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38. I know

Reply to WhiteTara (Reply #36)

Sat Jul 14, 2018, 11:06 AM

Jul 2018

I sometimes feel the same way. But we MUST work to fix this. If I ever give up hope, life wouldn't be wort living.

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The Russians just had to flip 40,000 votes in three States [View all] edhopper Jul 2018 OP

Exactly! NRaleighLiberal Jul 2018 #1

And less than 100k for the Senate!! EndGOPPropaganda Jul 2018 #46

Russians wouldn't have known...... dawnie51 Jul 2018 #2

Yes edhopper Jul 2018 #12

Brad Parscale dalton99a Jul 2018 #19

The face of evil. nt SunSeeker Jul 2018 #42

Steve Bannon was in on this FakeNoose Jul 2018 #85

The bonus is mercuryblues Jul 2018 #90

Cambridge Analytica...... lastlib Jul 2018 #156

My question remains... yallerdawg Jul 2018 #3

How would they know if their vote was tampered with? mcar Jul 2018 #5

The results of all elections are public record. yallerdawg Jul 2018 #13

We can't track our votes sarah FAILIN Jul 2018 #32

In this case... yallerdawg Jul 2018 #40

First step edhopper Jul 2018 #43

Are you sure about the manual tallies everywhere exboyfil Jul 2018 #45

A sampling of ballots to machine counts is standard practice. yallerdawg Jul 2018 #49

I don't think anyone has ever been allowed to examine the programming for aggregating votes. Lonestarblue Jul 2018 #70

How complicated could a counting program be? yallerdawg Jul 2018 #73

Actually edhopper Jul 2018 #76

"Hackable" is not proof. yallerdawg Jul 2018 #123

I didn't say it was edhopper Jul 2018 #131

2017 DefCon Conference Lonestarblue Jul 2018 #97

These acts would require at least proximity. yallerdawg Jul 2018 #122

So, dawg, answer me one question, watoos Jul 2018 #167

Machines are randomly checked everywhere. yallerdawg Jul 2018 #170

Everyone Is Looking The Wrong Way!!! robersl Jul 2018 #72

Plus edhopper Jul 2018 #78

Exactly robersl Jul 2018 #86

Where are these "voters" I ask again? yallerdawg Jul 2018 #92

The same place the Florida voters were in 2000 uponit7771 Jul 2018 #105

These Voters Are In Heavily Democratic Precincts robersl Jul 2018 #108

44,000 voters protested? yallerdawg Jul 2018 #119

I'm Not Sure What Part of This You Can't Understand robersl Jul 2018 #127

When your name is not on the voter roll... yallerdawg Jul 2018 #129

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2018 #104

Except for two things Lee-Lee Jul 2018 #115

Read This robersl Jul 2018 #117

This would not have mattered in Wisconsin forthemiddle Jul 2018 #133

Yes that's where most of the 'vote tampering' occurred. triron Jul 2018 #142

who says it can't be both? nt TheFrenchRazor Jul 2018 #162

Exactly watoos Jul 2018 #168

Georgia uses easily hackable Diebold machines with no paper trail delisen Jul 2018 #118

There are a handful of states that use paperless systems. yallerdawg Jul 2018 #121

Challenge is pointless-the machine recalculates delisen Jul 2018 #172

Mcar has a good question. Mariana Jul 2018 #10

I answered. Where's the evidence? It's been a while now. yallerdawg Jul 2018 #16

The evidence gathering was shut down! lark Jul 2018 #27

There is evidence of what happened. yallerdawg Jul 2018 #37

No Wisconsin was recounted in full. forthemiddle Jul 2018 #134

Really? lark Jul 2018 #140

Nope it was complete with one day to spare forthemiddle Jul 2018 #146

recounted by hand or machine? i'm pretty certain that the entire state was not recounted by hand. TheFrenchRazor Jul 2018 #163

Here is the data forthemiddle Jul 2018 #165

How would they know? edhopper Jul 2018 #14

Michigan - paper ballots. yallerdawg Jul 2018 #20

You feel confidant in the election count in 2016? tomp Jul 2018 #83

You know what wil change election counts? yallerdawg Jul 2018 #102

IF there is hacking of voting happening... tomp Jul 2018 #147

Most states and many more locations have paper trails. yallerdawg Jul 2018 #148

I'm not certain that all hacks leave a trail. tomp Jul 2018 #150

Is your argument that our elections are actually meaningless? yallerdawg Jul 2018 #151

Wow, that's way to much assumption for me! tomp Jul 2018 #152

The thing I care about... yallerdawg Jul 2018 #154

were those paper ballots ever counted entirely by hand? NO, but nevermind. nt TheFrenchRazor Jul 2018 #164

Which resulted in overvotes for Hillary MichMan Jul 2018 #74

I lived in Detroit at the time, and 400 precincts could not be counted because the paper ballot scan Meadowoak Jul 2018 #17

Wouldn't that be news? yallerdawg Jul 2018 #22

Exactly. bearsfootball516 Jul 2018 #29

It was. Qutzupalotl Jul 2018 #34

How do they know that happened? yallerdawg Jul 2018 #41

This statement was in the article you linked MichMan Jul 2018 #80

We don't know who the extra votes were for. Qutzupalotl Jul 2018 #88

Since Detroit is 95% Dems and there were overvotes in those precincts........ MichMan Jul 2018 #96

The votes were not "lost' MichMan Jul 2018 #77

yes and this would have been more than enough jimlup Jul 2018 #159

Here come the naysayers. triron Jul 2018 #161

Detroit was 100% hacked! Meadowoak Jul 2018 #4

A major city that has reliably voted 97% Democrat for decades wasn't even counted! Meadowoak Jul 2018 #7

I havent seen this, do you have a link Detroit votes not being counted like they were supposed to? uponit7771 Jul 2018 #9

You could start here RandomAccess Jul 2018 #31

Fuckin wow !!! uponit7771 Jul 2018 #57

Thank you for those links. Meadowoak Jul 2018 #64

Citation needed mythology Jul 2018 #26

See post #31 I was unable to link it from my phone. Meadowoak Jul 2018 #66

Seems i remember the next day Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #6

Was there not something about a ridiculously large number... 3catwoman3 Jul 2018 #15

Very much so. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #30

THANK YOU !!! They're asking people to believe in The Magic Bullet Theory !! Bank Robbers set out uponit7771 Jul 2018 #8

I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't believe in the Magic Bullet Theory Awsi Dooger Jul 2018 #144

You know the pukes had already laid the groundwork shanny Jul 2018 #11

Your theory falls apart when you realize it's working backwards mythology Jul 2018 #18

Some by hand edhopper Jul 2018 #23

You thought you had around $28:000 in checking but turns out only $22,000... lostnfound Jul 2018 #24

What was that thing that Rummy said, something about the absence of evidence ck4829 Jul 2018 #25

Yes, but.... robersl Jul 2018 #69

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2018 #106

Actually, Milwaukee one of the two largest Dem Counties forthemiddle Jul 2018 #135

K&R ck4829 Jul 2018 #21

I think they flipped votes in other states WhiteTara Jul 2018 #28

Here's some info RandomAccess Jul 2018 #33

Our country has been stolen. WhiteTara Jul 2018 #36

I know RandomAccess Jul 2018 #38

Of course we must. As long as sentient beings remain WhiteTara Jul 2018 #53

Your proof is the Palmer Report? MichMan Jul 2018 #126

A damn lot of Dems also think raising the question RandomAccess Jul 2018 #35

We constantly have elections with 10, 20, 30% turnout across the nation. yallerdawg Jul 2018 #44

They're not complaining about the machines RandomAccess Jul 2018 #75

no evidence of votes being "flipped", the attacks were to breed dissention and apathy among beachbum bob Jul 2018 #39

Yes that happened edhopper Jul 2018 #47

+1 ck4829 Jul 2018 #51

this is exactly why marlakay Jul 2018 #48

I don't think any votes were flipped at all. Captain Stern Jul 2018 #50

There really is no important difference between flipping a vote pnwmom Jul 2018 #56

K&R! edhopper Jul 2018 #58

Where are the thousands of people complaining? Captain Stern Jul 2018 #60

"I live in North Carolina. There hasn't been a single report in the media pnwmom Jul 2018 #87

Those links are informative Captain Stern Jul 2018 #94

You're moving the goalposts. You said there wasn't a single report of people pnwmom Jul 2018 #98

Well, no, that isn't exactly what I said Captain Stern Jul 2018 #137

Again. pnwmom Jul 2018 #139

I already said my statement was incorrect. Captain Stern Jul 2018 #141

You said it was "evidently incorrect" but that that didn't invalidate your point. pnwmom Jul 2018 #145

No, being incorrect on a detail doesn't invalidate my point at all. Captain Stern Jul 2018 #149

"Poll observer" was shorthand, sorry. She was a Senior Attorney with the Southern Coalition pnwmom Jul 2018 #153

Yes, she was talking about the reports she was seeing. Captain Stern Jul 2018 #160

You mean like not contesting the 2000 vote edhopper Jul 2018 #61

I guess Gore didn't really want to win any way. Captain Stern Jul 2018 #71

Then you don't remeber edhopper Jul 2018 #81

Gore lost because the Repukes scared the Dems from disputing military ballots. rzemanfl Jul 2018 #107

Many of us have been saying this since immediately after the election turned out the way it did. debsy Jul 2018 #52

Get Rid of the Electoral College. dem in texas Jul 2018 #54

Ok, how? Lee-Lee Jul 2018 #55

Well edhopper Jul 2018 #62

Ok for those- none show how Lee-Lee Jul 2018 #84

Here's How robersl Jul 2018 #63

And that's a more realistic possibility and fear Lee-Lee Jul 2018 #89

And we know the Russians hacked edhopper Jul 2018 #91

But We Did Notice robersl Jul 2018 #99

If 50,000 or 27,000 registered voters showed up and were turned away Lee-Lee Jul 2018 #110

I Think You Are Missing The Point robersl Jul 2018 #116

They would not have been turned away! forthemiddle Jul 2018 #136

Central tabulators Mister Ed Jul 2018 #112

No. That would be spotted immediately Lee-Lee Jul 2018 #114

I have indeed been part of an election at the county or state level. Mister Ed Jul 2018 #124

And that is only a few votes per precinct, I bet. Ilsa Jul 2018 #59

I wouldn't blame the press. Every Dem I heard always Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2018 #65

...like I been saying since 11/16.... joanbarnes Jul 2018 #67

I wish the Dems would just come out and say the election was probably stolen. gulliver Jul 2018 #68

And face it, they'd already be screaming day and night if situations were reversed LiberalLovinLug Jul 2018 #93

Yep gulliver Jul 2018 #111

That's partly true. They also had to be confident of Repub wins in FL and NC. LonePirate Jul 2018 #79

I was living in Florida in 2016 HockeyMom Jul 2018 #82

GOP know, they were counting on it IronLionZion Jul 2018 #95

If it works to sell "designer sunglasses" , or convince RWNJ's that Pizzagate is true, Fiendish Thingy Jul 2018 #100

How many pet rocks did they sell? world wide wally Jul 2018 #166

Millions. I still have one in the original box. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2018 #171

It is my belief that the low level actors who participated in this have already rainin Jul 2018 #101

"The problem is ignoring that the integrity has already been compromised." KPN Jul 2018 #103

No votes needed to be flipped -- Comey, Russian and trump lies, emails, damage from Dem primary, Hoyt Jul 2018 #109

from N.C. - somehow between Nov. 2016 and recent primary, my party affiliation was CHANGED Nevermypresident Jul 2018 #113

I get a printed receipt when I purchase something from a store... pbmus Jul 2018 #120

The key states that unexpectadly 'flipped' to Drumpf were all by 1% Rene Jul 2018 #125

I question your understanding of statistics....... MichMan Jul 2018 #128

In a 50/50 country... yallerdawg Jul 2018 #130

Thank you for all the recs edhopper Jul 2018 #132

Well said. I agree. Captain Stern Jul 2018 #155

Obvious to those of us who remember Diebold. Yet on DU there is a vociferous clacque blaming Hillary Hekate Jul 2018 #138

I've read the indictment several times. underthematrix Jul 2018 #157

About how the Russians knew what to do edhopper Jul 2018 #143

This! I've been screaming this since Nov. 9, 2016 jimlup Jul 2018 #158

The queerest thing about that campaign from my perspective here in PA bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #169