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DemocratSinceBirth

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112. We want the same outcome. Where we differ is in estimating the probability of it.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 03:33 PM
Jul 2018

I would like to see him led away in handcuffs or have a complete personality disintegration where he is unable to operate.

So tell us True Dough Jul 2018 #1
Yes. On my head. Over my face. To stimulate my mind. LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #2
LOL Zoonart Jul 2018 #3
And True Dough Jul 2018 #10
How did who smell? LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #11
The pants over your head? True Dough Jul 2018 #12
Uh...I don't wear pants over my head. LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #13
lol Hamlette Jul 2018 #118
WTF?!? catbyte Jul 2018 #36
Welcome to the club! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2018 #117
Not unless there are 67 Democratic senators. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #4
I do not think impeachment will be the mechanism. n/t LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #5
I would agree with you on that. roamer65 Jul 2018 #7
Removal or conviction requires 67 votes. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #9
He will be forced out of office by one of 2 ways: LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #14
Even if Mueller indicted him, the indictment would be challenged. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #15
I understand your position, but I believe LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #16
His base is represented by the Republicans in Congress. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #17
I'm not talking about conspiracy with the Russians. LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #18
Trump could have murdered someone and they wouldn't care. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #21
It is a cult Oldtimeralso Jul 2018 #177
I keep thinking back to what Steve Schmidt told Stephanie Ruhle on MSNBC about a year ago. PearliePoo2 Jul 2018 #42
I remember Watergate. Thought it was puzzling and a real "nothingburger", AND THEN!, SharonAnn Jul 2018 #48
hmmmm rtracey Jul 2018 #178
Nixon had a 29% percent approval rating when he was forced out.. whathehell Jul 2018 #51
Trump is openly breaking laws right now. Who is going to force him out? Garrett78 Jul 2018 #58
Respectfully, this is a fantasy. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #66
No fantasy here. We're in agreement. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #68
Not you. The others. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #74
Ungovernable Nasruddin Jul 2018 #73
Nothing much will get done. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #75
I think cheri010353 Jul 2018 #77
He is already unstable. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #82
You forget the carnival a case against Trump would be, televised. The Rethugs and Fox Maraya1969 Jul 2018 #141
And Republicans are helping Trump! True Blue American Jul 2018 #173
I'm hoping indictments of a number of republican congress persons Danascot Jul 2018 #189
Add Mark Meadows to that list. True Blue American Jul 2018 #190
Nixon resigned because he lacked the votes in the Senate to thwart conviction/removal. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #59
The charges against Nixon were SO much less serious than whathehell Jul 2018 #99
You are confusing pessimissm with realism. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #101
No, you are confusing opinion with fact. whathehell Jul 2018 #104
You offered an opinion. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #107
Yes, but, unlike you, I didn't confuse it with fact... whathehell Jul 2018 #109
We want the same outcome. Where we differ is in estimating the probability of it. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #112
Yeah, but I care. And so do millions and millions of other Americans. PatrickforO Jul 2018 #78
Fuck his base. orangecrush Jul 2018 #161
Removing him from office has nothing to do with affinity for Deplorables. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #179
Now, there's something I hadn't considered: JarOCats Jul 2018 #22
An indictment millstone around Trump's neck will have him tweeting oasis Jul 2018 #150
Don't tease me. JarOCats Jul 2018 #170
Key term: conviction world wide wally Jul 2018 #46
Mueller plays by the books. fallout87 Jul 2018 #63
Or an accident happens with "the old, outdated" Air Force 1 LiberalArkie Jul 2018 #72
There was outrage galore in the UK. Chemisse Jul 2018 #85
He knows that's a lie. He says things like that to keep his base with him. Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2018 #111
The public out rage is already there for most of the world lancelyons Jul 2018 #87
He can't be indicted while president. Orsino Jul 2018 #94
Well, that's open. It's never been tried. If Kavanaugh is confirmed, Trump won't be indicted. Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #159
Trump will never resign. If Kavanaugh is confirmed, he won't be indicted or convicted. Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #157
So, we're back to our last, best hope? Cholesterol? n/t kag Jul 2018 #167
Trump WILL NOT Resign Drake Notthesinger Jul 2018 #168
Let Me Speculate Here Cheviteau Jul 2018 #79
If their whole party was in cahoots with Russia DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #80
Bingo! Dream Girl Jul 2018 #138
impeachment is the ONLY mechanism fallout87 Jul 2018 #62
not true. AZ8theist Jul 2018 #86
How many presidents have been removed by the 25th amendment? fallout87 Jul 2018 #89
How many were charged with some of Treason or Espionage? whathehell Jul 2018 #100
Exactly. fallout87 Jul 2018 #106
Uh..No. whathehell Jul 2018 #181
The 25th Amendent is NOT the answer that you think it is ... PBC_Democrat Jul 2018 #139
He's mentally deficient AZ8theist Jul 2018 #191
I'm agreeing with you on his mental incapcity ... PBC_Democrat Jul 2018 #192
Simple majority in either House or Senate Tax Returns exposed ThoughtCriminal Jul 2018 #164
We won't need any more than that jmowreader Jul 2018 #50
I don't think they'll be pissed onlyadream Jul 2018 #53
Exactly. They're as corrupt and evil as Trump. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #57
Yup. My bet is that they'll seize on Tad Devine when it all breaks, KitSileya Jul 2018 #135
The GOP hates the same people Trump and his base does. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #70
They will be pissed he/they got caught. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #187
There were not 67 Democrats when Nixon was going to be impeached NewJeffCT Jul 2018 #185
The only reason Nixon resigned is because he didn't have the 67 votes in the Senate DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #186
He's not the only one who will be removed Generic Brad Jul 2018 #6
+1 LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #8
Bingo. American de-Nazification. (NM) JarOCats Jul 2018 #24
I agree 100%. volstork Jul 2018 #93
Hear, hear! Dream Girl Jul 2018 #140
+100! Rhiannon12866 Jul 2018 #166
Well said Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2018 #188
Trump will eventually be impeached. Impeachment will occur Hortensis Jul 2018 #19
I agree he'll get impeached... forgotmylogin Jul 2018 #35
Yes to that! Resignation to avoid removal and/or post-removal Hortensis Jul 2018 #43
You think more highly than I do of Republicans in Congress. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #60
No, I really don't! Their handlers have gotten some Hortensis Jul 2018 #84
Then why haven't they gotten rid of Trump yet? OliverQ Jul 2018 #133
Ask them. For sure they have reasons. I can offer, Hortensis Jul 2018 #137
I think you're far too optimistic. eallen Jul 2018 #20
I've resigned myself to Tangerine Wankmaggot getting two full terms. Different Drummer Jul 2018 #98
Im there too fallout87 Jul 2018 #113
Me too Raine Jul 2018 #172
It will have to be resignation Buckeyeblue Jul 2018 #23
Such a deal will be political suicide exboyfil Jul 2018 #28
25th Amendment solutions. nt NickB79 Jul 2018 #25
It can't be sustained in the Senate or the House exboyfil Jul 2018 #31
Maybe all that cholesterol will finally get him. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #26
Too good for him dflprincess Jul 2018 #56
I think that will happen anyhow. His name will be in the anti-pantheon of traitors The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #76
Yes! FM123 Jul 2018 #90
only the good die young Hamlette Jul 2018 #120
The military can remove him from office. roamer65 Jul 2018 #27
No way exboyfil Jul 2018 #33
No, they can't. shanny Jul 2018 #41
Yes they can and they just may. roamer65 Jul 2018 #122
The military is solidly behind trump. It's a white wing organization close to NRA in support Hoyt Jul 2018 #129
Won't Happen QuantaviousJackson Jul 2018 #29
The Republican party can Iliyah Jul 2018 #30
Maybe 45 fucked up... N_E_1 for Tennis Jul 2018 #32
Putin takes action against Trump exboyfil Jul 2018 #34
I'm thinking March of next year. Squinch Jul 2018 #37
I bet that indictments for Roger Stone, Don Jr, and Michael Cohen are on the way next Dopers_Greed Jul 2018 #38
I would like to think you're right, PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2018 #39
He'll make a deal. Naturally, it won't be a good one, Ilsa Jul 2018 #40
It would be fantastic if that happened but because of the complicit repukes, it's hard to imagine ailsagirl Jul 2018 #44
A When would be nice lame54 Jul 2018 #45
My guess? One of the following: LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #52
I do not think he will be removed elmac Jul 2018 #47
thats why we need to be ready to take to the streets onetexan Jul 2018 #55
I'd rather take them all to prison. calimary Jul 2018 #49
Wishful thinking redstateblues Jul 2018 #54
House and Senate chicago guy Jul 2018 #61
While that would be nice, it still won't correct an unjust election. Vinca Jul 2018 #64
Ryan is not running for reelection, he is gone come Jan 2019 Hamlette Jul 2018 #123
I know, but if an impeachment should take place prior to that, he's still in the line of succession. Vinca Jul 2018 #131
Ah, no he will not. No method can explain how it would happen. nt USALiberal Jul 2018 #65
Could be - but little good would it do us if Dense Pense takes office instead. sandensea Jul 2018 #67
You're right, but Pence would have little popularity with 45's cult members. Texin Jul 2018 #96
Not a chance until we take back the House and Senate. Oneironaut Jul 2018 #69
wishful thinking AlexSFCA Jul 2018 #71
At the end of the day Nixon resigned because he didn't have the votes to thwart conviction/removal DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #81
Hope is a good thing . . . MrModerate Jul 2018 #83
My sympathies sellitman Jul 2018 #88
Too pessimistic Saguaro Jul 2018 #91
I'm a pessimist alright. sellitman Jul 2018 #95
Mueller will be allowed to finish his job and will issue a damning report most Deplorables... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #97
What the Deplorables think of it is irrelevant. Saguaro Jul 2018 #103
They aren't Deplorable for nothing. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #108
"...no one that loves the USA will be able to ignore that." Saguaro Jul 2018 #114
What's the mechanism to remove Trump from office ? DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #115
"Mueller has already indicated he's not going to indict Trump" Saguaro Jul 2018 #116
Let's stipulate he indicts Trump. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #119
"And what are the chances this Supreme Court rules against Trump ?" Saguaro Jul 2018 #121
They unblinkingly upheld his Muslim travel ban. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #124
A travel ban...? Saguaro Jul 2018 #125
It was a simultaneous attack on Muslims and the First Amendment DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #127
Imo, two ways Trump might leave area51 Jul 2018 #92
I would hope so but I fear not... BlueJac Jul 2018 #102
2020 vote or an awakening of the American people... Loge23 Jul 2018 #105
IMHO, the best and realistic scenario DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #110
It is possible, loss of both houses will bring some Republicans to there senses. Hamlette Jul 2018 #128
As things get more heated I believe Trump is going to try to create civil unrest. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #130
New To Democratic Underground elser1939 Jul 2018 #126
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2018 #132
Anything is possible... Stuart G Jul 2018 #134
I was confident he'd be removed after the taxscam passed. ecstatic Jul 2018 #136
Republicans will not vote to impeach him oberliner Jul 2018 #142
I've said that a few times already. LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #143
Yes, I concur oberliner Jul 2018 #144
If Mueller indicts or even implicates Trump in any way for conspiracy against the US... Saguaro Jul 2018 #145
Yes, I think Republicans in Congress will stand by his side oberliner Jul 2018 #148
I disagree...they will force a resignation and then try to elect Pence as an incumbent in 2020. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #175
White wing racists - vast majority of GOPers - will expect nothing less Hoyt Jul 2018 #152
These people are NOT the vast majority of the country, though. Saguaro Jul 2018 #156
Hope you are right, but they should have turned already, if not before Nov 2016. Hoyt Jul 2018 #162
Since there's been no election since Nov 2016... Saguaro Jul 2018 #163
Again, hope you are right. But all this crud was quite apparent before November 2016, yet people Hoyt Jul 2018 #165
As soon as possible yuiyoshida Jul 2018 #146
Anyone waiting for logic or reason to assert itself bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #147
I think you're right karin_sj Jul 2018 #149
I'm not so sure. Calista241 Jul 2018 #151
I certainly hope so jimlup Jul 2018 #153
I hope you're right? Moral Compass Jul 2018 #154
He has a media outlet, SCOTUS, and both houses of congress Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2018 #155
I've been hoarding pallets Bonx Jul 2018 #158
Sadly it would make zero difference in most of our lives Nevernose Jul 2018 #160
And then, there's that Other Possibility Drake Notthesinger Jul 2018 #169
I believe you're absolutely wrong Raine Jul 2018 #171
Now, you're being too pessimistic. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #180
I am so hoping you are correct...I too think he can't survive. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #174
However or whatever... Mike Nelson Jul 2018 #176
even if the president drops dead today-Republicans will keep the same agenda. Sunlei Jul 2018 #182
I agree, and don't worry about the wannabe "cynics" here whathehell Jul 2018 #183
The moment Mueller ties American names (Trump & congressional) players to the 12 Russians it will... usaf-vet Jul 2018 #184
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