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14. and why are we presuming she isn't?

Sat Jul 7, 2018, 04:57 PM

Jul 2018

...and why are so many here focused on attacking this Democratic candidate like she's superfluous?

Her own primary is over.

When did it become improper to help other Democratic candidates over the line??

The stretch to criticize her for this is remarkably ill-conceived.

I mean, on one hand, you remind that there are still races open. On the other you suggest she needs to move on. It's clear she can't win with some folks. That's unfortunate and extremely self-defeating in the long run.

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AOC: "There's a secret little word used to dismiss political candidates: 'viability.'" [View all] bigtree Jul 2018 OP

In the KGOP circle, unviable candidates would be termed outsiders, which is a good thing. ffr Jul 2018 #1

kick bigtree Jul 2018 #2

Post removed Post removed Jul 2018 #3

this is a baffling take on what she said bigtree Jul 2018 #4

"FOR MY ENTIRE RACE I WASN'T 'VIABLE' ENOUGH Hortensis Jul 2018 #6

It's how I read it, too mcar Jul 2018 #9

how is this an attack on Democrats? The primary is over bigtree Jul 2018 #11

Actually the NYS primaries are not over. lapucelle Jul 2018 #13

and why are we presuming she isn't? bigtree Jul 2018 #14

Your OP is the answer to that. +1000 to Lapucelle. Hortensis Jul 2018 #17

Actually, I said I'd like to see her do both. lapucelle Jul 2018 #22

from what I can see, she is doing both. bigtree Jul 2018 #39

I haven't heard her endorse any of our Democratic congressional candidates here on LI yet. lapucelle Jul 2018 #43

I wonder if those candidates would be amenable as you to an endorsement bigtree Jul 2018 #113

We have a strategy meeting this week for our congressional races. lapucelle Jul 2018 #115

That's a very big factor on why the turnout last week was a mere 11%. Many voters were confused.... George II Jul 2018 #25

bam! heaven05 Jul 2018 #84

maybe you need to look beyond these segmented posts bigtree Jul 2018 #92

I won't really heaven05 Jul 2018 #98

that's just shocking bigtree Jul 2018 #100

I think it's incorrect to say lapucelle Jul 2018 #34

you can't have it both ways bigtree Jul 2018 #40

Please stop mischaracterizing what I've said. lapucelle Jul 2018 #78

excellent retort heaven05 Jul 2018 #85

I don't think it's at all accurate that she isn't engaged in 'fighting republicans' bigtree Jul 2018 #89

My news sources are reliable and varied. lapucelle Jul 2018 #95

I went and found a good interview for you (by no means the only one) bigtree Jul 2018 #96

She did fine. N/T lapucelle Jul 2018 #102

thanks for hanging in there with me, lapucelle bigtree Jul 2018 #104

I've spent the past 40 years of my life working for Democratic candidates. lapucelle Jul 2018 #114

Go Liuba! NY_20th Jul 2018 #110

We have a strategy meeting this week. lapucelle Jul 2018 #111

Democratics Dovided JustAnotherGen Jul 2018 #120

even with all caps you're still misreading it, misrepresenting what Ocasio-Cortez said bigtree Jul 2018 #10

She made those comments a few days after the Democratic primary.... George II Jul 2018 #28

The only truly mannered people in elective office Hortensis Jul 2018 #29

You know what's interesting is that Crowley was the Representative for that district... George II Jul 2018 #36

Christ you can't even get her name right. AtomicKitten Jul 2018 #60

Didn't ignore, missed. Hortensis Jul 2018 #77

So then you go ahead and do it again melman Jul 2018 #119

nothing is embarrassing heaven05 Jul 2018 #86

Zephyr Teachout has been a viable candidate in New York politics for years. lapucelle Jul 2018 #31

you can't be serious bigtree Jul 2018 #42

I am serious. I've voted for her. N/T lapucelle Jul 2018 #45

well that makes your criticisms all the more baffling and contradictory bigtree Jul 2018 #48

I'm not sure what you think I said, why you are framing it as "criticism", lapucelle Jul 2018 #51

this is where I got turned around bigtree Jul 2018 #106

I don't recall Zephyr ever winning much. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #57

+++ nt. heaven05 Jul 2018 #83

You are reading far too much into that statement. NY_20th Jul 2018 #109

What a bizarre conclusion. n/t demmiblue Jul 2018 #5

She knows what she's doing. Hortensis Jul 2018 #7

Oh, okay. demmiblue Jul 2018 #8

she also worked as a staffer to Ted Kennedy on immigration issues bigtree Jul 2018 #12

In 2008, Ms. Cortez would have been 18 years old. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #58

the '10 years' was from the cut-and paste. That's probably why you can't place her there. bigtree Jul 2018 #99

Trained under a true progressive Lordquinton Jul 2018 #49

Wow. Really? AtomicKitten Jul 2018 #52

What is your point with that comment and that picture? Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #108

Disturbing! mountain grammy Jul 2018 #121

This is nonsense melman Jul 2018 #15

Melman, seriously, I didn't start that way. Hortensis Jul 2018 #16

Please melman Jul 2018 #18

She's not trying to help the right. Hortensis Jul 2018 #20

You said melman Jul 2018 #26

"All politics are local, each district is different, lapucelle Jul 2018 #33

You're just accusing her of calling Democrats misogynist and racist muriel_volestrangler Jul 2018 #21

Trump wants to invade Venezuela. And may well. Hortensis Jul 2018 #23

All I have to say is 'wow'... demmiblue Jul 2018 #30

The implication I get is that she thinks many New Yorkers consider .... George II Jul 2018 #37

and a female US Senator JI7 Jul 2018 #53

Yes. She was appointed to the Senate by a black Governor, replacing female Senator Hillary Clinton. George II Jul 2018 #81

The 'implication' may be what you get but it is nowhere to be found in her actual words. melman Jul 2018 #55

So who is it that claimed her candidacy wasn't "viable" if it wasn't Democrats/Democratic voters? George II Jul 2018 #68

you know the landscape favored the incumbent. This isn't a mystery, George. bigtree Jul 2018 #101

I never saw any "media" questions about her viability, and yes, she's "responding" (not really.... George II Jul 2018 #107

this is specious bigtree Jul 2018 #112

I said that I haven't seen any media questions.... George II Jul 2018 #117

no, you base your comments on nothing but your own observations bigtree Jul 2018 #133

As do many of the people on DU, a discussion site. However, since Cortez has made... George II Jul 2018 #135

if George doesn't see it on DU, it must not exist bigtree Jul 2018 #136

Complete nonsense. demmiblue Jul 2018 #19

I agree. We're not supposed to consider the viability of a candidate? Teachout is great. Squinch Jul 2018 #27

she's clearly saying reconsider notions of viability bigtree Jul 2018 #38

I'd like to see her begin to use her voice to campaign against republicans. Squinch Jul 2018 #88

that's pretty much what she's doing bigtree Jul 2018 #93

Sorry. I'm mixing this thread with the other on the Common Dreams article that quotes OC Squinch Jul 2018 #94

here's an interview where she's doing just that bigtree Jul 2018 #97

I agree...she won and I want her to succeed. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #59

Calling it what it is! Wwcd Jul 2018 #79

true this! heaven05 Jul 2018 #82

...says the candidate who doesn't have to appeal to non-Democrats. brooklynite Jul 2018 #24

Very astute observation. N/T lapucelle Jul 2018 #32

The repugs putting that useless failure turd into office has eliminated all Mc Mike Jul 2018 #35

Not really. I totally believed in Obama but that didn't make him viable in west virginia JI7 Jul 2018 #41

actually, questions about Obama's viability weren't restricted to his winning in WVa bigtree Jul 2018 #44

He didn't compete there seriously. He knew he wasn't viable in WV JI7 Jul 2018 #46

I never heard him say such a self-defeating thing during his campaign bigtree Jul 2018 #47

No, he didn't seriously compete there JI7 Jul 2018 #50

Traditionally viability has been measured in dollars. AtomicKitten Jul 2018 #54

I'd like to see candidates request donation disclosure from dark money groups lapucelle Jul 2018 #80

Ok but after how many losses JNelson6563 Jul 2018 #56

Post removed Post removed Jul 2018 #61

"Hillary folks"? betsuni Jul 2018 #62

Post removed Post removed Jul 2018 #63

Junk food has nothing of substance to say. betsuni Jul 2018 #64

Betsuni doesn't mean junk food... TCJ70 Jul 2018 #69

It has to do with, like, existentialism. betsuni Jul 2018 #74

You didn't say anything of "substance". Cha Jul 2018 #66

Hillary WON.. the damn russians Rigged trump in.. Cha Jul 2018 #65

I don't deal in alternative facts. She lost. She got more votes... TCJ70 Jul 2018 #67

That's reality. Cha Jul 2018 #70

Simple question: Is she president? TCJ70 Jul 2018 #71

Deny it all you want.. it doesn't change Cha Jul 2018 #72

Agree. America chose Hillary, got Trump. Hortensis Jul 2018 #87

Well put, Hortensis! "America chose Hillary" and Cha Jul 2018 #91

Some can't resist coming out of left field to take a dig at Hillary. oasis Jul 2018 #73

Yeah, an Ignorant one. Those pesky FACTS don't deter them.. Cha Jul 2018 #76

So why do you think that Russia was backing Bernie? ehrnst Jul 2018 #90

K&R ck4829 Jul 2018 #75

really heaven05 Jul 2018 #103

The other secret little word is "ESTABLISHMENT" Wwcd Jul 2018 #105

It is interesting that the only other democratic contenders she has actively lapucelle Jul 2018 #116

It makes sense since they support the same issues. AtomicKitten Jul 2018 #122

ConservaDems?? Is that the new "secret little word"? Wwcd Jul 2018 #123

Brand New Congress ran a Republican in Arkansas, lapucelle Jul 2018 #125

Well that was gosh darned American of them isn't it Wwcd Jul 2018 #126

The basic criteria is they align with Sanders' platform. AtomicKitten Jul 2018 #140

Well now THAT explains even more about who & & why the Wwcd Jul 2018 #143

Thanks for the link.. disillusioned73 Jul 2018 #145

Brand New Congress runs Republican candidates. lapucelle Jul 2018 #124

Very revealing post! Glad I'm a just a regular Democrat. Wwcd Jul 2018 #127

Another issue is how they will govern. brer cat Jul 2018 #130

One Republican who aligned with Sanders' platform. AtomicKitten Jul 2018 #137

Thanks, but I got all the context I need by reading the pages they scrubbed lapucelle Jul 2018 #142

I'd love to know why fifteen dollars is the magic number (too low!) betsuni Jul 2018 #128

I indicated the list was limited and thus not excluding the other issues you mention. AtomicKitten Jul 2018 #138

"They don't believe in the same things.... George II Jul 2018 #129

There exists division on policy which inherently divides factions. AtomicKitten Jul 2018 #139

I've never seen it said "may the best faction win." The Democratic Party should not be.... George II Jul 2018 #141

+1000. (nt) ehrnst Jul 2018 #118

Thank you. NurseJackie Jul 2018 #131

Not many chirps heard in answer to my question. Wwcd Jul 2018 #132

She keeps singing a sweet tune! nt NCTraveler Jul 2018 #134

k&r.. disillusioned73 Jul 2018 #144