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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. There are no "real Americans" left in GOP caucuses,
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 12:13 PM
Jul 2018

of course.

And there are more plotters than just Putin. Ultrawealthy right-wingers have been packing legislatures and judiciaries with hard-core ideologues and corrupt scoundrels at every chance for decades now. Putin's efforts mostly supplemented their work to move Americans right and corrupt government to serve them. The religious right is involved also, with some members among ultrawealthy conservatives bridging the groups.

It is our domestic enemies who over time purged the Republican caucuses in congress of all members who would not be corrupted, and those were replaced with both hard-core authoritarians who'd do as they were told and corrupt opportunists, with a great deal of overlap.

Everyone should read about authoritarians and authoritarian leaders. The former are extremely dangerous en mass when just following orders of bad leaders -- as we are seeing among Trump voters now, and the bad leaders are scary as hell.

Robert Altemeyer, a seminal expert on authoritarians, wrote a book for lay readers about his research and made it available without cost on line because he felt it was desperately important for people understand this danger in ourselves and/or others.

Authoritarian Followers: We know a lot about authoritarian followers, ... See if you recognize any of these behaviors in Trump supporters. Compared with most people:

They are highly ethnocentric, highly inclined to see the world as their in-group versus everyone else. Because they are so committed to their in-group, they are very zealous in its cause. They will trust their leaders no matter what they say, and distrust whomever the leader says to distrust. ...

They are highly fearful of a dangerous world. Their parents taught them, more than parents usually do, that the world is dangerous. They may also be genetically predisposed to experience stronger fear than people skilled at “keeping their heads while others are losing theirs.”

They are highly self-righteous. They believe they are the “good people” and this unlocks a lot of hostile impulses against those they consider bad.

They are aggressive. Given the chance to attack someone with the approval of an authority, they will lower the boom.

They are highly prejudiced against racial and ethnic minorities, non-heterosexuals, and women in general.

They will support their authorities, and even help them, persecute almost any identifiable group in the country.

Their beliefs are a mass of contradictions. They have highly compartmentalized minds, in which opposite beliefs live independent lives in separate boxes. As a result, their thinking is full of double-standards.

They reason poorly. If they like the conclusion of an argument, they don’t pay much attention to whether the evidence is valid or the argument is consistent. They especially have trouble realizing a conclusion is invalid.

They are highly dogmatic. Because they have mainly gotten their beliefs from the authorities in their lives, rather than think things out for themselves, they have no real defense when facts or events indicate they are wrong. So they just dig in their heels and refuse to change.

They are very dependent on social reinforcement of their beliefs. They think they are right because almost everyone they know and listen to tells them they are. That happens because they screen out sources that will suggest that they are wrong.

Because they severely limit their exposure to different people and ideas, they vastly overestimate the extent to which other people agree with them. And thinking they are “the moral majority” supports their attacks on the “evil minorities” they see in the country.

They believe strongly in group cohesiveness, and being loyal. They are highly energized when surrounded by a crowd of fellow-believers because it makes them feel powerful and supports their belief that “all the good people” agree with them.

They are easily duped by manipulators who pretend to espouse their causes when all the con-artists really want is personal gain.

They are largely blind to themselves. They have little self-understanding and insight into why they think and do what they do. They are heavily into denial.

I hasten to add that studies find examples of all these things in lots of others, not just authoritarian followers. But not as consistently, and not nearly as much.

If you are the kind of person who would NOT make a good authoritarian follower, you will be wondering “What’s the evidence?” for all these assertions. The scientific evidence, which has stood the test of time for decades now, is at your fingertips.

https://theauthoritarians.org/

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I don't think of Nance as being prone to hyperbole dhol82 Jul 2018 #1
K&R! Anon-C Jul 2018 #2
K & R...for visibility... Wounded Bear Jul 2018 #3
It's not hyperbole, but I agree we can still win. Nitram Jul 2018 #4
Whoever votes in enough numbers wins. Hortensis Jul 2018 #31
there has to be so many they can't overcome with election rigging. WhiteTara Jul 2018 #41
Agreed - this is all that matters! FakeNoose Jul 2018 #48
Yes! VOTE, Dammit! calimary Jul 2018 #64
I agree with Malcom Nance on this bdamomma Jul 2018 #5
If we had some real Americans left duforsure Jul 2018 #6
There are no "real Americans" left in GOP caucuses, Hortensis Jul 2018 #25
Unfortunately you're probably right duforsure Jul 2018 #37
I think reposting your reply as an OP might help some folks. Ilsa Jul 2018 #47
We can thank the Tea Party for this FakeNoose Jul 2018 #50
FakeNoose, the tea party was CREATED by the very Hortensis Jul 2018 #55
Yes it's been happening since Reagan FakeNoose Jul 2018 #56
Sorry. :) Like info on authoritarians, I post this periodically. Hortensis Jul 2018 #57
Thanks for being so thorough, Hortensis FakeNoose Jul 2018 #59
:) You too me. Info, encouragement, antidote to neighbors. Hortensis Jul 2018 #61
The real Americans of that party ran. They knew what we know. ancianita Jul 2018 #38
"If we turn out this year like it was a national election year..." nolabear Jul 2018 #7
KnR Hekate Jul 2018 #8
You can bet Rethugs are planning a massive turnout. Bayard Jul 2018 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author 2golddogs Jul 2018 #10
Nance has been calm and rational throughout, yet a passionate patriot. I have not once seen him... Hekate Jul 2018 #11
Then you haven't been paying attention RandomAccess Jul 2018 #12
Do you have a link to Malcolm Nancy saying that? uponit7771 Jul 2018 #16
Nance 2golddogs Jul 2018 #18
He never said it. Do you even know who Nance is ? JI7 Jul 2018 #34
If you read his books, you'll know that he knows what he's talking about. ancianita Jul 2018 #40
Nance never said that that was the guy with glasses on CNN uponit7771 Jul 2018 #42
You may have him confused with Van Jones or Fareed Zakaria, lagomorph777 Jul 2018 #24
Yes. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #35
Nance 2golddogs Jul 2018 #44
Maybe. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #52
You're getting your black men confused. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2018 #28
Van Jones said that. And how does one really confuse them JI7 Jul 2018 #32
I don't recall ever getting that vibe from Malcolm. I think that you might possibly theophilus Jul 2018 #36
This is SO important to understand RandomAccess Jul 2018 #13
Kick Sparkly Jul 2018 #14
Why? Because we wont fight? snort Jul 2018 #15
Well said, I agree. saidsimplesimon Jul 2018 #53
Let's not forget that Trump would have no power to destroy the Constitution workinclasszero Jul 2018 #17
The target should be the republicans Cosmocat Jul 2018 #30
Amen. That they break their oath of office will be a proven fact if Mueller has any say about it. ancianita Jul 2018 #43
Think of this: What if Trump was just ONE strand Putin employed to destroy American Democracy ? OnDoutside Jul 2018 #19
How about a new world superpower the American and Russian Federation. gordianot Jul 2018 #20
Alea iacta est (" The die is cast ") saidsimplesimon Jul 2018 #21
Yes Trump and the republican party workinclasszero Jul 2018 #27
and Bannon is preaching out in Europe bdamomma Jul 2018 #49
The thing that makes this all possible is that we have a President with no heart or soul. world wide wally Jul 2018 #22
More to the point Cosmocat Jul 2018 #33
THe reason they are infected is their media propaganda; Faux, Breitbart, etc. BRainwashed. Amaryllis Jul 2018 #63
Malcolm blue-wave Jul 2018 #23
"If we turn out this year like it was a presidential election year, then we will win in a phenomenal FSogol Jul 2018 #26
On the cusp?????????? Cryptoad Jul 2018 #29
If we democrats dont get out there and vote in HUGE numbers and at minimum take back the house, then lancelyons Jul 2018 #39
second that onetexan Jul 2018 #45
as an incentive bdamomma Jul 2018 #51
If they were to go as far as to take away the internet it will take more than voting standingtall Jul 2018 #58
K&R. nt Ilsa Jul 2018 #46
Malcolm also says they're not going to get away with their crimes. GoCubsGo Jul 2018 #54
Went out and bought his book after reading this. Hekate Jul 2018 #60
This is frightening. I'm not given to conspiracy theories, but I gotta say that this rings true. Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #62
I don't think we're on the cusp. zentrum Jul 2018 #65
As a native Philadelphian, I agree with you Malcolm! BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #66
Agree 100% with Malcolm Nance UCmeNdc Jul 2018 #67
Malcolm Nance bdamomma Jul 2018 #68
Don't look at me; I tried to warn everybody... Blue_Tires Jul 2018 #69
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