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85. She should apologize. But I'm growing tired of the punching to the Left

Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:30 PM

Jul 2018

She done fucked up. There's no arguing around it.

But people seem out to get her.

A strong, progressive, Democratic woman. Oh no! She upset the Establishment!

So now we have to burn her.

Obvious and boring. The most important midterms of our lifetime, and some people just want to Punch Left as hard as possible.

It's fucking stupid.

We're not allowed to have liberals. Just approved candidates. The people who have spent months screaming, "Vote Democratic no matter what!" suddenly have no problem going after OC. Oh, I guess some Democrats don't count, huh? What's different about her?

Mhm. Mhm. Let's pretend not to notice.

I'll just note the people who usually have a sexism accusation at the ready are leaving it in their holster for her. So curious.

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NY-14: Working Families Party asked Crowley to run against another Democrat to get off ballot [View all] RandySF Jul 2018 OP

Is WPF asking Cynthia Nixon to run in a different race to Cha Jul 2018 #1

Katie Wilson put her name in for state legislature. joshcryer Jul 2018 #2

Thanks, Josh Cha Jul 2018 #3

Yeah, but Katie Wilson in NY 21 is not at all comparable to NY_20th Jul 2018 #6

Oh yes, I know. joshcryer Jul 2018 #7

lulzd. Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #25

If we lose the Deleware seat as a result of this nonsense...I would give money to a primary Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #29

There's this, too.. I don't know if you've seen it.. Cha Jul 2018 #33

You know, I couldn't put my finger on it, but there was something about her I disliked. LisaM Jul 2018 #76

I knew exactly why.. the way Cha Jul 2018 #106

She's campaigning for Justice Democrats. AtomicKitten Jul 2018 #137

Hi Cha. Blue_true Jul 2018 #56

You make a good point about hypocrisy. Jim Lane Jul 2018 #68

I don't think Gabbard is being primaried because she endorsed Bernie. Blue_true Jul 2018 #103

I'm not addressing the motivation of her challenger. Jim Lane Jul 2018 #108

The challenger is a VERY progressive, longtime democrat. Blue_true Jul 2018 #109

Oh, you "haven't seen hostility to Bernie"? All I can say is that I have. (n/t) Jim Lane Jul 2018 #115

Then, we agree to disagree. nt Blue_true Jul 2018 #121

Hahahahahahaha aidbo Jul 2018 #131

I think it's different.. tulsi won't even debate she's Cha Jul 2018 #105

I don't equate insurgent with Our Revolution. Blue_true Jul 2018 #107

"Furthermore, the staffer says that Corbin Trent, a spokesman for Ocasio-Cortez's campaign, called.. Cha Jul 2018 #4

Looks like we'll be getting a Bernie-esque apology in the morning. joshcryer Jul 2018 #8

She needs to apologize and admit her mistke publicly Cha Jul 2018 #10

Well I hope she's woman enough to apologize. joshcryer Jul 2018 #11

I'll be shocked if she apologizes kcr Jul 2018 #12

She absolutely should reach out to him and apologize. NY_20th Jul 2018 #9

Susan Sarandon DURHAM D Jul 2018 #14

Susan "Trump Enabler" Sarandon strikes again. NY_20th Jul 2018 #15

How many seats are despicable people like Sarandon and the OR organization going to cost us? Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #30

Maybe she is. LisaM Jul 2018 #78

"I am very young so it doesn't matter" in 5 4 3 2 1 grantcart Jul 2018 #73

This is getting ridiculous. NY_20th Jul 2018 #5

We had the best president ever. Initech Jul 2018 #13

Yup. NY_20th Jul 2018 #17

she is worried he will beat her in the GE JI7 Jul 2018 #16

If this is going to be her strategy, Crowley might just win. NY_20th Jul 2018 #18

Yes. She is worried if she can't show in the debates... joshcryer Jul 2018 #19

And he might...there were very few voters in the primary...and I have to wonder how people in her Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #32

No. The concern is that a Republican will win Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #70

It's a narrow track for Crowley to stay in which he refuses to relinquish. AtomicKitten Jul 2018 #138

It is probably not going to matter, but it could. Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #144

So Crowley IS running for Congress Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #20

No RandySF Jul 2018 #21

If he feels it is unethical to run for an office he doesn't intend to serve in Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #22

We've gone round and round this RandySF Jul 2018 #23

I'm not ignoring any facts. Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #24

It seems that running against the Democratic nominee Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #26

Such as being a woman of color Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #35

And having been a Bernie organizer. Nanjeanne Jul 2018 #44

So what? Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #48

Not for me. But it's easy to see some consistent objections by a handful of others. Nanjeanne Jul 2018 #51

Did we read the same articles? Lee-Lee Jul 2018 #31

So he is saying that he does intend to serve in Congress Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #36

Once again, did we read the same article? Lee-Lee Jul 2018 #38

Which says he does intend to serve in Congress Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #39

No, he's not saying that. He actually ran in that primary kcr Jul 2018 #45

So he is still running for congress in that district Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #49

It's like talking to a stoner n/t kcr Jul 2018 #57

Stoners are people too Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #60

You're actually spreading lies about a current Dem representative. He is saying the opposite. bettyellen Jul 2018 #80

No I'm saying that he has every obligation to get off the ballot. Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #87

You said "he is saying" X. And that is a lie. Words matter. bettyellen Jul 2018 #88

They might if Crowley splits the vote. Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #90

You are deliberately mischaracterizing his words. And the GOP has no chance at all in that district. bettyellen Jul 2018 #94

No, he said Democrats should unite and he endorsed AOC. You are just making shit up at this point emulatorloo Jul 2018 #89

I'm not making anything up Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #91

He's not running. He's not campaigning. He endorsed her. I like AOC, here's hoping she'll focus emulatorloo Jul 2018 #92

Actions speak louder than words Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #93

Yes actions speak louder than words. Are there Crowley campaign rally's and speeches? No emulatorloo Jul 2018 #96

And they've asked him to take himself off the ballot Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #97

Maybe he doesn't want to kill himself to make you happy? WFP fucked up. No guarantees in life emulatorloo Jul 2018 #99

He doesn't have to kill himself Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #100

Maybe he doesn't want to take his name off the ballot because he doesn't want to mercuryblues Jul 2018 #102

It's not unethical Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #111

Does that include killing himself or robbing a bank? MichMan Jul 2018 #119

There are other avenues Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #122

It's interesting how that poster's name can be read a few different ways... Squinch Jul 2018 #130

He still has not officially conceded the primary to Alexandria. AtomicKitten Jul 2018 #140

Very odd that he hasn't Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #146

The wording in that is oddly inflammatory. It says WFP has tried for "weeks" R B Garr Jul 2018 #95

You are ignoring facts including that at this point, Ocasios team I ssearxhing for a way to save fac stevenleser Jul 2018 #41

Based on an unnamed Crowley staffer. Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #42

And Ocasios team could easily correct that if it wasnt true. It is and you are pushing incorrect stevenleser Jul 2018 #54

All I'm pushing is support for the Democratic nominee Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #59

Nope, everyone is doing that. You can't hide behind that. nt stevenleser Jul 2018 #63

No Everyone is not doing that Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #64

Yes, they are. You are just choosing not to see it. You are glossing over several inconvenient facts stevenleser Jul 2018 #67

No you are Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #69

Nope, and here is more proof for you. Ocasio is sending paid staffers to ANOTHER STATE stevenleser Jul 2018 #104

That is for a primary in September Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #112

Exactly. And if there was a general election campaign, those staffers would be working it NOW. stevenleser Jul 2018 #132

You must have never worked on campaign before Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #133

In doing so you are saying he should run mercuryblues Jul 2018 #113

Nice try Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #114

The real shame is mercuryblues Jul 2018 #117

Then you're saying Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #118

He has stated he is not actively running mercuryblues Jul 2018 #120

No he can get his name off the ballot Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #123

You are correct MichMan Jul 2018 #47

Or he could take one of several other avenues Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #50

Which avenue would you suggest?...nt SidDithers Jul 2018 #53

Anyone would be fine Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #58

The avenues are listed in the OP... SidDithers Jul 2018 #61

Here is what the Working Families party proposed Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #62

So take votes away from some other Democrat then? MichMan Jul 2018 #65

So you want him to take votes away from Ocasio-Cortez Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #66

No I don't care what he does MichMan Jul 2018 #75

Crowley has an obligation as a party official Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #82

The simplest would be for Crowley to register to vote in Virginia, where he actually lives. (n/t) Jim Lane Jul 2018 #71

Definitely Power 2 the People Jul 2018 #101

He was raised in that district. Didn't her parents R B Garr Jul 2018 #116

+1 OnDoutside Jul 2018 #27

100% Every bit of what you just wrote. nt stevenleser Jul 2018 #40

Well if he won...even if he doesn't serve...she has two years. They will lining up to run against Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #34

Yes it is a terrible situation Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #37

... SidDithers Jul 2018 #43

The WFP has been clear Crowley is refusing to cooperate with taking his name off the ballot. AtomicKitten Jul 2018 #141

This is a controversy she whipped up out of her own ignorance, and it isn't doing her any good. Squinch Jul 2018 #28

And he has no responsibility here? shanny Jul 2018 #83

Who is the candidate? Squinch Jul 2018 #125

So now you are in favor of 3-party runs? Good to know. shanny Jul 2018 #126

And you know perfectly well that's not true. Those who are pulling out that little canard are Squinch Jul 2018 #127

It aint a "canard" if Crowley is on the ballot. shanny Jul 2018 #128

Nothing more to say to you. You know the truth. You are trying to score a point using the lie. Squinch Jul 2018 #129

Thanks for clarifying this issue... SidDithers Jul 2018 #46

The WFP has repeatedly asked Crowley to get off the ballot Nevernose Jul 2018 #74

They were the ones that put him on there MichMan Jul 2018 #77

The claim is this unethical and borderline fraudulent scheme is common kcr Jul 2018 #124

Self-Inflicted Wounds. NCTraveler Jul 2018 #52

Totally self-inflicted. There was a post that she didn't pledge to R B Garr Jul 2018 #79

Dems: There is no way we'll lose this seat... Adrahil Jul 2018 #55

lol NY_20th Jul 2018 #110

Maybe NY should get it's head out of it's ass and repeal this idiotic law MichMan Jul 2018 #72

NY state government has a lot of work to do in that regard. DinahMoeHum Jul 2018 #84

What that law was designed to do AtomicKitten Jul 2018 #135

well, since he has already moved out of state shanny Jul 2018 #81

He hasn't moved out of state oberliner Jul 2018 #134

He lives in northern Virginia and has for years. shanny Jul 2018 #136

No, he doesn't oberliner Jul 2018 #139

... shanny Jul 2018 #142

The Murdoch-owned NY Post is a right-wing tabloid oberliner Jul 2018 #143

... shanny Jul 2018 #145

She should apologize. But I'm growing tired of the punching to the Left wonkwest Jul 2018 #85

The stupidest part of all this is taking WFP seriously at all. yardwork Jul 2018 #86

+1.. It's like they don't know how to run against Republicans. It's R B Garr Jul 2018 #98