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Cary

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39. I didnt say, did I?

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:46 PM

Jun 2018

It isn't up to me anyway. I favor consequences. I don't know what, yet, but it has to both go beyond anything we have done before and stay within the bounds of ethics and reason.

They have no problem blowing past norms. In light of that development we need to do some serious re-evaluation. I'm thinking here of Lincoln declaring marshall law and Sherman's March to the Sea. We do have some precedent.

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It is time to flat out declare that 30% to 40% of our electorate are bad people [View all] Cary Jun 2018 OP

That'll win them over. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2018 #1

??? Cary Jun 2018 #3

That's a major fixation for a lot of people in the Democratic Party and on the "left" Spider Jerusalem Jun 2018 #46

I never thought of it that way Cary Jun 2018 #47

Well. It would be nice to have them vote for us fescuerescue Jun 2018 #51

Go look at the cavers and creeps like them Cary Jun 2018 #55

FFS, we're not winning them over. Maven Jun 2018 #6

So whats the plan to get more votes fescuerescue Jun 2018 #53

No. Convince the ones we already have brer cat Jun 2018 #59

That's a great goal fescuerescue Jun 2018 #61

Obviously Cary Jun 2018 #84

I'm sure it would never happen... brer cat Jun 2018 #95

"Win them over?" What I would suggest doing with them ends with Atticus Jun 2018 #7

Win them over? Bettie Jun 2018 #14

And if the victim were a liberal Democrat, they would hold a parade for Trump. nt Maven Jun 2018 #24

Exactly Bettie Jun 2018 #33

Literally...a parade. Anon-C Jun 2018 #101

You get it. Cary Jun 2018 #45

I spend a lot of time reading at Bettie Jun 2018 #57

Is this serious? mcar Jun 2018 #22

They can't and won't be won over. LuckyCharms Jun 2018 #29

LOL, they can be won over? ck4829 Jun 2018 #48

Keep tilting at windmills, boss RhodeIslandOne Jun 2018 #110

You don't win over bad people. You call them out blake2012 Jun 2018 #117

You are charitable, I always figured like 75%-90% are bad people. Doreen Jun 2018 #2

My cousin is an Ivy League graduate, MBA and JD degree NoMoreRepugs Jun 2018 #4

I don't see where I said anything about reasoning with them Cary Jun 2018 #12

What do you think the consequences should be? Marengo Jun 2018 #25

I didnt say, did I? Cary Jun 2018 #39

Aha, so you want troops torching the homes of Trump voters. Got it. Would that include all... Marengo Jun 2018 #62

It's not nice to put words in people's mouths Cary Jun 2018 #64

You said Sherman's March to the Sea melman Jun 2018 #78

Never mind that you don't consider the statement as a whole or the context Cary Jun 2018 #81

Your meaning is absolutely clear, and your lame attempt to deny it is what's genuinely funny here. Marengo Jun 2018 #80

(Read slowly) You don't say? Cary Jun 2018 #93

Yep, you advocate the use of military force against civilians who voted in a manner you don't... Marengo Jun 2018 #106

(Read slowly) Is that right? Cary Jun 2018 #116

I believe I read: George II Jun 2018 #96

I didn't see that either JustAnotherGen Jun 2018 #98

You seem also to have missed the reference to Sherman's March and martial law as precedent. Marengo Jun 2018 #105

No JustAnotherGen Jun 2018 #108

Ah, so you also believe military violence against civilians who didn't vote in a manner you of... Marengo Jun 2018 #115

It's beyond me how you missed the reference to Sherman's March as precedent. Marengo Jun 2018 #104

Sherman and his troops did many things during his march to the sea other than "torch homes"..... George II Jun 2018 #112

And how many of those other things would be appropriate action to be taken against civilians... Marengo Jun 2018 #114

Since even the uber-intelligent ones cant be reasoned with there is no solution. NoMoreRepugs Jun 2018 #38

Alas, we have given our best effort and that doesn't happen Cary Jun 2018 #43

I hate to say it Dyedinthewoolliberal Jun 2018 #5

That will get us far, right, elleng Jun 2018 #8

How did he win in the first place? treestar Jun 2018 #9

Nice gaslighting Cary Jun 2018 #10

Frank Bruni can fuck right off with his appeasement claptrap. Maven Jun 2018 #11

Exactly. Cary Jun 2018 #13

The fraction of Trump voters who regret their vote won't be influenced by posts on DU. Garrett78 Jun 2018 #17

What kind of person is not bothered by racism, corruption, sexism, etc. but bothered by bad words? ck4829 Jun 2018 #50

++1 Good question! lunasun Jun 2018 #103

From a good friend of mine on Facebook - A long read. GoneOffShore Jun 2018 #73

Thanks, GoneOffShore. elleng Jun 2018 #74

I would call them "lost" for a variety of reasons NRaleighLiberal Jun 2018 #15

That a low estimate for the percentage of evil, stupid, and ignorant samir.g Jun 2018 #16

So suggest some possible consequences that you'd support onenote Jun 2018 #18

personally, I'd go with banishment anarch Jun 2018 #27

I'm sorry, I wasnt aware of that rule... Cary Jun 2018 #41

I wasn't aware I was invoking a rule. Just asking you to make sense. onenote Jun 2018 #60

I made perfect sense. Cary Jun 2018 #63

I know you think so. That's kind of sad. onenote Jun 2018 #65

So I know not to ask you. Cary Jun 2018 #66

I'd wish they'd just leave and form their own country already. BlueStater Jun 2018 #67

And which states would become part of this new country? onenote Jun 2018 #68

So do you actually disagree with ANYTHING I sad about them being bad Americans? BlueStater Jun 2018 #70

Do I think they are "bad"? Some, sure. But mostly I think they're just wrong. onenote Jun 2018 #75

A good percentage of them this country would be far better off without. BlueStater Jun 2018 #88

Well, since you know they aren't going to be "gone", why not focus on what can be done onenote Jun 2018 #90

I'd be happy to be repatriated from Florida mcar Jun 2018 #100

I've known it since 1984 Awsi Dooger Jun 2018 #19

This is an accurate encapsulation of what I noticed in the workplace from about 1980 until now. dameatball Jun 2018 #26

Flawed individuals with no souls or humanity kimbutgar Jun 2018 #20

My brother had a great childhood and is still an idiot. But, you may still be right in general..:) dameatball Jun 2018 #28

They are irredeemable mcar Jun 2018 #21

Deplorable actually. n/t seaglass Jun 2018 #23

Since some of my family voted for the idiot... cynatnite Jun 2018 #30

When you go into a voting booth your vote is private kimbutgar Jun 2018 #35

He said he got caught up and thought the drumpf was it... cynatnite Jun 2018 #36

My hubby has a friend like that who got caught up in the twitler mania kimbutgar Jun 2018 #37

No shit MountCleaners Jun 2018 #31

As long as they can keep their guns and kacekwl Jun 2018 #32

I doubt that gun owners would comply with such a request fescuerescue Jun 2018 #72

Bad people, who will have to be defeated, rather than won back. (nt) Paladin Jun 2018 #34

Burying them under solid Democratic governance until the day the die ProudLib72 Jun 2018 #40

They can have no credibility, for sure. Cary Jun 2018 #42

If the "consequences" they should suffer is our winning elections in their jurisdictions onenote Jun 2018 #69

Because the new conservative movement, ProudLib72 Jun 2018 #71

63% of trumpeters say he should be prosecuted if he shoots James Comey. Cicada Jun 2018 #44

That's a lot of ignorant greedy bullies. lpbk2713 Jun 2018 #49

I think you give them too big a margin. Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #52

We don't vote Cary Jun 2018 #54

Not sure about you Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #56

Our base doesn't turn out. Cary Jun 2018 #58

You must have missed what happened in 2006, 2008 and 2012. bearsfootball516 Jun 2018 #76

What percentage of our base votes, versus angry white men and their spouses? Cary Jun 2018 #82

Of course we do. But you're claiming our base doesn't turn out, which isn't true. bearsfootball516 Jun 2018 #86

You knew what I meant. Cary Jun 2018 #87

You said, quote: "Our base doesn't turn out. That's a fact." bearsfootball516 Jun 2018 #89

Which part of "nothing you can say..." don't you understand? Cary Jun 2018 #92

I'm not trying to convince you of anything. bearsfootball516 Jun 2018 #94

Deplorables, to not coin a phrase. CanonRay Jun 2018 #77

Trevanian predicted the Trumpanzees decades ago. DFW Jun 2018 #79

Always has been, you just didn't noticed beachbum bob Jun 2018 #83

Yes but not exactly Cary Jun 2018 #85

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2018 #91

"30% to 40% of our electorate are bad people" should be... Yavin4 Jun 2018 #97

Win JustAnotherGen Jun 2018 #99

Half the eligible voters don't vote. Your numbers are off n/t leftstreet Jun 2018 #102

I think a large number of these folks are Fascists and don't know it. jalan48 Jun 2018 #107

Yep JustAnotherGen Jun 2018 #111

Hate fueled by the right wing media. I listened to about 5 minutes of a right wing talk show jalan48 Jun 2018 #113

I said that ages ago. RhodeIslandOne Jun 2018 #109

80 - 90% of our polling outfits are bad. Shitler doesn't have his 10%. Mc Mike Jun 2018 #118

My observation was casual. Cary Jun 2018 #119

Self defense is intelligent and necessary. Mc Mike Jun 2018 #120

Regardless they have caused immense damage Cary Jun 2018 #121

Agreed, they're like termites eating a stradivarius. Mc Mike Jun 2018 #122