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MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 09:48 AM Jul 2018

A question for my fellow DUers, and my personal answer. [View all]

If and when and hopefully SOON, Donald Trump is removed from office, are you willing to give Mike Pence the benefit of the doubt as he assumes his new job?

MY answer is, of course, Hell F**k NO!

I see Pence as a religious nut job who signed discrimination and hatred and homophobia into law in Indiana. I see Mike Pence as an irredeemable ass kissing yes man who surrendered any particle of dignity that he might have ever had in exchange for his position hitched to the malignant Donald Trump "star." If I'd have had any respect for Mike Pence before, it would've disappeared the moment I saw the video of a meeting where he saw Trump put his water bottle on the floor and he followed suit immediately. And Republicans had a shit fit when President Obama got mustard on a cheeseburger? Jeezis!

If anything, I believe that Mike Pence may be even worse since he has just enough of a coating of smarm to him that he just might be able to con just enough voters to prolong the Trump/Pence nightmare until 2024.

I remember back in August of 1974 when new President Ford addressed the nation for the first time after Tricky Dickie's resignation, he concluded his remarks by saying "My fellow Americans, our long national nightmare is over." I felt a level of hope then that I'd never be able to feel with a creature of Mike Pence's nature. For all of Ford's faults, he was so much better a person than friggin' Mike Pence.

It was the most that I ever believed in a Republican president. I was born when IKE was in office but JFK is the first president that I remember. As sheerly awful as the other Republicans have been in my lifetime, I NEVER thought that Nixon, Reagan, Bush the first and Bush the worst were loyal to a hostile foreign power. Now we know that when Donald Trump says "America First," he's answering the question "which country should surrender to Russia?"

While saying nothing good about Reagan, whom my father always accurately referred to as Senile Sam, one thing that can't be denied is that he despised the Russians. He'd be furious to see the Republican party, which had been called the party of Reagan for some 35 years, become the party of Putin. I don't really care if some Republicans give lip service to criticizing Trump's treason. They've spent the last two years following him blindly to get any slack from me now.

SO, am I willing to give Mike Pence the benefit of the doubt when he assumes the presidency? Again, Hell f**k NO!

RESIST!

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Both are crackpots, I think Pence is far worse given his religious nutcase record. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2018 #1
Yes,... MarianJack Jul 2018 #3
I think he's worse too Raine Jul 2018 #29
there is little chance trump is removed AlexSFCA Jul 2018 #2
I hope you're wrong, but I suspect you're right. MarianJack Jul 2018 #6
No. Pence was MANAFORT'S VP plant. Trump wanted Christie & Manafort's tricked tblue37 Jul 2018 #4
I'd forgotten the Flynn fiasco. MarianJack Jul 2018 #19
THIS!!! This needs to be repeated again and again Docreed2003 Jul 2018 #27
Pence will not have the same pull as Trump with the base... brooklynite Jul 2018 #5
I'd always heard... MarianJack Jul 2018 #20
No. J_William_Ryan Jul 2018 #7
Sounds good to me. MarianJack Jul 2018 #21
No. Pence may not be Trumpcrazy but he is a very special kind of evil. FM123 Jul 2018 #8
Any way you put it,... MarianJack Jul 2018 #22
Give me Pence. I will give him no benefit of the doubt. NCTraveler Jul 2018 #9
Hopefully,... MarianJack Jul 2018 #23
Pence's term would be very short FakeNoose Jul 2018 #10
To sum up what you said so well,... MarianJack Jul 2018 #24
I don't trust any republican. SamKnause Jul 2018 #11
I don't want Pence to be president, Cold War Spook Jul 2018 #12
At this point, we have to risk Pence if trump can be removed. Pence is no longer obstacle to removin Hoyt Jul 2018 #13
I think it depends on the situation el_bryanto Jul 2018 #14
I agree with this post 100% Ohiogal Jul 2018 #15
No. He's another Russian stooge. WhiteTara Jul 2018 #16
+ 1000 Niagara Jul 2018 #30
No of course not. Pence is just as guilty as Turd; he's conspiring up to his eyeballs. lagomorph777 Jul 2018 #17
How far down the food chain do we have to go? Bayard Jul 2018 #18
Scary dude. Totally Tunsie Jul 2018 #25
Another "please don't impeach Trump" thread jberryhill Jul 2018 #26
This is NOT a please don't impeach thread. MarianJack Jul 2018 #40
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2018 #28
If the management of the Trump/Pence campaign are all HeiressofBickworth Jul 2018 #31
no Afromania Jul 2018 #32
No way stevil Jul 2018 #33
Not only no but HELL NO!! Doreen Jul 2018 #34
Pence is part of this too Generic Brad Jul 2018 #35
2028, not 2024 jmowreader Jul 2018 #36
I expect him to go down kacekwl Jul 2018 #37
Robot suprcali Jul 2018 #38
Not sure. tavernier Jul 2018 #39
There are only 3 ways Trump is removed from office. GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #41
I've been hoping that Chris Cristie gets lots of OT in his new job. MarianJack Jul 2018 #42
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