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DesertRat

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8. Hope this helps:

Fri Jun 22, 2018, 05:24 PM

Jun 2018

The policy to separate parents and children is new and was instituted on 4/6/2018. It was the brainchild of John Kelly and Stephen Miller to serve as a deterrent for undocumented immigration, approved by Trump, and adopted by Sessions. Prior administrations detained migrant families, but didn’t have a practice of forcibly separating parents from their children unless the adults were deemed unfit.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1049751/download?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/was-law-separate-families-passed-1997/

Trump's assertion that he hates this policy but has no choice but to separate the parents from their children, because the Democrats "gave us this law" is false and nothing more than propaganda designed to compel negotiation on bad policy. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-democrats-us-border-migrant-families-children-parents-mexico-separate-a8401521.html

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Some help please. A friend keeps bellyaching about how President Obama put kids in cages. [View all] calimary Jun 2018 OP

And your friend supposedly knew that and did nothing?? C_U_L8R Jun 2018 #1

Here ya' go... UncleTomsEvilBrother Jun 2018 #2

Here's an explanation. writes3000 Jun 2018 #3

Unfortunately, this link shows your friend wasn't wrong MichMan Jun 2018 #10

Temporary before finding other places...different thing entirely...these were unacompanied minors... Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #15

Even though that is the case, cooldude Jun 2018 #21

It is the case...and we can certainly explain the differences...and Obama is a Democrat. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #27

if you're explaining, you're losing 0rganism Jun 2018 #33

I don't agree with that...no one is perfect and when the GOP is lying you have to explain. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #35

Sorry, I should have said cooldude Jun 2018 #39

A wave of mercuryblues Jun 2018 #38

Welcome to DU, cooldude. calimary Jul 2018 #45

no it doesn't. Trump's policy and intention was to separate children from their parents still_one Jun 2018 #40

snopes OKNancy Jun 2018 #4

+1000 smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #19

Get better "friends". gibraltar72 Jun 2018 #5

Snopes posts it as True -- But. byronius Jun 2018 #6

Great point hurl Jun 2018 #9

I don't know about cages but virgogal Jun 2018 #7

That is untrue...it was a big deal...try google. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #12

Post removed Post removed Jun 2018 #13

More likely some people feel the need to attack a great Democratic president who was hamstrung by Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #16

Hope this helps: DesertRat Jun 2018 #8

No President did not put kids in cages...families were no separated. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #11

I don't think it was people seeking asylum? pwb Jun 2018 #14

most of those separated by Trump's policy are also seeking asylum. Ms. Toad Jun 2018 #30

Jeh Johnson was Homeland Security Chief under Obama. He's been all over CNN/NBC/MSNBC hlthe2b Jun 2018 #17

I don't think that's whataboutism Nevernose Jun 2018 #18

I'd discourage them from voting. hunter Jun 2018 #20

Obama's not the president anymore Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #22

Try this one: "So you're saying that Trump is just as bad as Obama? My god!" byronius Jun 2018 #23

Cages is a red herring it's the kidnapping that's the issue, don't let then change the subject uponit7771 Jun 2018 #24

100,000 people kept prisoner by the Navy...concentration camps and you want to talk about Obama... Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #25

Why is your friend so determined to give Trump a free pass? emulatorloo Jun 2018 #26

Some people are "unreachable".Save your breath. Va Lefty Jun 2018 #28

Calimary lunatica Jun 2018 #29

"I don't know whether children were put in cages during the Obama Administration cyclonefence Jun 2018 #31

Ask for facts to back up bdamomma Jun 2018 #32

response depends a lot on context of the conversation 0rganism Jun 2018 #34

It's been a couple of days and I just wanted to thank everybody who responded. calimary Jun 2018 #36

Obama admin didn't have a no exception policy on JAILING kids in cages. Kids were there after influx uponit7771 Jun 2018 #41

Two words: PROVE IT! GoCubsGo Jun 2018 #37

Essentially he is right, and wrong Lee-Lee Jun 2018 #42

They need to keep the lies straight. I've heard Dubya and Clinton blamed too. ck4829 Jun 2018 #43

The cage-like detention centers existed during the Obama presidency oberliner Jun 2018 #44

WOW, you guys - THANK YOU! calimary Jul 2018 #46

They claim Obama put kids in cages and wants open borders dembotoz Jul 2018 #47