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Blue_true

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27. I wish Tammy hadn't said that.

Sat Jul 7, 2018, 06:38 PM

Jul 2018

So far recently, two of our best have shot themselves in the foot and will need to recover. So far Kamala Harris, Joe Kennedy III, Amy Klobuchar and Joe Biden have avoided that mistake.

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Working Class Politics 'Not Just for the Bronx': Ocasio-Cortez Debunks 'Too Far Left' [View all] guillaumeb Jul 2018 OP

Why don't you try it first, Tammy? northremembers Jul 2018 #1

Are you fucking kidding me? You're telling Tammy Duckworth to "fight for what you believe in"??? Squinch Jul 2018 #4

I'm not kidding northremembers Jul 2018 #117

So you're not kidding, you're just baselessly trashing a Squinch Jul 2018 #124

Let me put it a different way northremembers Jul 2018 #141

Excellent BeyondGeography Jul 2018 #127

Preach!! disillusioned73 Jul 2018 #143

What!? sheshe2 Jul 2018 #108

Thank You, she! That first post is Ridiculous Cha Jul 2018 #121

Speaking of Tammy Duckworth RandySF Jul 2018 #2

Duckworth ran against Mark Kirk, guillaumeb Jul 2018 #3

After getting elected to the House RandySF Jul 2018 #6

Kirk had a severe stroke. former9thward Jul 2018 #38

I agree. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #46

So? What are you saying? Cha Jul 2018 #67

Kirk was a GOP Senator in a fairly blue state. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #73

Yeah, who was elected in that blue state.. and the Great Senator, Tammy Duckworth, Cha Jul 2018 #80

Duckworth has her own opinion. eom guillaumeb Jul 2018 #138

Duckworth is absolutely right. Five miles from Ocasio-Cortez's win, old guard Dem Engel Squinch Jul 2018 #5

Duckworth seems to have forgotten the many progressive Democrats guillaumeb Jul 2018 #7

Wellstone was in danger of losing before he passed. RandySF Jul 2018 #9

Due in part to the huge influx of out of state money. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #10

Feingold might well have won without the Russians sharedvalues Jul 2018 #116

I repeat: anyone who demands that all Democrats run the same way and who insists that it be THEIR Squinch Jul 2018 #13

So that would also apply to Duckworth? guillaumeb Jul 2018 #15

Did she say that everyone needs to run on her agenda? Are you saying she's letting Squinch Jul 2018 #16

Ocasio-Cortez did not say that her agenda must be the only one. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #18

And your question is a straw man. Who in this conversation is allowing the GOP and corporate Squinch Jul 2018 #22

Obviously Joe Manchin will never be as progressive as some Senators that we could name. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #24

LOL! You don't see the value of the D? What are you going to say next, that both sides are the Squinch Jul 2018 #26

No, I asked a specific question. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #36

Down thread you defended a De Vos financed effort to challenge a strong Democrat. Your position is Squinch Jul 2018 #45

I did nothing of the sort. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #51

As a way of defending a De Vos financed primary to challenge a strong Democrat. Squinch Jul 2018 #59

You truly don't get it. A person that votes with us on critical issues 80% of the time beats Blue_true Jul 2018 #33

A number in the D column, for one mcar Jul 2018 #84

I second that true statement.. Just ask Conor Lamb Cha Jul 2018 #68

And owns an AR 15 GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #101

+1...nt SidDithers Jul 2018 #128

The special elections paint a different picture...the idea we run in red or Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #41

Every candidate must determine the type of campaign he/she will run. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #49

That is true. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #63

Well actually... sheshe2 Jul 2018 #110

I don't think Senator Tammy Duckworth has Cha Jul 2018 #122

All politics is local mcar Jul 2018 #83

I love Ocasio-Cortez RandySF Jul 2018 #8

It is interesting that you say that, guillaumeb Jul 2018 #12

Please explain. sheshe2 Jul 2018 #113

Ocasio-Cortez is a Democrat, guillaumeb Jul 2018 #140

I don't think that she is picking a fight. Blue_true Jul 2018 #40

Lulzd. Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #81

It's disappointing mcar Jul 2018 #85

No problem, Duckworth. theaocp Jul 2018 #11

Define what? Squinch Jul 2018 #14

What is "too far to the left". n/t theaocp Jul 2018 #25

Asinine. So you are going to demand a definition of "pure enough" that every Democratic candidate Squinch Jul 2018 #28

She said it. theaocp Jul 2018 #69

I am sure she can say what that means for her constituents. It would be imbecilic for her to Squinch Jul 2018 #72

She's welcome to clarify her statement any time she likes. theaocp Jul 2018 #92

Perfectly asinine. Squinch Jul 2018 #93

Yea, we hate to have clarity. So ... theaocp Jul 2018 #94

No. We don't hate to have clarity. We just hate to have trolls. Squinch Jul 2018 #125

Feel free to drop some names. theaocp Jul 2018 #137

In the meantime in Michigan RandySF Jul 2018 #17

What are Whitmer's positions on the issues? guillaumeb Jul 2018 #19

So you don't deny that Republicans are meddling? RandySF Jul 2018 #20

Are primary challenges to be discouraged? guillaumeb Jul 2018 #21

I rest my case. RandySF Jul 2018 #23

Why do you attack views that are Chickensoup Jul 2018 #104

What kind of revolution RandySF Jul 2018 #106

Holy crap kcr Jul 2018 #30

The posts really do reveal all. Squinch Jul 2018 #32

I hope that real democrats in Michigan see the ruse and don't get fooled. Blue_true Jul 2018 #50

I hope so too. But it's like whack-a-mole. How many troll candidates will surface that we Squinch Jul 2018 #62

They sure do reveal all. This whole thing didn't take R B Garr Jul 2018 #91

Quite transparent, this one. Maven Jul 2018 #105

Holy shit!! GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #109

Interesting, isn't it? Maven Jul 2018 #111

Like I said... GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #114

I asked a question. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #37

There's nothing wrong with running for office RandySF Jul 2018 #48

So, if someone decides to challenge an incumbent, guillaumeb Jul 2018 #53

Whitmer is not an incumbent RandySF Jul 2018 #56

My question was a general one. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #71

Do you think De Vos supports socialism? nt R B Garr Jul 2018 #90

If a person is supporting a candidate in the Democratic Primary that is supported by the GOP GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #102

The old Just Asking Questions kcr Jul 2018 #52

Yes this year...such challenges should be discouraged...we need to spend the money on taking Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #58

This. The rules are different now. Squinch Jul 2018 #66

Yes, the house is on fire...we have to win. That is the most important thing...and Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #79

It says you didn't answer the valid question uponit7771 Jul 2018 #118

who will never win in Michigan...this is what I feared from OR ...we could lose the chance to win Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #44

OR has lost any semblance of being a movement about policy kcr Jul 2018 #82

I agree...they are actively attempting to harm our chance to take back the House and Senate. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #96

What? mcar Jul 2018 #86

I wish Tammy hadn't said that. Blue_true Jul 2018 #27

I guess, on the basis of that one line in one article, the bashing of Duckworth on DU has begun. Squinch Jul 2018 #29

Beware the trolls RandySF Jul 2018 #31

Yep. And they're certainly gearing up. Squinch Jul 2018 #35

Primary season started in March. Most states already voted RandySF Jul 2018 #43

To sow division. Like those wonderful folks who are pushing the clunky "walk away" nonsense. Squinch Jul 2018 #57

Yes indeed. elleng Jul 2018 #34

I don't disagree with Tammy, just wish she hadn't said it publicly. Blue_true Jul 2018 #60

But it's just common sense. She's obviously right. I can't believe there are still people Squinch Jul 2018 #64

I take Common Dreams with a big grain of salt these days mcar Jul 2018 #87

Except it has not. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #39

She was asked a question...she answered. And she is correct...in a red state someone like Ms. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #47

That she was asked the question did not obligate her to answer it. Jim Lane Jul 2018 #88

She answered the question with a self-evident statement. The only reason it's a problem Squinch Jul 2018 #89

The problem was entirely foreseeable. Jim Lane Jul 2018 #115

The problem is not a problem. The fact that a handful Squinch Jul 2018 #120

I am sure Ms. Cortez is a fine person and all, but Tammy Duckworth is right Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #131

+1, and it is not credible to imply that Democrats don't R B Garr Jul 2018 #142

She was asked a question...why not answer it? Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #95

Or perhaps she knows her voters. GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #107

She probably means that if you campaign too far left, for example identifying as a Democratic Squinch Jul 2018 #55

I know what Tammy meant and agree with you 100%. nt Blue_true Jul 2018 #61

I agree with that. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #70

The article nastily trashed Duckworth for saying that if you go too far left you'll lose votes Squinch Jul 2018 #74

But there are Midwest progressive Democrats guillaumeb Jul 2018 #75

There are southern progressive Democrats. There are progressive Democrats in West Virginia. Squinch Jul 2018 #77

There are not enough. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #98

Not a shit load of socialist in the Midwest. GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #112

I am a real big fan of Tammy. Even with this, I think that she tops the 2020 field with Harris. nt Blue_true Jul 2018 #54

A Duckworth/Harris or Harris/Duckworth ticket would probably make me die of happiness. Squinch Jul 2018 #65

Yeah, with that ticket, my shorts would be messed up front and back from happiness. Blue_true Jul 2018 #78

Agreed. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #42

As I recall, Ocasio-Cortez said shortly after her victory, "There are many ways to be a Democrat." Garrett78 Jul 2018 #76

That changed RandySF Jul 2018 #99

Why do you say that? Garrett78 Jul 2018 #100

Yes, and that's what Senator Duckworth was Cha Jul 2018 #119

Her tweet about those half dozen states was quite misguided. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #135

Yes, she had no business Cha Jul 2018 #136

Read the whole article. Duckworth has the right approach Squinch Jul 2018 #123

There's only one quote from OC. Plus that misguided tweet about the 2016 primary. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #129

Other quote from OC: Squinch Jul 2018 #130

"Read the whole article." That quote is attributed later in the article. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #132

So do you see how that article was a manipulative hit piece and designed to divide? Squinch Jul 2018 #133

Of course. That was my point. And people fell for it. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #134

They are both right H2O Man Jul 2018 #97

Wow, another post by you attacking Dems from the left Maven Jul 2018 #103

I feel stupid. I was fooled. But not any more. Squinch Jul 2018 #126

Building with straw, are we? guillaumeb Jul 2018 #139