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kentuck

(115,407 posts)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 01:42 PM Aug 2012

Does Mitt Romney have a right to hide his income from the American people? [View all]

Democrats need to present this message in a very straightforward way. It is not good enough to ask, "What is he hiding?" or " "Mitt Romney doesn't want the people to see what is in his income tax returns". By talking about what he is hiding or that he doesn't want the people to see his tax returns diminishes the true issue.

The actual issue is "Does he have a right to hide his income from the American people?" Even if he were not running for President of the United States, he does not have the right to hide his income from the government. That is not legal. That is income tax evasion. That is why they put Al Capone in jail.

Yes, he may be only using legal loopholes. Still, we have a right to know what "loopholes" he is using. He does not have the right to hide his income, regardless of whether he is running for President or not? He must report it with the IRS.

Once again, we are lacking in the way we frame this issue. We know he is "hiding" the information. There is no dispute about that. The point that we must make is that he does not have the right to hide his income from the American people. It is important how we frame this issue. It is not about "tax returns" per se. It is about the people's right to know.

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Yeah he does. Makes him unelectable, though. pinto Aug 2012 #1
This.... Wounded Bear Aug 2012 #2
Precisely. pinto Aug 2012 #3
Are you saying? kentuck Aug 2012 #4
he has an absolute right to not release his tax records as a candidate for higher office unless you msongs Aug 2012 #5
"The loopholes are not secret"?? kentuck Aug 2012 #6
That's what the IRS is for. randome Aug 2012 #10
And if the IRS doesn't know...? kentuck Aug 2012 #15
It is not like we can narc him off to the IRS chknltl Aug 2012 #52
I don't think he fears, 'We the Voter' at all... kentuck Aug 2012 #53
Yep, we agree there for sure. chknltl Aug 2012 #64
You are so wrong. If he wants to be president of this country, savannah43 Aug 2012 #56
Romney may have the "right" to privacy with regard to his tax returns, JDPriestly Aug 2012 #63
Or has he invested in countries like Iran or Syria? kentuck Aug 2012 #65
No. He has the right to hide it from the public at large, not the IRS. And has to pay applicable tax pinto Aug 2012 #9
Do our elected representatives not have the right? kentuck Aug 2012 #23
? Missing your point kentuck. pinto Aug 2012 #34
Sorry... kentuck Aug 2012 #37
Right pinto, you've got it. elleng Aug 2012 #28
How does that make him unelectable? kentuck Aug 2012 #33
Unelectable on the ethics of it all. How folks vote is another matter. Go figure. pinto Aug 2012 #35
In other words, it should make him unelectable... kentuck Aug 2012 #39
Pig in a poke gulliver Aug 2012 #7
Don't the rubes have a right not to be stuck with a lemon? kentuck Aug 2012 #12
Ronald Reagan said it best. gulliver Aug 2012 #22
Better lawyers. pinto Aug 2012 #36
not if he expects to be president catbyte Aug 2012 #8
He has the right but he should not have. randome Aug 2012 #11
Yes, he does have that right. cthulu2016 Aug 2012 #13
rMoney and his buddies bought those legal loopholes, they have the right to use them fair-and- SDjack Aug 2012 #14
But if other morons vote him into office...? kentuck Aug 2012 #16
I think the IRS should audit him immediately! B Calm Aug 2012 #17
No. Zoeisright Aug 2012 #18
Yes -- and the American people have a right to hold it against him. rocktivity Aug 2012 #19
Of course he has the right to refuse to make his income public if he so chooses. WillowTree Aug 2012 #20
When he went into 'public service' he gave up certain rights. WI_DEM Aug 2012 #21
That isn't one of them. WillowTree Aug 2012 #25
What? cthulu2016 Aug 2012 #31
As a person, yes; as a candidate, no bhikkhu Aug 2012 #24
I agree. kentuck Aug 2012 #30
Hey Mittens one word: Transparency Please. southernyankeebelle Aug 2012 #26
Yes. And we have the right... liberalmuse Aug 2012 #27
I don't understand your conflation of releasing the tax returns and IRS enforcement activity tritsofme Aug 2012 #29
The IRS cannot enforce tax laws if... kentuck Aug 2012 #32
I still don't follow. If Romney misrepresented himself that is a matter for the IRS. tritsofme Aug 2012 #38
The IRS would be inhibited from auditing him... kentuck Aug 2012 #41
Tax LAWS are between him and the IRS. Buns_of_Fire Aug 2012 #46
His income isn't hidden from the government. Do you not deaniac21 Aug 2012 #40
Yes, he has already made an amendment to his 2010 filing... kentuck Aug 2012 #43
Yes he has that right but we also have the right to not vote for him Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #42
It is my opinion that... kentuck Aug 2012 #44
I agree, but there is no law to force that issue. Therefore he has the right Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #47
So, he has a right to hide his income from the people? kentuck Aug 2012 #48
Yes, that is how the law is. If we want transparency then we need to legislate it. Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #50
So, if we don't need to know the income of candidates...? kentuck Aug 2012 #51
Well, where a candidate was or wasn't born is a matter of constitutionality. WillowTree Aug 2012 #54
The laws are what the laws are. We can wish they were different but it does no good. Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #55
IMO, he shouldn't have that right ProfessionalLeftist Aug 2012 #45
But it isn't and would take a constitutional amendment to require it. WillowTree Aug 2012 #57
These are human beings, not dogs, you have NO right to their private medical information RB TexLa Aug 2012 #67
That the way it should have been when Tom Eagleton was disqualified... kentuck Aug 2012 #68
You've obviously never applied for a gov't job ProfessionalLeftist Aug 2012 #69
There are only three requirements of presidential candidates. tritsofme Aug 2012 #70
do you think that the tax returns of every person employed by the government should be public? onenote Aug 2012 #72
Only presidential candidates. n/t ProfessionalLeftist Aug 2012 #82
Mitt can do whatever the hell he wants.. ananda Aug 2012 #49
It not about income as it is the source of that income.... Historic NY Aug 2012 #58
Sure. He can do whatever he wants. But we all need to remember this - Avalux Aug 2012 #59
You've been going on about this all week... RevStPatrick Aug 2012 #60
Thank you for your clarification. kentuck Aug 2012 #61
Mitt Romney is not going to be our next president. RevStPatrick Aug 2012 #62
That's your opinion. kentuck Aug 2012 #66
If we ask for it, then he should answer ecstatic Aug 2012 #71
From the American people? 99Forever Aug 2012 #73
Of course. As a private citizen. If he wants a fucking job from us, however, Marr Aug 2012 #74
rich Democratic candidates HAVE released theirs,though... right? w8liftinglady Aug 2012 #75
If he gets arrested Politicalboi Aug 2012 #76
I want to know if there are any personal conflicts of interest aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2012 #77
Sure he does. mysuzuki2 Aug 2012 #78
not if he's running for President he doesn't ibegurpard Aug 2012 #79
no madrchsod Aug 2012 #80
NO, NO, NO............ mrmpa Aug 2012 #81
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