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Showing Original Post only (View all)Can we at least learn basic math? Soledad O'Brien tweet about Sanders was deleted because of this [View all]
The MIC article she got it from used the word "proportionally" which O'Brien left out as wellAnd NO, this is not an OP in support of Sanders at all. I do NOT want him to run in 2020 for POTUS (I want Kamala Harris), and I wish a real, actual Democratic candidate would take the 2nd VT Senate seat he now holds.
I am writing this because I simply cannot believe the basic error and all the assumptions that came from people just buying into it were made.
Vermont has a HORRID racial disparity in terms in black v white incarceration rates, BUT, there are NOT 10 times as many blacks locked up in VT as there are walking the streets.
here is the link to the tweet (now deleted)
Link to tweet
this is
what it was, before she deleted it.

So
The current population of Vermonst is estimated at 623,960 in 2018
Using the MIC article own numbers
Black Vermonters make up just 1.2% of the state's general population
That means there are are 7488 African Americans living in Vermont.
As of 2017, the Vermont inmate population was 1722, TOTAL, for all races (and going down rapidly since 2008).
http://www.leg.state.vt.us/jfo/appropriations/fy_2018/FY2018%20Department%20Budgets/FY2018%20Department%20of%20Corrections%20Budget%20Presentation.pdf
The black incarceration rate in Vermont (per the MIC article O'Brien used), is 10.7%, which yields 184 African American inmates.
Even if you double that number (for African Americans in local jails temporarily)
368 is a FAR cry from the over 70 THOUSAND it would need to be to make Soledad's Tweet true, which is why she deleted it.
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Can we at least learn basic math? Soledad O'Brien tweet about Sanders was deleted because of this [View all]
Exotica
Jun 2018
OP
yes to a point, but a huge blunder like that doesn't help make the case, and makes it ripe for
Exotica
Jun 2018
#5
She doesn't need to "make the case." Bernie Sanders said something really stupid that demonstrated
EffieBlack
Jun 2018
#38
No, it's NOT on her. She's a journalist who sent out a tweet. That has NOTHING to do with what
EffieBlack
Jun 2018
#42
Not really. Not when she's literally saying there are 10 X more Black people in jail in Vermont
pnwmom
Jun 2018
#11
Her point is Vermont is a very white state -- which it is -- with a high proportion of incarcerated
Hoyt
Jun 2018
#17
Her math was not "a bit wrong". It was off by more than 20 thousand percent.
Tom Rinaldo
Jun 2018
#21
Then leave it at: "Black people are treated very differently than white people in Vermont."
Hoyt
Jun 2018
#23
That is a fair (and important) statement. Though it isn't only true for Vermont. n/t
Tom Rinaldo
Jun 2018
#26
Her point was -- "Black people are treated very differently than white people in Vermont."
Hoyt
Jun 2018
#24
Well, to be fair, how many of the 1700-ish are actually walking down the street at any given moment?
mr_lebowski
Jun 2018
#4
So, try to DO SOMETHING BOUT IT THEN, Bernie ... now that you finally know and all
mr_lebowski
Jun 2018
#7
What's tragic is that you consider the underlying message trivial enough to be laughable.
Squinch
Jun 2018
#60
Because of all those civil rights bona fides he earned at that sit-in fifty years ago?
Squinch
Jun 2018
#27
No, because its painfully fucking obvious to anyone with an average or better IQ.
phleshdef
Jun 2018
#32
So basically this is saying there is a disparity in which 10x as many blacks as whites by
Squinch
Jun 2018
#31
I don't know much about the numbers, but I'm in Vermont on an almost daily basis.
Vinca
Jun 2018
#16
Apparently you want a long list of every person I know who is not white, plus a tally of all
Vinca
Jun 2018
#56
You're the one who needed to give the tally of those two black people you know slightly or know of.
Squinch
Jun 2018
#59
You're not worth responding to, but I'm sure you're a "last worder," so have at it.
Vinca
Jun 2018
#61
I appreciate your sense of fairness and the importance of reliable informaton
Tom Rinaldo
Jun 2018
#19
Semantics, wrong about Vermont right about Sanders obtuseness regarding minority jailing ....
uponit7771
Jun 2018
#22
Yes, but pouncing on technical errors like that that don't actually change the argument is silly
kcr
Jun 2018
#29
Nice try at deflection. But it doesn't matter that Soledad misquoted a response to Bernie's quote.
EffieBlack
Jun 2018
#37
How is Soledad's tweet a "self-inflicted wound to people who are legitimately questioning Sanders?"
EffieBlack
Jun 2018
#47