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11. To let them know that their actions have consequences

Wed Jun 27, 2018, 10:52 PM

Jun 2018

To let them know it was and is not ok to bring their bigoted, racist opinions out of the closet.

They are doing this now and being so bold because they live in a bibbleand are told that theor beliefs are right and that they are a majority.

They need to know this is not the case.

I dont expect that they are going to become Liberal or not racist regardless of whether I’m civil or uncivil, but they need to know that its not ok to be the way they are and to hurt people the way they are doing.

We will not win these people over by reaching out and being nice to them.

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To those who think we should be "uncivil" to the Trump folks, a simple question: [View all] brooklynite Jun 2018 OP

Fuck civility! LW1977 Jun 2018 #1

I just think some people have a different point of view that contradict human history. Chickensoup Jun 2018 #15

You pretty much summed it up for me. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #24

That's my stance. Atman Jun 2018 #49

I want to make them hurt. Still In Wisconsin Jun 2018 #2

It's a no win situation madaboutharry Jun 2018 #3

what has the high road done for us? We look weak. period. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2018 #4

This!!!!!!! eom get the red out Jun 2018 #77

You may remember that Obama guy mythology Jun 2018 #88

That the merry band of thieves is undoing as fast as they can. lapislzi Jun 2018 #106

True atreides1 Jun 2018 #109

Exactly. The high road in some instances mean that you are alone jrthin Jun 2018 #115

5. Gain control of the narrative ProudLib72 Jun 2018 #5

Bingo pandr32 Jun 2018 #14

That's right ProudLib72 Jun 2018 #19

+1. Why let them dictate our behavior? dalton99a Jun 2018 #17

+1 0rganism Jun 2018 #37

Right now this thread is playing to theirs Lordquinton Jun 2018 #50

Agreed lunatica Jun 2018 #125

so now the narrative is about who can kick who out of a restaurant, instead of about a thousand TheFrenchRazor Jun 2018 #133

one shuns that which is unworthy of association. Bernie brings McConnell to my restaurant to dine... msongs Jun 2018 #6

You must have your Sanders mixed up, It's Sarah that got the boot Lordquinton Jun 2018 #53

She's responding to what Bernie said it about it. deurbano Jun 2018 #57

Either would not be welcome in my home or business if I owned one. 47of74 Jun 2018 #58

Thanks elleng Jun 2018 #7

K&R backtoblue Jun 2018 #8

I am so sorry that you are missing the entire point. To explain it Chickensoup Jun 2018 #9

Would you be civil to someone who put your child in a cage. No you wouldn't. njhoneybadger Jun 2018 #10

very good point. Chickensoup Jun 2018 #16

Thank you MaryMagdaline Jun 2018 #86

To let them know that their actions have consequences vi5 Jun 2018 #11

Shunning is part of Christian Fundamentalism. Lars39 Jun 2018 #28

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2018 #12

"so have your questions been answered Troll?" I think it is pretty obvious who the troll is still_one Jun 2018 #23

Frankly, I could care less about them... cynatnite Jun 2018 #13

Exactly. Scruffy1 Jun 2018 #61

Forcing nasty, openly racist and/or bigoted behavior back under the bridge ecstatic Jun 2018 #18

+1 leftstreet Jun 2018 #21

Because. They are paper tigers. They are on the offensive because we have shown smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #20

Kneeling to protest police brutality and the murder of POC is very civil. Solly Mack Jun 2018 #22

Choices #1 an 2 are out of the question. world wide wally Jun 2018 #25

One of each. n/t raven mad Jun 2018 #26

Showing them what it is like to take what they dish out. wasupaloopa Jun 2018 #27

To stand up to the bullies that they are treestar Jun 2018 #29

It's all moot. They run the show now, and will for a long time. VOX Jun 2018 #30

Agree 1000%. Lint Head Jun 2018 #31

Why do you think ... NanceGreggs Jun 2018 #32

None of your choices.... Moostache Jun 2018 #33

Yes!!!! Tumbulu Jun 2018 #56

I agree with you, I think. Shemp Howard Jun 2018 #34

yep; apparently, saying "they did it first" makes it all good. nt TheFrenchRazor Jun 2018 #38

It's not uncivil to say your analogy is false & shows a lack understanding AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2018 #62

it is you who lack understanding; kicking somebody out of a restaurant does nothing to change the TheFrenchRazor Jun 2018 #71

The restaurant owner had the ABSOLUTE RIGHT to NoMoreRepugs Jun 2018 #108

you changed the subject; nobody is saying she didn't have the right. nt TheFrenchRazor Jun 2018 #132

I do not respect & tolerate people who condone child abuse, cheating, racism, etc. I'm tired of them AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2018 #35

but Mom...they did it first!!! it's great to see that the democratic party is the party of ideas and TheFrenchRazor Jun 2018 #36

"infantile temper tantrum" - is that how you frame it? The WH is staffed by Nazis & racists. No way AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2018 #42

see #71. nt TheFrenchRazor Jun 2018 #72

To Make Racism and Fascism Shameful Again! Tatiana Jun 2018 #39

Yes. Social shaming is a useful tool MaryMagdaline Jun 2018 #84

It shouldn't be framed as "uncivil". It's a matter of calling out racism, child abuse, etc. AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2018 #40

might there be a better place to do that than in a restaurant? how much time/energy has been TheFrenchRazor Jun 2018 #73

Showing appropriate moral outrage. You present four false choices. c-rational Jun 2018 #41

Four false choices are presented, framed in a way to shame people, rather than moral outrage &action AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2018 #43

+1000 smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #64

Trump supporters need to be ostracized standingtall Jun 2018 #44

Post removed Post removed Jun 2018 #45

+1000 smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #70

K&R MaryMagdaline Jun 2018 #85

Wow, you sound tough. Tipperary Jun 2018 #99

You don't know dick about me for one. No fucking clue where and how I grew up. Nor the Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2018 #100

Lol. Tipperary Jun 2018 #111

here is the response DonCoquixote Jun 2018 #46

Exactly Raine Jun 2018 #47

Civility is not the issue. People are using "civil" because that is the way it is framed. Caliman73 Jun 2018 #48

They even use it against their own when necessary - I'm not sure what we are not getting tulipsandroses Jun 2018 #67

Why only those four choices? Atman Jun 2018 #51

You're in good company Lordquinton Jun 2018 #52

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. czarjak Jun 2018 #54

I may not be uncivil but I won't be civil either. KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2018 #55

I'll be uncivil all day long to them. 47of74 Jun 2018 #59

Fighting back Liberalhammer Jun 2018 #60

5 - None of the Above- These People are still using Lee Atwater's Playbook - tulipsandroses Jun 2018 #63

5. Show a fighting spirit. Adrahil Jun 2018 #65

the holocaust really happened KT2000 Jun 2018 #66

Failure to mount a vigorous resistance would make liberals complicit radius777 Jun 2018 #68

Totally agree. Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #69

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2018 #75

Vigorous resistance should be non-violent, radius777 Jun 2018 #78

They talk violence. We don't. marble falls Jun 2018 #83

Encouraging other to be violent? Gee, who does that? FSogol Jun 2018 #91

I'm not encouraging anyone to be violent. My post refers to THEM being that way. Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #116

My post wasn't in response to you, but was in response to reply #75 FSogol Jun 2018 #117

I gotcha. Ty. Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #118

You know civility can be used to mask or deflect from heinousness... so riddle me this.. JHan Jun 2018 #74

One and 2 are impossible get the red out Jun 2018 #76

Enjoy being a good German dembotoz Jun 2018 #79

Maggot lovers have left us MFM008 Jun 2018 #80

So are we forever destined Skidmore Jun 2018 #81

push back onethatcares Jun 2018 #82

The very fact that you ask this question tells me that you are able to tolerate babies in cages MaryMagdaline Jun 2018 #87

none of the above quaker bill Jun 2018 #89

Sadly, too many get caught up in lashing out in anger mythology Jun 2018 #90

To make them shut the fuck up. n/t LuckyCharms Jun 2018 #92

At this point being civil... Takket Jun 2018 #93

I have a question GusBob Jun 2018 #94

I posted one question with the only four answers I could think of brooklynite Jun 2018 #96

Yes I know GusBob Jun 2018 #97

Waking up the silent middle...the Good Germans n/t OneGrassRoot Jun 2018 #95

Excellent question. Tipperary Jun 2018 #98

Which of the four options in the OP does your reponse illustrate? LanternWaste Jun 2018 #104

My "reponse?" I assume you mean my response. Tipperary Jun 2018 #110

Seems your pre-determined responses can be applied LanternWaste Jun 2018 #101

THIS: hlthe2b Jun 2018 #102

It's ok to be uncivil to racist pigs ... stonecutter357 Jun 2018 #103

I think too many people... quickesst Jun 2018 #105

Neville Chamberlain lives! GoCubsGo Jun 2018 #107

"Democrats keep pretending there are rules." Paladin Jun 2018 #112

There, I disagree. Caliman73 Jun 2018 #119

John Kerry got Swiftboated 15 years ago by the Republicans. Paladin Jun 2018 #120

So we are staring with Binary thinking? Caliman73 Jun 2018 #121

I'm advocating that we fight the Republicans at their own low level, for the time being. Paladin Jun 2018 #124

I wish people would quit telling us to be Good Germans. MrsCoffee Jun 2018 #113

I am not trying to accomplish any of the 4 items you listed. jrthin Jun 2018 #114

To the pittypats and schoolmarms gratuitous Jun 2018 #122

Anything that might upset their tax cuts? nt RandiFan1290 Jun 2018 #134

Number 3 lunatica Jun 2018 #123

5. I'm trying to show them that I'm tired of double standards Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #126

Personally hermetic Jun 2018 #127

What, exactly, has the high road got us? Va Lefty Jun 2018 #128

Shunning is an effective nonviolent means of punishing those who behave in socially tblue37 Jun 2018 #129

I'm at the point rownesheck Jun 2018 #130

fuck trump voters they afre a lost cause gopiscrap Jun 2018 #131