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PoindexterOglethorpe

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41. I do understand the generic ballot poll.

Tue Jul 3, 2018, 06:41 PM

Jul 2018

You don't need to be patronizing. But I've seen this in the past, the generic Democrat beats the generic Republican up until election day.

I'm an optimist in my daily life. And I'm not a defeatist, not by any means. I am a realist, but I keep on seeing chickens being counted before the eggs are even laid, to coin a phrase. People here start being gleeful over what Dems will do next January when we take control of Congress. It's so far from a done deal that I can't believe some of what I'm reading here.

Polls, especially exit polls back before so much early voting, used to be astonishingly accurate. For various reasons they got less accurate over time. And didn't all the polling showing Hillary winning in 2016? Winning the Electoral College, that is.

Me? I've been in the trenches. I've even run for office, for a state house seat in a very Republican state. I lost, but did well enough that the Democrat who ran for that seat two years later won.

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May I Attempt to Predict America's Political Future? [View all] louis c Jul 2018 OP

I think you're spot on. NT SWBTATTReg Jul 2018 #1

I sort of agree, but the key line is "Democracy will bail us out" el_bryanto Jul 2018 #2

That is, in fact, their plan RandomAccess Jul 2018 #40

The pendulum will swing.... spanone Jul 2018 #3

"Democracy" got us here in the first place. Rustynaerduwell Jul 2018 #4

That's a defeatist attitude louis c Jul 2018 #7

Pointing out Gerrymandering PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2018 #24

Gerrymandering doesn't mean shit if you win the generic by 16 points louis c Jul 2018 #26

Help me out here. Where has someone won a PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2018 #28

Let me give you a little PolySci class louis c Jul 2018 #33

But people won't be voting a generic ballot come November. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2018 #38

I'm sorry you don't understand louis c Jul 2018 #39

I do understand the generic ballot poll. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2018 #41

Re-Read your post 28 and tell me you understand the generic ballot louis c Jul 2018 #42

Democrats lost '80, '84 & '88 Pres elections by wide margins. Since then, they've won. 7962 Jul 2018 #21

I didn't say More Americans voted for the Democratic Presidential candidate, Rustynaerduwell Jul 2018 #30

Right. When you said "national", just presidential came to mind. 7962 Jul 2018 #35

...Which is why we need to get rid of the electoral callege...n/t GetRidOfThem Jul 2018 #25

BIG barrier to this future: GOP blocks on voting supported by SCOTUS!! bobbieinok Jul 2018 #5

We will have so many votes, it can't be stopped louis c Jul 2018 #6

A hopeful read on the current situation... Wounded Bear Jul 2018 #8

I think you are correct and with the pre-existing conditions suit which GOP's don't want either... Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #9

+1. Overreach keyword. But must guard integrity of democracy: secure vote, X suppress, X gerrymander Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #10

Your last statement sums it up well.... paleotn Jul 2018 #11

The fear of economic collapse was an important part of 2008 GE (NY) louis c Jul 2018 #19

That certainly didn't hurt Obama's chances... paleotn Jul 2018 #37

I'm not as concerned about average Republicans. Lonestarblue Jul 2018 #12

Sadly I'm not so sure keepFocused06 Jul 2018 #13

This is a bright and hopeful version of the future bronxiteforever Jul 2018 #14

I hope to God you're right nt Mountain Mule Jul 2018 #15

If they get to vote TrogL Jul 2018 #16

Yup. GOP/conservative overreach. It's in their DNA. oasis Jul 2018 #17

Only if we can overcome the Bogeyman label bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #18

In other words - it'll get a lot worse before it gets better. Great! n/t SpankMe Jul 2018 #20

I'm afraid so. louis c Jul 2018 #22

For every legal roadblock, there are workarounds if people work together jmbar2 Jul 2018 #23

Given that surveys show that people tend to favor PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2018 #27

You really hit it with that last paragraph. 7962 Jul 2018 #36

DC Repubs are governing as if this their final chance to remake America in their image. LonePirate Jul 2018 #29

Yes and with anger should come retribution. Impeach Roberts and Gorsuch, no respect for precedent. Pepsidog Jul 2018 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author Pepsidog Jul 2018 #32

If the San Diego court's ruling to return children in 30 days is ignored, we'll see what teeth the ancianita Jul 2018 #34