Democrats: Quit listening to "civility" scolds and concern trolls: This is an emergency

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11. I agree with Marcotte, except for the "emergency" thing.

Civility, like many other concepts that the right wingers try to corrupt for their purposes, is a vague term. It means whatever you want it to mean. Obviously calling someone an "asshole" or "shit head" or one of the many gender or race loaded words, is not civil. Telling someone they are acting like a fascist when they are in fact acting like a fascist, or telling them that they should be ashamed of themselves for defending a policy attacking Mexicans and other Latinos, while eating at a Mexican restaurant; is certainly assertive and even aggressive but it is protest and as such there is always a contextual element in judging it. Republicans know this but they excel in making themselves into victims for things that they do repeatedly and in worse ways.

I do think that there is room to discuss the issue however. Noting that nothing done to Miller, Neilsen, or Huckabee-Sanders and nothing said by Congresswoman Maxine Waters was in anyway "over the line". We do need to police ourselves so that we do not cross the line into violence and making threats. That is what right wingers do and we should not venture into their territory of being complete assholes. NOT because it "gives them ammunition", they do not need ammunition. They lie, steal, kill, and do everything to maintain their fleeting grasp on power, they don't need "harsh words" from a Congresswoman to cry victim hood. We don't do it because it is incredibly difficult to claim righteousness when you have engaged in threats, violence, and killing, even when you think your cause is righteous. The right wingers think that what they are doing is righteous in the name of Jesus and America. They are wrong and we all know it. We are fighting for the survival of our way of life, but we shouldn't throw out the tenets of our way of life to save our way of life.

We need to be out there, in the streets in the faces of Miller, Neilsen, Huckabee-Sanders, Trump, and all his family. We need to tell them the truth. They are disgusting people who are destroying the "American Way" and traitors and kidnappers, and bigots, and everything else, and we need to remind them of that at the mall, restaurants, movies, or wherever else they go in public. We need to do it in ways that are not violent and destructive.