutes beachbum bob Jun 2018 #52

it's dissent, not descent shanti Jun 2018 #77

Spellcheck..what can I say... beachbum bob Jun 2018 #121

I'd like to address MFM008 Jun 2018 #11

+1 C Moon Jun 2018 #97

Ill be more diplomatic BannonsLiver Jun 2018 #111

I don't read posts bashing dems because I've always been a democrat blueinredohio Jun 2018 #26

Bernie ain't unity or a Democrat. democratisphere Jun 2018 #27

This place has become an echo chamber. And not much more. Ron Green Jun 2018 #28

Trolls Stinky The Clown Jun 2018 #31

Haven't seen it. What are examples? aikoaiko Jun 2018 #34

Well, the November election IS drawing nearer each day... MineralMan Jun 2018 #41

I'm permanently suspicious of such party bashing, since 2016. Paladin Jun 2018 #45

Me too. I don't trust folks who do it constantly. I am tired of having OR shoved down my throat... Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #62

The problem is the origin is well disguised. Blue_true Jun 2018 #71

This is a defining moment if our country WhiteTara Jun 2018 #57

Then why DiverDave Jun 2018 #69

I lulz'd KG Jun 2018 #70

i came to DU with eyes wide open but found that far too many Kurt V. Jun 2018 #72

Obviously. Snackshack Jun 2018 #74

The undermining of unity is . . . peggysue2 Jun 2018 #81

Where is all this Democratic bashing ? I see tons of Bernie bashing. CentralMass Jun 2018 #83

Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #86

The Democrat bashing ?. CentralMass Jun 2018 #95

Russians did this in 2016 and they're doing it again NastyRiffraff Jun 2018 #87

Don't think they realize that reading trash talk against a strongly held belief just makes it unitedwethrive Jun 2018 #94

You just now figured that out? Lil Missy Jun 2018 #107

Debate vs. Bashing northremembers Jun 2018 #109

I've also seen Democratic candidates bash the Democratic party crazycatlady Jun 2018 #113

Past couple of weeks, hahaha. joshcryer Jun 2018 #117