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113. And Sanders adopted HRC's college plan realizing free college for all benefited the upper brackets.

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Mon Jun 11, 2018, 12:46 AM

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2018 OP

Sorry we disagee here, Peg. elleng Jun 2018 #1

Do you speak for everyone? njhoneybadger Jun 2018 #2

She doesn't appear to be. tazkcmo Jun 2018 #3

I speak for myself, which should be apparent. elleng Jun 2018 #5

Clearly, the "we" in your subject was confusing to someone... Beartracks Jun 2018 #111

No, obviously. dhol82 Jun 2018 #6

I think his time is finished. dhol82 Jun 2018 #7

What? pangaia Jun 2018 #64

How do you get that out of her post? Texasgal Jun 2018 #87

Why ask such a question? There's no need to be rude like that when someone is... InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #103

Why not ask the same of the OP? -- answer, NEITHER claimed to speak for everyone karynnj Jun 2018 #174

What so many people miss about Bernie... rwsanders Jun 2018 #25

YES, Thank you, rwsanders. elleng Jun 2018 #29

Except the Democrats have been saying it for years, and are the ones advancing the very ChrisTee Jun 2018 #57

I agree. brer cat Jun 2018 #68

The heartbreak we didn't get HRC in there to work on ACA. Instead it is being attacked, once again. ChrisTee Jun 2018 #73

In general, Democrats have not campaigned for healthcare for all. Sophia4 Jun 2018 #99

This is just laughable. Hillary Clinton started the Universal R B Garr Jun 2018 #104

And Sanders adopted HRC's college plan realizing free college for all benefited the upper brackets. ChrisTee Jun 2018 #113

Yes, plus he never explains why his ideas are not a reality in Vermont. Just R B Garr Jun 2018 #121

So he's the governor of Vermont and not the Senator? Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2018 #153

Oh goodness, this is always hilarious how he's not responsible R B Garr Jun 2018 #161

You know he's on the Outreach Committee, right? Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2018 #162

His rally's are about his core pet issues. He is the promoter R B Garr Jun 2018 #165

Wait? I thought those things he stands for are long-time Dem positions. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2018 #166

But Vermont doesn't have his pet issues. Right? R B Garr Jun 2018 #168

The Outreach position isn't about voters. n/t tammywammy Jun 2018 #167

Do you ask that of ANY other potential nominee??? karynnj Jun 2018 #175

None of the others put themselves out as saviors R B Garr Jun 2018 #180

Everyone who puts themselves out as President does so because they have some confidence that karynnj Jun 2018 #201

Free college for all benefits everyone and gets the economy going. Sophia4 Jun 2018 #150

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2018 #152

If the openings are limited, it's not free post-secondary education. Sophia4 Jun 2018 #156

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2018 #159

Yes, more and more Democrats are joining Bernie on a whole host of issues... InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #107

Is this performance art? MrsCoffee Jun 2018 #146

Sen. Sanders advocates for something that is not possible and may not be for many years while Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #135

and the untouchable military budget, nt G_j Jun 2018 #147

Yes. sheshe2 Jun 2018 #182

So Democrats need to research and talk about single payer and persuade voters Sophia4 Jun 2018 #184

Yes, the issues will remain. However he didn't invent these issues. These are solid Democratic emulatorloo Jun 2018 #58

Well said... I'm among those of whom you speak. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #105

Me too! Thekaspervote Jun 2018 #123

Same ideas for so many years. sheshe2 Jun 2018 #31

Yes, you take your friends where you found them. If someone offers a hand to help and JoeOtterbein Jun 2018 #40

Well sheshe2 Jun 2018 #50

Looks like I miss read your post. I was starting to hope that times were changing enough to JoeOtterbein Jun 2018 #53

Friends do not call friends morally corrupt. sheshe2 Jun 2018 #61

I think that money buys those who will never let either economic or social justice for us. JoeOtterbein Jun 2018 #69

Thanks, Joe. elleng Jun 2018 #77

No power struggle... Cary Jun 2018 #154

I'm with you. nt Ferrets are Cool Jun 2018 #32

I agree too, in spades shanny Jun 2018 #67

Agreed. Been there, done that in 2016. In 2020 we'll have many... brush Jun 2018 #4

I agree with this. volstork Jun 2018 #24

Define "Actual Democratic" tiredtoo Jun 2018 #35

One who doesn't get help from Russia MrPool Jun 2018 #44

lol shanny Jun 2018 #66

LOL MrPool Jun 2018 #115

Who got help from Russia? tiredtoo Jun 2018 #80

You're not up on things are you? MrPool Jun 2018 #114

I'll give you a name - Sherrod Brown. A solid progressive who is PROUD to be a Democrat emulatorloo Jun 2018 #62

I like Sherrod Brown EOM tiredtoo Jun 2018 #79

He's great. Wish I had a Senator like him. emulatorloo Jun 2018 #88

I like Brown but I wish he hadn't joined the saber-rattlers about North Korea. Jim Lane Jun 2018 #169

I'll Be One Of The Few To Stand By You Me. Jun 2018 #8

As a Sanders Primary supporter there is one other thing rufus dog Jun 2018 #9

Anybody who runs for president has a fairly high opinion of themselves mythology Jun 2018 #83

A reasonable comparison mcar Jun 2018 #10

That's a good way to put my position, also. erronis Jun 2018 #23

He does. Constantly. Kentonio Jun 2018 #197

Yes he does mcar Jun 2018 #202

No, he doesn't. Kentonio Jun 2018 #203

Nancy Pelosi is a year older than Bernie Sanders Sienna86 Jun 2018 #11

Pelosi and Bernie past their prime? Hardly... still strong and kickin' Rethug ass! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #109

What Rethugs ass has he kicked at all?? MrPool Jun 2018 #118

Agree! Wow.. Thank you, CalPeggy! Cha Jun 2018 #12

Not even close in terms of national stature and impact BeyondGeography Jun 2018 #13

Well said!!! rwsanders Jun 2018 #26

Hillary won 34 primary states and Bernie won 23 underthematrix Jun 2018 #34

Don't be so defensive about Hillary Clinton. Jim Lane Jun 2018 #171

I was just stating the facts. Hillary won the nomination because underthematrix Jun 2018 #183

You were just stating irrelevant facts. Jim Lane Jun 2018 #204

Thank you. shanti Jun 2018 #39

Maybe you should ask some ofl his key surrogates MrPool Jun 2018 #45

... InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #112

When you say, ".. most of us don't agree, or aren't interested." I'm not sure who you mean. aikoaiko Jun 2018 #14

I agree. CentralMass Jun 2018 #71

Bernie says a lot of very smart things, and I am very interested in what he has to say. StrictlyRockers Jun 2018 #15

I don't want to hear anything he has to say. Cha Jun 2018 #41

Bernie is dreamy. StrictlyRockers Jun 2018 #46

So you say Cha Jun 2018 #51

Ok, I agree that we disagree on this, although I agree with you on most everything else. StrictlyRockers Jun 2018 #86

the thing i will never forgive dennis for- mopinko Jun 2018 #16

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2018 #36

Agreed, and the same comparison had already occurred to me as well. Lisa0825 Jun 2018 #17

I agree. I think if Sanders runs as an Independent, he will see he does not have the support ChrisTee Jun 2018 #18

Are you for some reason hoping Sanders runs as an Independent. shanny Jun 2018 #70

Hoping? I think he will run as Independent. I do not think the Democratic Party will welcome him. ChrisTee Jun 2018 #74

If he declares himself a Democrat, the party will have no choice. shanny Jun 2018 #85

Is that declaration before or after he runs for the Senate in 2018? TexasTowelie Jun 2018 #94

Why should it matter if he does it now? shanny Jun 2018 #97

I don't hate Bernie, but I don't think he is helpful for Democrats. TexasTowelie Jun 2018 #101

I don't particularly care if he is helpful to the Democratic Party shanny Jun 2018 #143

True that I'm not a Vermnonter and I can't make demands of anyone. TexasTowelie Jun 2018 #185

I'm cool with that. shanny Jun 2018 #191

These self-important threats are getting old. If he doesn't R B Garr Jun 2018 #98

Love Bernie, but if he ran as an Independent, I'd be over him in a heartbeat. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #110

He couldn't drop the Democratic party fast enough to go back to Independent. R B Garr Jun 2018 #119

Obviously there's a BIG difference between running for VT Senator and for President. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #131

And that's exactly why he wants to run (again!) as a pretend Democrat NastyRiffraff Jun 2018 #158

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2018 #160

To Say The Least Me. Jun 2018 #188

K&R! MrsCoffee Jun 2018 #19

Kucinich wanted a Dept Of Peace. JohnnyRingo Jun 2018 #20

Ho-hum. So tired of this. zentrum Jun 2018 #21

I dont agree quakerboy Jun 2018 #22

Comparison seems accurate to me... SidDithers Jun 2018 #27

Post removed Post removed Jun 2018 #28

BULL.. Hillary lost because of the Fucking Russians and Cha Jun 2018 #37

I tend to agree relayerbob Jun 2018 #30

I disagree quaker bill Jun 2018 #33

Bernie will stick around long enough to shit the bed in 2020 and help Trump win again. PubliusEnigma Jun 2018 #38

Lookin' like.. Cha Jun 2018 #52

Or long enough to prove people wrong. Raysawesome34 Jun 2018 #207

I have to apologize. Blue_true Jun 2018 #42

magic never-defines-a-path heaven shanny Jun 2018 #81

This thread is pathetic and disgusting Bernie bashing IMHO Stainless Jun 2018 #43

I asked for civility, and your remarks are far from that. CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2018 #48

Well read some of the other posts. Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #55

You could hide the thread. It's easy. CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2018 #56

Yes I could hide all the Bernie bashing threads in gd. Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #132

As well as those lauding him as an implicit sacred cow. LanternWaste Jun 2018 #144

Or you could stop trying to divide Democrats Kentonio Jun 2018 #199

Tell that to Senator Sanders. Cha Jun 2018 #108

The problem with Bernie Manastash Jun 2018 #47

Interesting observations. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #96

Nice narrative. However Bernie campaigned for Hillary Clinton.... marble falls Jun 2018 #198

I thought the same thing a while back katmondoo Jun 2018 #49

agreed mehrrh Jun 2018 #54

Kucinich? snort Jun 2018 #59

U call him kucinich then expected civility... Damn funniest thing on du today dembotoz Jun 2018 #60

Obama was criticized "Feet to the fire" here all the time. Why is Bernie special? stevenleser Jun 2018 #126

bernie gets thrown under the bus so often here we could call him greyhound dembotoz Jun 2018 #140

"as far as obama. he was never criticized on du the way bernie is ..." betsuni Jun 2018 #145

happy you find honesty amusing dembotoz Jun 2018 #149

You mean: "I'm happy you honestly find this amusing." betsuni Jun 2018 #157

dont put words in my mouth and i wont crap in yours dembotoz Jun 2018 #177

What was the purpose of this post? mudstump Jun 2018 #63

My purpose was to share my thoughts. Period. CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2018 #65

Do you consider your thoughts to be more important than party unity? Kentonio Jun 2018 #200

A civil Rec #47 & K!1 UTUSN Jun 2018 #72

From a Sanders supporter (on issues) and Hillary voter (on party) NRaleighLiberal Jun 2018 #75

Doesn't remind me of Kucinich at all Power 2 the People Jun 2018 #76

Peggy actually I don't agree mvd Jun 2018 #78

Ah, yes, you ask for civility.... DFW Jun 2018 #82

Bernie and his agenda are as relevant and popular as ever. The obsession CentralMass Jun 2018 #84

Wrong. It's a testament to his divisiveness, not his R B Garr Jun 2018 #90

I disagree The negativity here is anti-Sanders hatred. CentralMass Jun 2018 #92

From his divisiveness... R B Garr Jun 2018 #93

I completely agree with you, California Peggy. I just hope he is not allowed to use the Democratic lunamagica Jun 2018 #89

Another civil rec, CaliforniaPeggy. R B Garr Jun 2018 #91

Excellent observations. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #95

As I responded to another post, Bernie favors health insurance that is affordable Sophia4 Jun 2018 #100

BS can "favor" all he wants.. President Obama actually got Cha Jun 2018 #106

Took the "favor" part right outta my 'mouth'. 👏 sprinkleeninow Jun 2018 #128

Mahalo, sprinkleeninow.. Cha Jun 2018 #130

Cha, sprinkleeninow Jun 2018 #181

I teraz po polsku? DFW Jun 2018 #186

Ja ne speak slovensky very dobre. Very little of Polish. sprinkleeninow Jun 2018 #192

Ah, I get it DFW Jun 2018 #194

Hospodi pomiluj. sprinkleeninow Jun 2018 #205

By the way, I forgot to mention DFW Jun 2018 #195

I totally agree. nt Tavarious Jackson Jun 2018 #102

Time will tell. jalan48 Jun 2018 #116

There's definitely some ego involved, IMO. ecstatic Jun 2018 #117

He reminded me of Kucinich from the very beginning. The schtick is impossible to miss. Cruz does it stevenleser Jun 2018 #120

I see major differences between the two Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #122

GMTA, Peggy. I was just thinking about Kucinich yesterday... Hekate Jun 2018 #124

I am not a fan of Bernie Sanders but I have to disagree. Bernie had a lot more success in 2016 StevieM Jun 2018 #125

Thank you for honesty that is all too rare among those "not a fan of Bernie Sanders" Jim Lane Jun 2018 #172

This message was self-deleted by its author Jim Lane Jun 2018 #173

Both Sanders and Kucinich have been on the right side of history AtomicKitten Jun 2018 #127

you don't speak for all of us at all, and you pulled "most of us disagree" out of thin air. JCanete Jun 2018 #129

You don't speak for me. RandiFan1290 Jun 2018 #133

Don't worry, your attempts to divide us before the midterms do not go unnoticed Kentonio Jun 2018 #134

I see a lot of similarities between Bernie and Dennis dansolo Jun 2018 #136

Not a very apt comparison (to put it politely). demmiblue Jun 2018 #137

Samders & Kucinich are fighting for what they've always fought for: Martin Eden Jun 2018 #138

If Bernie cannot see the danger in Donald Trump and the necessity for Democrats to come together... kentuck Jun 2018 #139

+1000 (nt) ehrnst Jun 2018 #142

Those cheering crowds of college kids are difficult to give up ehrnst Jun 2018 #141

Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Jun 2018 #148

Listened to Bernie for years... N_E_1 for Tennis Jun 2018 #151

exactly right ProfessorPlum Jun 2018 #189

I was amused to see sanders and Our revolution endorse Dennis Gothmog Jun 2018 #155

Dennis Kucinich didn't carry 23 states in the Democratic primary oberliner Jun 2018 #163

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He did not have anything approaching Bernie's level of support in 2004 oberliner Jun 2018 #178

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I don't agree n/t budkin Jun 2018 #164

The comparative political roles of Sanders and Kucinich Jim Lane Jun 2018 #176

I think Bernie sees himself as coopting the party. Adrahil Jun 2018 #187

It's not even Sanders so much as that his ideas and ideals are ones that lots of people ProfessorPlum Jun 2018 #190

I agree. we can do it Jun 2018 #193

Economist--Berned out Gothmog Jun 2018 #196

This is an unwinnable game, Peggy. tavernier Jun 2018 #206

Something occurred to me today, about Bernie Sanders and his political role. CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2018 #208