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Tatiana

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36. As in people who have been there for a long time.

Fri Jul 13, 2018, 09:29 PM

Jul 2018

I personally think she has ambition and eventually want to be in leadership.

And, a way to do that is to help get people elected that will support her, in return.

It's strategy. Pelosi's done it. Schumer's done it. Daschle did it. Plenty of people do this. When Rahm Emanuel was in Congress, he did it ALL THE TIME.

Remember when Obama was the political neophyte and Clinton was the experienced candidate? Remember when people told him to wait his turn?

Remember the fierce urgency of NOW?

Yes, this is messy. It's uncomfortable. But our political landscape and climate has changed. We'd do well to try to work with, guide, and support our future leaders. Cause they ain't going anywhere.

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Ocasio-Cortez to campaign against Democratic Congressman William Clay in St. Louis [View all] RandySF Jul 2018 OP

Is this what her district wants her to do, and is this what they elected her to do? still_one Jul 2018 #1

I would hope so...do you know how little a single congressperson can do JCanete Jul 2018 #8

Interesting that she choose to campaign against a very liberal Democrat in MO still_one Jul 2018 #11

It's not about ideology GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #12

That is sure what it looks like, and frankly I am sick and tired of those who have are only look to still_one Jul 2018 #89

Yes, it's a dominance game. JHan Jul 2018 #91

The incumbent is a solid liberal mcar Jul 2018 #34

Cori Bush Justice Democrat Me. Jul 2018 #45

Jimmy dore is an anti semitic conspiracy theorist JI7 Jul 2018 #48

Exactly Me. Jul 2018 #50

Oh for sweet Jesus' sake! mcar Jul 2018 #53

Dore belongs on JPR Gothmog Jul 2018 #69

Right? Me. Jul 2018 #72

So was Joe Crowley oberliner Jul 2018 #110

AOC will be hurting her district with stunts like this Gothmog Jul 2018 #68

what is that...punishment? Quid pro quo in Washington? Well you would know better than I. nt JCanete Jul 2018 #83

A stern talking to in the cloakroom! Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2018 #87

She is a young and has burn her bridges Gothmog Jul 2018 #101

She deserves NOTHING after pulling stunts like this. She has just shown her true colors still_one Jul 2018 #90

This is where William Clay is on the issues still_one Jul 2018 #2

Doesn't look like a conservative record to me. RandySF Jul 2018 #7

He's not. xmas74 Jul 2018 #67

100% from NARAL and an "F" from the NRA LisaM Jul 2018 #27

She'll been in Kansas July 20 campaigning for a candidate.... 4139 Jul 2018 #3

Or left out. RandySF Jul 2018 #5

She should worry about her own election...and all this targeting of Dems is not helpful...I gave her Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #18

a player adding heaven05 Jul 2018 #76

She should be in her district campaigning. Dawson Leery Jul 2018 #4

I guess she's not so worried about Crowley RandySF Jul 2018 #6

In her district Crowley is the "name you know" and is on the ballot too. TeamPooka Jul 2018 #108

She still has at least two months after the last primary to campaign. Blue_true Jul 2018 #61

Me too. we can do it Jul 2018 #103

When centrists support their preferred candidates, no one cares. Tatiana Jul 2018 #9

Clay is a progressive incumbent RandySF Jul 2018 #10

OmG.. playing with fire? Cha Jul 2018 #14

I like Clay. He's leading an important legal fight for unions. Tatiana Jul 2018 #15

And if the seat goes to a Republican? Incumbents have an advantage and primary voters are very Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #22

MO 1st is an urban CD comprised of St. Louis & St. Louis county. Tatiana Jul 2018 #25

Strategic by going after liberal progressives ? JI7 Jul 2018 #26

In trying to help elect progressive Democrats who are not members of the status quo. Tatiana Jul 2018 #31

Establishment like planned parenthood ? JI7 Jul 2018 #32

As in people who have been there for a long time. Tatiana Jul 2018 #36

He has been there less than 20 years. She supported sanders who was there much longer JI7 Jul 2018 #38

Well... people were mad when Obama took on Bobby Rush in a primary challenge, too. Tatiana Jul 2018 #39

Obama was actually running himself JI7 Jul 2018 #41

C'mon. The point is obvious. Tatiana Jul 2018 #44

Do we destroy planned parenthood also because they are establishment ? JI7 Jul 2018 #46

So how did that work out in November 2016? ucrdem Jul 2018 #47

No. What's obvious is that the choice of who is being supported has nothing to do with ideology GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #55

Cori Bush was staunchly anti-Hillary for much of 2016. RandySF Jul 2018 #74

I'm so shocked. GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #75

"She supported sanders who was there much longer" - funny how that works out, eh? George II Jul 2018 #104

"Establishment" has become a stupid accusation EffieBlack Jul 2018 #94

It is foolish to take such a risk and this is a progressive Democrat being targeted...I am Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #98

I'm not impressed with her flying off the handle Cha Jul 2018 #13

what happened with Tammy? She's my Senator... LuvLoogie Jul 2018 #29

Ah, Luv! You missed Cha Jul 2018 #35

AOC may have drive and smarts, but grace and wisdom gets you LuvLoogie Jul 2018 #52

You called it! "Grace and Wisdom" is Cha Jul 2018 #57

SInce She Made The Accusation She Should Do The Apologizing Me. Jul 2018 #49

Certainly not one of her finest moments. Tatiana Jul 2018 #54

She's doing it to herself, imv. Cha Jul 2018 #59

What's the phrase? "Stay in your lane." brush Jul 2018 #84

Not wise.. No wisdom Cha Jul 2018 #88

I call BS GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #16

Didn't sanders endorse that weird guy over debbie Wasserman schultz ? JI7 Jul 2018 #17

The one who turned out to be a racist? GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #20

It is not what she is ...she is going after Democrats and could cost us a majority. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #19

If, despite her antics, we win the majority... GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #21

Yeah right and in two years she may experience a primary as an incumbent...I know that district, Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #23

If we lose a majority because of this shit, I truly will lose my mind...not different than what cost Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #24

It's Missouri so good luck with that one underthematrix Jul 2018 #28

So OR is pushing a Bush and a Nixon ucrdem Jul 2018 #30

lol.. mere coincidence.. funny though. Cha Jul 2018 #37

oops meant to reply to you not myself . . . ucrdem Jul 2018 #42

Oh well.. you rock, too! Cha Jul 2018 #43

Just when you think things couldn't get any weirder ucrdem Jul 2018 #40

Ha! sheshe2 Jul 2018 #77

heya sheshe!! ucrdem Jul 2018 #80

Enjoy your, TGIF! sheshe2 Jul 2018 #86

Cynthia Nixon... now more than ever! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2018 #78

bwahaha ucrdem Jul 2018 #81

Why primary a liberal, experienced AA legislator? mcar Jul 2018 #33

Her and Cori Bush have similar histories. Blue_true Jul 2018 #58

I still don't mcar Jul 2018 #60

WTF!? She's fucking up all over the damn place. STOP!!!! NT Adrahil Jul 2018 #51

Feel good story jcgoldie Jul 2018 #56

One of these members of Congress is William Lacy Clay lapucelle Jul 2018 #62

The one on the right is Bernie. RandySF Jul 2018 #63

Right you are! lapucelle Jul 2018 #65

less concerned about someone exercising their democratic right to participate in our primary bigtree Jul 2018 #64

AOC isn't exercising her democratic right to participate in "our" Primary - she is a New Yorker.... George II Jul 2018 #85

Clay will win JustAnotherGen Jul 2018 #99

I can't wait to see AOC's committee assignments as baby law maker Gothmog Jul 2018 #66

WFT?!?!? RandySF Jul 2018 #71

That assignment may be out of her reach Gothmog Jul 2018 #73

AOC is not making friends in the Party Gothmog Jul 2018 #105

Bill Pascrell is one of the most respected NJ Congress person, a very nice man who... George II Jul 2018 #106

He's a sweetheart JustAnotherGen Jul 2018 #109

She has just burnt bridges with a lot of Democrats with the stunts she is pulling lately, and this still_one Jul 2018 #92

The irony being that she will use her inexperience as an excuse... joshcryer Jul 2018 #95

AOC is hurting her district Gothmog Jul 2018 #100

In less than three weeks she's taken on.... George II Jul 2018 #102

Yeah, and removing two veterans will just make more baby assigments available. joshcryer Jul 2018 #96

This pisses me off. xmas74 Jul 2018 #70

Dumb move suprcali Jul 2018 #97

Is it a problem here, but OK elsewhere? shanny Jul 2018 #79

William Clay has been a respected Democratic Congressman since 2001, and a leading member.... George II Jul 2018 #82

really sick of this shit. JHan Jul 2018 #93

NY is one thing. Messing with D incumbent in MO is another. TeamPooka Jul 2018 #107