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guillaumeb

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39. Except it has not.

Reply to Squinch (Reply #29)

Sat Jul 7, 2018, 06:50 PM

Jul 2018

But if Duckworth make a statement, she should expect some questioning about what exactly she means.

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Working Class Politics 'Not Just for the Bronx': Ocasio-Cortez Debunks 'Too Far Left' [View all] guillaumeb Jul 2018 OP

Why don't you try it first, Tammy? northremembers Jul 2018 #1

Are you fucking kidding me? You're telling Tammy Duckworth to "fight for what you believe in"??? Squinch Jul 2018 #4

I'm not kidding northremembers Jul 2018 #117

So you're not kidding, you're just baselessly trashing a Squinch Jul 2018 #124

Let me put it a different way northremembers Jul 2018 #141

Excellent BeyondGeography Jul 2018 #127

Preach!! disillusioned73 Jul 2018 #143

What!? sheshe2 Jul 2018 #108

Thank You, she! That first post is Ridiculous Cha Jul 2018 #121

Speaking of Tammy Duckworth RandySF Jul 2018 #2

Duckworth ran against Mark Kirk, guillaumeb Jul 2018 #3

After getting elected to the House RandySF Jul 2018 #6

Kirk had a severe stroke. former9thward Jul 2018 #38

I agree. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #46

So? What are you saying? Cha Jul 2018 #67

Kirk was a GOP Senator in a fairly blue state. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #73

Yeah, who was elected in that blue state.. and the Great Senator, Tammy Duckworth, Cha Jul 2018 #80

Duckworth has her own opinion. eom guillaumeb Jul 2018 #138

Duckworth is absolutely right. Five miles from Ocasio-Cortez's win, old guard Dem Engel Squinch Jul 2018 #5

Duckworth seems to have forgotten the many progressive Democrats guillaumeb Jul 2018 #7

Wellstone was in danger of losing before he passed. RandySF Jul 2018 #9

Due in part to the huge influx of out of state money. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #10

Feingold might well have won without the Russians sharedvalues Jul 2018 #116

I repeat: anyone who demands that all Democrats run the same way and who insists that it be THEIR Squinch Jul 2018 #13

So that would also apply to Duckworth? guillaumeb Jul 2018 #15

Did she say that everyone needs to run on her agenda? Are you saying she's letting Squinch Jul 2018 #16

Ocasio-Cortez did not say that her agenda must be the only one. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #18

And your question is a straw man. Who in this conversation is allowing the GOP and corporate Squinch Jul 2018 #22

Obviously Joe Manchin will never be as progressive as some Senators that we could name. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #24

LOL! You don't see the value of the D? What are you going to say next, that both sides are the Squinch Jul 2018 #26

No, I asked a specific question. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #36

Down thread you defended a De Vos financed effort to challenge a strong Democrat. Your position is Squinch Jul 2018 #45

I did nothing of the sort. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #51

As a way of defending a De Vos financed primary to challenge a strong Democrat. Squinch Jul 2018 #59

You truly don't get it. A person that votes with us on critical issues 80% of the time beats Blue_true Jul 2018 #33

A number in the D column, for one mcar Jul 2018 #84

I second that true statement.. Just ask Conor Lamb Cha Jul 2018 #68

And owns an AR 15 GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #101

+1...nt SidDithers Jul 2018 #128

The special elections paint a different picture...the idea we run in red or Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #41

Every candidate must determine the type of campaign he/she will run. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #49

That is true. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #63

Well actually... sheshe2 Jul 2018 #110

I don't think Senator Tammy Duckworth has Cha Jul 2018 #122

All politics is local mcar Jul 2018 #83

I love Ocasio-Cortez RandySF Jul 2018 #8

It is interesting that you say that, guillaumeb Jul 2018 #12

Please explain. sheshe2 Jul 2018 #113

Ocasio-Cortez is a Democrat, guillaumeb Jul 2018 #140

I don't think that she is picking a fight. Blue_true Jul 2018 #40

Lulzd. Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #81

It's disappointing mcar Jul 2018 #85

No problem, Duckworth. theaocp Jul 2018 #11

Define what? Squinch Jul 2018 #14

What is "too far to the left". n/t theaocp Jul 2018 #25

Asinine. So you are going to demand a definition of "pure enough" that every Democratic candidate Squinch Jul 2018 #28

She said it. theaocp Jul 2018 #69

I am sure she can say what that means for her constituents. It would be imbecilic for her to Squinch Jul 2018 #72

She's welcome to clarify her statement any time she likes. theaocp Jul 2018 #92

Perfectly asinine. Squinch Jul 2018 #93

Yea, we hate to have clarity. So ... theaocp Jul 2018 #94

No. We don't hate to have clarity. We just hate to have trolls. Squinch Jul 2018 #125

Feel free to drop some names. theaocp Jul 2018 #137

In the meantime in Michigan RandySF Jul 2018 #17

What are Whitmer's positions on the issues? guillaumeb Jul 2018 #19

So you don't deny that Republicans are meddling? RandySF Jul 2018 #20

Are primary challenges to be discouraged? guillaumeb Jul 2018 #21

I rest my case. RandySF Jul 2018 #23

Why do you attack views that are Chickensoup Jul 2018 #104

What kind of revolution RandySF Jul 2018 #106

Holy crap kcr Jul 2018 #30

The posts really do reveal all. Squinch Jul 2018 #32

I hope that real democrats in Michigan see the ruse and don't get fooled. Blue_true Jul 2018 #50

I hope so too. But it's like whack-a-mole. How many troll candidates will surface that we Squinch Jul 2018 #62

They sure do reveal all. This whole thing didn't take R B Garr Jul 2018 #91

Quite transparent, this one. Maven Jul 2018 #105

Holy shit!! GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #109

Interesting, isn't it? Maven Jul 2018 #111

Like I said... GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #114

I asked a question. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #37

There's nothing wrong with running for office RandySF Jul 2018 #48

So, if someone decides to challenge an incumbent, guillaumeb Jul 2018 #53

Whitmer is not an incumbent RandySF Jul 2018 #56

My question was a general one. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #71

Do you think De Vos supports socialism? nt R B Garr Jul 2018 #90

If a person is supporting a candidate in the Democratic Primary that is supported by the GOP GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #102

The old Just Asking Questions kcr Jul 2018 #52

Yes this year...such challenges should be discouraged...we need to spend the money on taking Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #58

This. The rules are different now. Squinch Jul 2018 #66

Yes, the house is on fire...we have to win. That is the most important thing...and Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #79

It says you didn't answer the valid question uponit7771 Jul 2018 #118

who will never win in Michigan...this is what I feared from OR ...we could lose the chance to win Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #44

OR has lost any semblance of being a movement about policy kcr Jul 2018 #82

I agree...they are actively attempting to harm our chance to take back the House and Senate. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #96

What? mcar Jul 2018 #86

I wish Tammy hadn't said that. Blue_true Jul 2018 #27

I guess, on the basis of that one line in one article, the bashing of Duckworth on DU has begun. Squinch Jul 2018 #29

Beware the trolls RandySF Jul 2018 #31

Yep. And they're certainly gearing up. Squinch Jul 2018 #35

Primary season started in March. Most states already voted RandySF Jul 2018 #43

To sow division. Like those wonderful folks who are pushing the clunky "walk away" nonsense. Squinch Jul 2018 #57

Yes indeed. elleng Jul 2018 #34

I don't disagree with Tammy, just wish she hadn't said it publicly. Blue_true Jul 2018 #60

But it's just common sense. She's obviously right. I can't believe there are still people Squinch Jul 2018 #64

I take Common Dreams with a big grain of salt these days mcar Jul 2018 #87

Except it has not. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #39

She was asked a question...she answered. And she is correct...in a red state someone like Ms. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #47

That she was asked the question did not obligate her to answer it. Jim Lane Jul 2018 #88

She answered the question with a self-evident statement. The only reason it's a problem Squinch Jul 2018 #89

The problem was entirely foreseeable. Jim Lane Jul 2018 #115

The problem is not a problem. The fact that a handful Squinch Jul 2018 #120

I am sure Ms. Cortez is a fine person and all, but Tammy Duckworth is right Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #131

+1, and it is not credible to imply that Democrats don't R B Garr Jul 2018 #142

She was asked a question...why not answer it? Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #95

Or perhaps she knows her voters. GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #107

She probably means that if you campaign too far left, for example identifying as a Democratic Squinch Jul 2018 #55

I know what Tammy meant and agree with you 100%. nt Blue_true Jul 2018 #61

I agree with that. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #70

The article nastily trashed Duckworth for saying that if you go too far left you'll lose votes Squinch Jul 2018 #74

But there are Midwest progressive Democrats guillaumeb Jul 2018 #75

There are southern progressive Democrats. There are progressive Democrats in West Virginia. Squinch Jul 2018 #77

There are not enough. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #98

Not a shit load of socialist in the Midwest. GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #112

I am a real big fan of Tammy. Even with this, I think that she tops the 2020 field with Harris. nt Blue_true Jul 2018 #54

A Duckworth/Harris or Harris/Duckworth ticket would probably make me die of happiness. Squinch Jul 2018 #65

Yeah, with that ticket, my shorts would be messed up front and back from happiness. Blue_true Jul 2018 #78

Agreed. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #42

As I recall, Ocasio-Cortez said shortly after her victory, "There are many ways to be a Democrat." Garrett78 Jul 2018 #76

That changed RandySF Jul 2018 #99

Why do you say that? Garrett78 Jul 2018 #100

Yes, and that's what Senator Duckworth was Cha Jul 2018 #119

Her tweet about those half dozen states was quite misguided. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #135

Yes, she had no business Cha Jul 2018 #136

Read the whole article. Duckworth has the right approach Squinch Jul 2018 #123

There's only one quote from OC. Plus that misguided tweet about the 2016 primary. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #129

Other quote from OC: Squinch Jul 2018 #130

"Read the whole article." That quote is attributed later in the article. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #132

So do you see how that article was a manipulative hit piece and designed to divide? Squinch Jul 2018 #133

Of course. That was my point. And people fell for it. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #134

They are both right H2O Man Jul 2018 #97

Wow, another post by you attacking Dems from the left Maven Jul 2018 #103

I feel stupid. I was fooled. But not any more. Squinch Jul 2018 #126

Building with straw, are we? guillaumeb Jul 2018 #139