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In reply to the discussion: It is time to flat out declare that 30% to 40% of our electorate are bad people [View all]GoneOffShore
(18,037 posts)73. From a good friend of mine on Facebook - A long read.
But worth it. It gives us insight into the minds of these people and how they are being manipulated.
It started on Day 1, when Biff announced his candidacy. The demonizing of Those People, especially Mexicans. The thing is, in the Trump cult, "Mexicans" has come to equal all immigrants, all refugees and basically all brown people. You know, the ones from shithole countries.
The demonizing of the Other leads to dehumanization, and we see what types of government action that leads to now, very clearly. The Muslim ban was just the beginning. His cult followers have been acting out on the rage-based bigotry since his campaign: hate crimes against anyone who even looks like they may not be a citizen (which in the cultist's eyes are all brown people) are up, sharply, as is race/ethnicity-based bullying in schools. Biff didn't create this white supremacist/nationalist rage, he just tapped into it and has stoked it nonstop.
Now we have families being ripped apart at the border. Families escaping horrifically violent circumstances, trying to save the lives of their children. We're not talking about people simply wanting a better economic circumstance -- they're fleeing death, hoping the country the world has always viewed as welcoming the world's tired, poor, huddled masses yearning to breathe free will provide refuge.
That action of ripping apart families is a Trump Administration policy. As is the decision yesterday to not even consider granting asylum to those fleeing domestic violence or gang violence.
Government agents tell these families they're taking the children to get cleaned up, but they never return.
One father was so distraught at his family being torn apart, he killed himself the same night.
A baby was torn away from her mom while breastfeeding.
Thousands of children are being held in "detention centers." (mirroring Japanese internment camps)
They're now investigating LEGAL immigrants for any reason to revoke citizenship.
If you're a Trump cultist (and make no mistake, at this point that's what this is; you're going to hear that term more and more so get used to it), you think it's okay because it doesn't impact you. But I refer you to Niemoller's First They Came poem.
Yet that isn't the point, is it? Most Trump cultists proclaim to be "good Christians" so they SHOULD care more about anyone being treated unfairly and inhumanely, not only themselves. But fear-based selfishness is a key trait of Trump cultists.
The comparisons to Hitler and the Nazis become more solid each day. Biff quite obviously envies dictators; he consistently praises them while demeaning allies in democracies. His praise of dictators isn't flattery or appeasement or strategy: IT'S ENVY.
It's Germany 1938.
There are Nazi cultists all around. Are you going to join them, push back against them, or cover your eyes and ears and ignore it all, hoping they don't get around to attacking you or yours? If you're one of them, God help you...
The people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders. All you have to do is tell them that they are in danger of being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.
Hermann Goering (bad guy)
The best political weapon is the weapon of terror. Cruelty commands respect. Men may hate us. But, we dont ask for their love; only for their fear. Heinrich Himmler (bad guy; this is why Trump loves and envies authoritarian dictators; democracy is for losers)
Nazism seemed to many just an extreme version of what [most Germans] had always believed in or taken for granted. It was nationalistic, respectful of the armed forces, socially conservative, disdainful of laziness, hostile to eccentric or incomprehensive ideas that came from cities, disapproving of homosexuals and other unconventional human types, and avid to achieve greatness for Germany. They welcomed parts of the Nazi political and social smorgasbord and told themselves that the rest was less important or was not meant seriously. Walter Rinderle and Bernard Norling, historians
Within the Nazi Party, the beginnings of a personality cult around Hitler go back to the year before the [Munich] putsch Outside these small groups of fanatical Bavarian Nazis, Hitlers image and reputation at this time so far as the wider German public took any notice of him at all was little more than that of a vulgar demagogue, capable of drumming up passionate opposition to the government among the Munich mob, but of little else. Ian Kershaw, historian (just as many here didn't take Biff or his fanatical rally-goers or right-wing media seriously)
Unless a man has talents to make something of himself, freedom is an irksome burden. Of what avail is freedom to choose if the self be ineffectual? We join a mass movement to escape individual responsibility, or, in the words of the ardent young Nazi, to be free from freedom. Eric Hoffer (writer)
Universal education is the most corroding and disintegrating poison that liberalism has ever invented for its own destruction. Adolf Hitler
Education is dangerous Every educated person is a future enemy. Hermann Goering
You get the idea...
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It is time to flat out declare that 30% to 40% of our electorate are bad people [View all]
Cary
Jun 2018
OP
That's a major fixation for a lot of people in the Democratic Party and on the "left"
Spider Jerusalem
Jun 2018
#46
And if the victim were a liberal Democrat, they would hold a parade for Trump. nt
Maven
Jun 2018
#24
Aha, so you want troops torching the homes of Trump voters. Got it. Would that include all...
Marengo
Jun 2018
#62
Your meaning is absolutely clear, and your lame attempt to deny it is what's genuinely funny here.
Marengo
Jun 2018
#80
Yep, you advocate the use of military force against civilians who voted in a manner you don't...
Marengo
Jun 2018
#106
You seem also to have missed the reference to Sherman's March and martial law as precedent.
Marengo
Jun 2018
#105
Ah, so you also believe military violence against civilians who didn't vote in a manner you of...
Marengo
Jun 2018
#115
Sherman and his troops did many things during his march to the sea other than "torch homes".....
George II
Jun 2018
#112
And how many of those other things would be appropriate action to be taken against civilians...
Marengo
Jun 2018
#114
Since even the uber-intelligent ones cant be reasoned with there is no solution.
NoMoreRepugs
Jun 2018
#38
The fraction of Trump voters who regret their vote won't be influenced by posts on DU.
Garrett78
Jun 2018
#17
What kind of person is not bothered by racism, corruption, sexism, etc. but bothered by bad words?
ck4829
Jun 2018
#50
So do you actually disagree with ANYTHING I sad about them being bad Americans?
BlueStater
Jun 2018
#70
Well, since you know they aren't going to be "gone", why not focus on what can be done
onenote
Jun 2018
#90
This is an accurate encapsulation of what I noticed in the workplace from about 1980 until now.
dameatball
Jun 2018
#26
My brother had a great childhood and is still an idiot. But, you may still be right in general..:)
dameatball
Jun 2018
#28
If the "consequences" they should suffer is our winning elections in their jurisdictions
onenote
Jun 2018
#69
Of course we do. But you're claiming our base doesn't turn out, which isn't true.
bearsfootball516
Jun 2018
#86