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In reply to the discussion: "Now is not the time for a gun debate" [View all]davepc
(3,936 posts)53. Unconsitiutional. Minneapolis Star Tribune Company v. Commissioner
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Don Lemon, a CNN host went on and on about the same thing yesterday
aint_no_life_nowhere
Aug 2012
#182
"More people currently favor gun rights than favor gun control." Gotta citation for that claim?
Scuba
Aug 2012
#6
We can protect gun rights while still having some meaningul restrictions/regulations
AllyCat
Aug 2012
#48
Yeah, but all that military doesn't make me feel any safer. Medicare for All would though.
Scuba
Aug 2012
#64
We are a nation that is scared to death because it benefits those that manufacture....
Raster
Aug 2012
#192
There are "gun rights" and "gun abuse." We've been protecting the latter too long.
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#69
How about instead of a ban we just check up on anyone that purchases a ridiculously high amount
Trunk Monkey
Aug 2012
#188
That's not a good enough reason. And btw, I rather doubt they appointed you as their spokesperson
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2012
#229
Wow, it didn't take long for the "I'm a gun owner too" cloaking device to come off
Trunk Monkey
Aug 2012
#254
7/10. A somewhat effective appeal to emotion. One question, though:
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2012
#233
Where *did* you get your degree in telepsychology? And are you currently licensed to practice in WI?
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2012
#269
Neither this poll nor the other one cited by Jeff in Milwaukee back up your claim.
Scuba
Aug 2012
#24
The last two polls decisively show that "most Americans do not favor MORE gun control".
OneTenthofOnePercent
Aug 2012
#44
It would probably drop to pre-prohibition levels if we ended the War on Drugs. Quickly too.
davepc
Aug 2012
#107
The laws written in the 1930s and 1960s address firearm designs from the 1850's just fine.
davepc
Aug 2012
#174
Maybe it's time to reverse that trend like we did for views on tobacco; bank fraud; pollution; etc.
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#85
In addition to reversing public opinion... don't forget to repeal that one amendment in the BoR.
OneTenthofOnePercent
Aug 2012
#129
there is no right to manufacture guns and there is no right to purchase ammunition.
Warren Stupidity
Aug 2012
#14
If "sensible regulation" means "new regulations that *I* want", you are very likely correct...
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2012
#231
They would have a harder time of it if reproductive rights were explicity added to the Consitution.
davepc
Aug 2012
#45
If ammo was scarce people wouldn't be able to plink away every weekend.
Spitfire of ATJ
Aug 2012
#42
She's standing right next to me shooting as well. Both my kids are with me too. nt
hack89
Aug 2012
#159
What does that have to do with positing an unconsitutional solution to a problem?
davepc
Aug 2012
#118
Since 2008 there have been over 1 BILLION rounds of ammuntion a year sold in this country
Trunk Monkey
Aug 2012
#137
ammunition manufacture is also regulated and that regulation can be expanded.
Warren Stupidity
Aug 2012
#52
reply to self: no I will not provide details. The details will be cross examined for inaccuracies.
Warren Stupidity
Aug 2012
#72
Your ridiculous plan would have the immediate and dramatic effect of making guns unavailable...
slackmaster
Aug 2012
#110
"Sensible" = "what I, WS, thinks is suitable for others to own". We've seen this before:
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2012
#232
Where in our history of laws does it say that corporations have the same rights as citizens?
jillan
Aug 2012
#210
"Settled" to some degree -- "Reasonable" guns in home, is about all those cases addressed.
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#92
Please, explain how the firearms in lawful hands has "trumped" any of your rights...
PavePusher
Aug 2012
#80
Uh. I'm the one who said lets wait to see what happened in WI to determine how to deter it.
aikoaiko
Aug 2012
#98
And after we wait and see, you will reject any argument to increase regulation.
Warren Stupidity
Aug 2012
#109
Actaully, the NRA worked with us to reinforce the NICS system after Virginia Tech.
aikoaiko
Aug 2012
#149
"Why do you act like gun rights supporters are opposed to any regulation?" They're not what HE wants
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2012
#234
Rates of violent crime have been on a downward trend for almost 20 years now
slackmaster
Aug 2012
#18
I took a screengrab of that post- it illustrates how 'liberal' gun controllers can be...
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2012
#283
Yet, the gun culture is still promoting arming up as the only way to "protect" yourself.
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#97
America seems to have matured a bit on this and no longer goes in for hysterical anti-gun
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#19
Yeah, maturity. Or numbness and hopelessness that anything will ever change to make us safer.
TwilightGardener
Aug 2012
#27
Since those bans have been shown to be quite expensive but don't make us any safer
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#29
If a ban saves one life, it's worth it. But don't worry, pal. Arm yourself to the teeth. We only
TwilightGardener
Aug 2012
#35
Proving that something DIDN'T happen is hard. That doesn't mean it didn't work in some cases.
TwilightGardener
Aug 2012
#43
If murder rates had gone down that would be seen as conclusive proof that it worked
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#58
There's a lot of places where you can't own large wild animals, such as tigers. Most people have
TwilightGardener
Aug 2012
#71
I didn't realize Tiger-assaults were such a major problem in the US
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#73
Do you think people should just be allowed to own whatever dangerous item they want?
TwilightGardener
Aug 2012
#78
You do know that the NRA supported the strengthening of the background check after Va Tech?
hack89
Aug 2012
#163
It's an item that serves no purpose other than to kill multiple people at once.
TwilightGardener
Aug 2012
#93
Hand guns can be used for personal protection without having the added capacity
TwilightGardener
Aug 2012
#147
Violent crime in general is down. Does that mean there is nothing to be addressed, when
TwilightGardener
Aug 2012
#190
"use the police as a standard"? How many rounds do they own in their homes?
AnotherMcIntosh
Aug 2012
#172
if the only problem with guns were suicide you might have a point. nt.
Warren Stupidity
Aug 2012
#152
Alcohol contributes to drunk driving, domestic abuse, child abuse, suicide, etc
hack89
Aug 2012
#166
Same with cigarettes, booze, recreational drugs, fatty foods, processed sugars, etc
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#132
Yes. And society needs to view guns like tobacco, pollution, fatty foods, confederate flags, etc.
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#222
How does it tax your freedom and hurt us economically by a gun nut not being able to
TwilightGardener
Aug 2012
#74
To refer to such a narrow example, you'll need to provide specifics...
OneTenthofOnePercent
Aug 2012
#116
You could argue that almost any dangerous item should be allowed until it is proven to cause
TwilightGardener
Aug 2012
#141
In terms of owning an arsenal or stockpile of ammo, I think the chief threat there
TwilightGardener
Aug 2012
#162
"The line exists, it is easily drawn." Then draw it, O Wise One- but support your work.
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2012
#237
Since those bans have been shown to be quite expensive but don't make us any safer
AlbertCat
Aug 2012
#40
Don't you think our resources would be better spent on things that at the very least haven't been pr
AlbertCat
Aug 2012
#117
NRA and gun culture want us to put it off another decade -- another 100 million guns to deal with.
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#103
Those RANCID. PESTILENTIAL. MORONIC. WHORES!!! and their suppurating BLABBER! How dare they!!!!!!!!
patrice
Aug 2012
#181
And that IS one of the things that DROVE this country into an ILLEGAL & IMMORAL war against Iraq ...
patrice
Aug 2012
#202
If we keep telling ourselves that, we are giving up power to the NRA. If enough of us stand
jillan
Aug 2012
#211
all the lead they handle has eroded their higher brain functions. They are left largely as feeble,
DainBramaged
Aug 2012
#200
The fact that you need to bring the NRA into any gun arguement is telling.
Pacafishmate
Aug 2012
#256
First of all, I hate guns, period. But the latest shootings have shown that the individuals were
IndyJones
Aug 2012
#223