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Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:05 PM

Aug 2012

That isn't helping your cause. That was a discussion in which you claimed that the US supports child labor 100%. You were wrong, as several people pointed out to you.

But that has zero to do with you calling me a liar, which is against the rules here. Hint, someone disagreeing with you is not 'dishonest' nor is it 'lying'.

You have not responded to my comment regarding why I used quotes around the word you used to call me 'dishonest'.

Nor have you explained why someone not responding to a comment makes them 'dishonest'.

Next time think before you post, some people are far quicker with the alert feature than I am and do not appreciate being called 'dishonest' or 'liars'. Fortunately for you I have developed a very thick skin so rather than hit alert I offered you an opportunity to retract your accusation.

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True Democrats don't work to slash Social Security. They don't. Not Ever. [View all] MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 OP

K&R. Brickbat Jul 2012 #1

K to the R TransitJohn Jul 2012 #2

"These people should be thrown out of our party. " ProSense Jul 2012 #3

Barack Obama appointed Simpson and Bowles, the two most virulent haters of Social Security on MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #5

Biting the empty air again, Manny? banned from Kos Jul 2012 #6

Simpson-Bowles is dead MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #8

The ProSense Jul 2012 #7

And again MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #9

Are you implying that President Obama should be "thrown out of our party"? ProSense Jul 2012 #10

If he is for cutting SS then yes. MrSlayer Jul 2012 #21

If? ProSense Jul 2012 #25

I love this part ProSense Jul 2012 #29

I'm surprised you'd publicly admit to it MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #30

Obama's gonna announce the cuts in the SOTU ProSense Jul 2012 #34

I predicted he'd call for cuts and he did MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #37

Yeah, ProSense Jul 2012 #43

Are you for real? MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #73

Good god. I hadn't seen that clip before. woo me with science Jul 2012 #88

"That was the beginning of his cutesy "cut vs. slash" crap: " ProSense Jul 2012 #131

Manny is the master of "willful confusion". Reminds me a lot of the current "You Didn't Build That" emulatorloo Jul 2012 #156

It's so simple, raise the income subject to tax. Does it take an actuary? xtraxritical Jul 2012 #194

I don't love it. MrSlayer Jul 2012 #54

This ProSense Jul 2012 #129

I was using him as an example. MrSlayer Jul 2012 #208

+ 1...Yes it is..There are a number here not old enough to remember the Democratic Party pre-Clinton whathehell Jul 2012 #189

That's it in a nutshell. The current favorite neo-democratic plan calls for 2 to 1 cuts Dragonfli Jul 2012 #217

Sad to realize tht so many in office are truedelphi Jul 2012 #218

Simple alert bait, you mean. FiveGoodMen Jul 2012 #216

This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #33

Yes, dead ProSense Jul 2012 #35

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #165

Yes, it was a terrible day when Obama signed the Catfood Law emulatorloo Jul 2012 #168

just wait pepito Jul 2012 #173

I've got two words for you - Ryan Budget. A tangible existing REAL plan to destroy the safety net. emulatorloo Jul 2012 #174

uhhmm pepito Jul 2012 #180

Obama's "Secret Plan" versus Ryan's Real Plan emulatorloo Jul 2012 #184

ive seen massive poverty pepito Jul 2012 #210

Only Nixon could go to China.. girl gone mad Jul 2012 #237

I have to add that Obama must not believe that the Social Security Trust Fund JDPriestly Jul 2012 #57

Did you see the recent article by Dean Baker? abelenkpe Jul 2012 #58

And he appointed Bernanke and Geithner. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #55

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #67

'FUCK seniors and savers'??? So you agree with Republican Alan Simpson then? sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #134

No that wasn't sarcasm. Never thought I would see a regular poster on DU post that and still Autumn Jul 2012 #150

+1. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #257

Completely appalling to read that here suffragette Jul 2012 #154

He needs to be banned from here, as well. closeupready Jul 2012 #171

Actually, seniors and savers are trying to live on the fruits of their own labor. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #143

Nobody ever mentions that Baby Boomers paid *twice*, for themselves and the previous generation newthinking Jul 2012 #212

THANK YOU!....n/t whathehell Jul 2012 #221

I agree with you. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #246

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer, especially if you're an attorney. nt patrice Jul 2012 #128

NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO POINT FINGERS!!! Hotler Jul 2012 #230

And subsequently tossed that report in the recycle bin, and we got sequester instead Hippo_Tron Aug 2012 #297

"If President Obama ever cuts Social Security, I'll personally kick his ass." R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2012 #69

My bad ProSense Jul 2012 #109

Not at all. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2012 #120

"if he were to cut SS when he is re-elected" IF IF IF. emulatorloo Jul 2012 #177

Folks here have short memories. The only reason it hasn't already happened newthinking Jul 2012 #213

If he didn't intend to "compromise" he wouldn't be pretending like their talking points have merit. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #320

Yes, we do have the Ryan plan. And the only way to stop Republicans from destroying the sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #219

Really. I was asking from a clarification from the poster prosense. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2012 #222

Kicking shoes are a lot like "comfortable shoes." hay rick Jul 2012 #199

Sure you will. girl gone mad Jul 2012 #236

SS and Medicare are worth fighting for. Any Dem who doesn't isn't a Dem. n/t Avalux Jul 2012 #4

Manny, Manny, Manny.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #11

Briefing room word games: What's a 'slash' versus a 'cut' in Social Security? MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #13

Not "slash", but completely agreeable to, if not eager for, "cuts". NorthCarolina Jul 2012 #148

Very true madokie Jul 2012 #12

It has been frozen for a couple of years, seniors are dropping behind as costs climb. braddy Jul 2012 #14

K&R Change has come Jul 2012 #15

Preach it! Mojorabbit Jul 2012 #16

I have friends between 65 and 69. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #59

The verbiage is wrong PSPS Jul 2012 #17

The Social Security Insurance Trust Fund can loan out money. DhhD Jul 2012 #18

You're wrong on one point.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #19

The payroll tax holiday is Obama's work, Obama's fault. No one, not even JDPriestly Jul 2012 #63

That's assuming you think they actually are being repaid. JayhawkSD Jul 2012 #157

DURec !! bvar22 Jul 2012 #20

Another Democrat ProSense Jul 2012 #23

Good question! JDPriestly Jul 2012 #64

This guy agrees with you on a "simple lifting of the Cap" . bvar22 Jul 2012 #196

Right! JDPriestly Aug 2012 #244

Exactly. You see clearly what is going on. And no matter how many denials there are, those facts sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #303

The payroll tax holiday OnyxCollie Jul 2012 #48

Yeah. I just read about Kerrey's 10 point plan to save SS. pa28 Jul 2012 #22

Protecting SS does not "poll well" with the Very Serious People.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #24

Kick & Rec!!! jannyk Jul 2012 #26

22%, right Manny?...nt SidDithers Jul 2012 #27

IIRC, Simpson Bowles calls for a 22% cut in benefits MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #28

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #32

oh, it's Manny, campaigning against Obama in an election season again. bless your little heart for dionysus Jul 2012 #31

so, when did Obama say he wants to cut social security? quinnox Jul 2012 #50

I'd much rather have putrid shoes and speak the truth Cherchez la Femme Aug 2012 #248

To All The Poster's Jumping Manny's Post... WillyT Jul 2012 #36

I like! MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #39

What would it matter in the long run, Manny? If President Obama does agree to the great bargain R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2012 #96

Wow ProSense Jul 2012 #40

No Pro... There Are Numbers Of Stories, All Un-sourced, That Leads Some Of Us To Believe This Is... WillyT Jul 2012 #44

Yeah ProSense Jul 2012 #49

I can't understand why so many people feel this way?? kentuck Jul 2012 #60

Oh, I don't ProSense Jul 2012 #62

For the same reasons 99% Teabaggers "feel" that Obama has raised their taxes emulatorloo Jul 2012 #161

"There Are Numbers of Stories, All -->UN_SOURCED<---" emulatorloo Jul 2012 #147

New To Politics, Are We ??? WillyT Jul 2012 #232

Obama is a neoliberal.. girl gone mad Jul 2012 #238

Pro Sense, if Obama does agree to a deal on Social Security, JDPriestly Jul 2012 #66

Nothing ProSense Jul 2012 #70

What exactly has Obama been waiting on? SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #74

Obama hasn't gotten the Bush tax cuts repealed for the wealthiest MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #75

Wait ProSense Jul 2012 #80

they were going to "automatically expire" once before Doctor_J Jul 2012 #229

At least that is something he wants SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #81

Rep. Conyers: Obama Demanded Social Security Cuts--Not GOP MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #82

Another Democrat ProSense Jul 2012 #83

Are you claiming that Conyers is lying? MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #85

Oh, ProSense Jul 2012 #87

I never claimed that. MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #93

Yes SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #92

Really? John Conyers Owes the President an Apology SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #91

Right, it's not cuts -- just adjustments that will result in lower benefits. eomer Jul 2012 #146

Has Social Security been cut? SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #182

Well, mine hasn't. RebelOne Jul 2012 #191

Your social security hasn't been cut? SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #205

Are you making a distinction between "lowering" and "cutting" benefits? eomer Jul 2012 #226

White House Statement: SunsetDreams Aug 2012 #251

What does "preserves the promise" mean? eomer Aug 2012 #255

Well SunsetDreams Aug 2012 #259

yes, let's not discuss it until it happens. by which time it will be too late to do anything. what HiPointDem Aug 2012 #249

I have no problem with discussion SunsetDreams Aug 2012 #250

I call a new formula that results in people getting less benefits a plan to cut benefits -- as would HiPointDem Aug 2012 #253

Oh I see, SunsetDreams Aug 2012 #254

who are you trying to kid? HiPointDem Aug 2012 #256

Oh another rumor mill piece lol SunsetDreams Aug 2012 #260

The NYT is now the rumor mill? I can't imagine what you think a legitimate news outlet is, then. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #261

I can't believe you are posting links to that sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #269

The link you posted is full of people bashing DU.. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #288

Yep. There are those that want to change historical memory on this board newthinking Jul 2012 #214

It proves there is no Boehner and Cantor in MannyLand emulatorloo Jul 2012 #200

Should Lincoln have fired his losing generals? MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #225

I think you got that backwards. It is the very existence of Cantor and Boehner in Mannyland sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #270

Nailed IT!!! bvar22 Aug 2012 #308

+1. "To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully HiPointDem Aug 2012 #319

If Obama gets a second term, which I desperately hope he does, I suspect there will be no compromise still_one Jul 2012 #166

he could have divined that out after 6 months Doctor_J Jul 2012 #231

I hope so. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #245

If Obama ends up cutting Social Security or Medicare, I GUARANTEE you, all the people Marr Jul 2012 #242

Du rec. Nt xchrom Jul 2012 #38

Got any other purity tests? (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #41

Reestablishing slavery or child labor MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #46

Child Labor *remains* 100% legal in the United States. Always shocks people. Romulox Jul 2012 #215

No, it doesn't "remain 100% legal." HiPointDem Aug 2012 #258

Um, yes, it is. I quoted the relevant regulations, verbatim, as they appear on BLS.gov. Romulox Aug 2012 #263

And the *exact same* information from the DOL website. Romulox Aug 2012 #264

You miss my point. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #265

You don't have a point; you're contrary to be contrary. Much of our food is picked by CHILDREN. Romulox Aug 2012 #266

"remains 100% legal". child labor does not *remain* *100%* *legal* -- e.g. we no longer have child HiPointDem Aug 2012 #267

So now we are playing games of semantics? No thanks. Find someone else to follow around. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #272

What do you mean 'playing games of semantics'? Could you clarify that sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #273

Child labor is most certainly legal in this country, in the agricultural field. It's a disgrace, Romulox Aug 2012 #277

Ah, you are talking about Farming. Those laws do not translate into 'child labor is 100% legal' sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #309

You responded to me with "And do you have a link to your claim that 'most of our food..." You knew Romulox Aug 2012 #312

Let me remind me of what you said. You said the the US supports Child Labor 100% sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #314

No I didn't. That's ANOTHER fucking misquote. You have ZERO INTEGRITY. Romulox Aug 2012 #316

Here's the quote, from this VERY thread: "Child Labor *remains* 100% legal in the United States." Romulox Aug 2012 #317

DOL.gov: "Under 12: You may work outside of school hours in any non-hazardous job on a small farm" Romulox Aug 2012 #278

More links to ignore/not read. Take Action: End Child Labor in US Agriculture Romulox Aug 2012 #280

More stuff to distort/misquote/ignore: ABC News Investigation: The Blueberry Children Romulox Aug 2012 #281

Oh Sabrina, I see you ignored *every last one* of those links in your attempt to pile on! Romulox Aug 2012 #305

Actually, I did not ignore them. I have responded, see above. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #310

You responded by pretending to not know we were talking about food production, even though you Romulox Aug 2012 #313

I responded to what you said. You said that 'child labor remains 100% legal in this country'. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #318

??? sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #323

More misquotes. Even less integrity. Last response to you (ever). nt Romulox Aug 2012 #324

I have several in fact. white_wolf Jul 2012 #114

5. Rework ALL "free trade" deals to where they're either "fair trade" or abolished completely. HughBeaumont Jul 2012 #188

Principles are truly horrible things, aren't they? girl gone mad Jul 2012 #239

Absolutely agree. Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #42

K&R. Thanks. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #45

of course, a no brainer if you ask me quinnox Jul 2012 #47

K&R. Social Security, with its three trillion dollar surplus is off limits! reformist2 Jul 2012 #51

"Slash"? Or do you mean "tweak"? Or "fix"? I'm 100% in favor of preserving Soc Security.... Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #52

There is nothing wrong with Social Security. RC Jul 2012 #68

I think there is. This is about the third time I've seen this happen. Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #233

No, not really. girl gone mad Jul 2012 #240

Ever wonder if you're buying into a lie? MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #78

I don't think I am. I researched it long ago. This was expected to happen, BTW, before Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #234

Pssst. You must have gotten the wrong schedule. woo me with science Jul 2012 #94

We goddam fucking well have ALREADY taxed our way out of it! eridani Jul 2012 #144

I don't recall that. So I looked it up. Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #235

Nothing was stolen. girl gone mad Jul 2012 #241

I'll 'splain it to you. Printing money.... Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #275

Sorry, but you are 100% wrong. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #289

You misunderstand. I didn't say anywhere in my post that printing $ was the ONLY cause of inflation. Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #315

K&R. nt OnyxCollie Jul 2012 #53

Is this the story that has you thinking social security may be cut? abelenkpe Jul 2012 #56

Sorry. Third Way is here to stay. limpyhobbler Jul 2012 #61

Leaving social security as is = cutting benefits. I wonder how many understand this. dkf Jul 2012 #65

Enjoy your vouchers Yeah Its Spin Jul 2012 #71

Democrats DO NOT destroy Social Security.... lib2DaBone Jul 2012 #72

The "Democrats" you speak of were purged from the party long ago NorthCarolina Jul 2012 #151

No, they don't. Not real ones. woo me with science Jul 2012 #76

What if we could cut SS to one recipient Zanzoobar Jul 2012 #77

How could that possibly happen? nt MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #84

and no true scotsman arely staircase Jul 2012 #79

"People that aren't from Scotland aren't Scotsmen" JoeyT Jul 2012 #101

i come from a long line of the sons of Alban arely staircase Jul 2012 #130

I will go a step further, there is no difference between those democrats and the republicans. still_one Jul 2012 #86

That's why they will postpone it woo me with science Jul 2012 #89

Careful where you tread. OnyxCollie Jul 2012 #97

I made no such comparison. Any democrat who dismantles Social Security is no Democrat. If still_one Jul 2012 #164

I agree with you. OnyxCollie Jul 2012 #172

Appreciate the cautionary note /nt still_one Jul 2012 #186

Hey, those bluemutts have their ... 99Forever Jul 2012 #90

They don't have to rks306 Jul 2012 #95

Manny... attempting divide and conquer again scheming daemons Jul 2012 #98

Ah, you got the correct schedule, I see. woo me with science Jul 2012 #99

You should check it out, links to back it up SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #100

Here's a link for you: woo me with science Jul 2012 #102

LOL unnecessary Administrative costs don't cut it nt SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #103

Obama cut Medicare is a RW talking point. n/t ProSense Jul 2012 #105

People just believe anything that unnamed sources tell them. SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #107

Conyers is not an unnamed source. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #268

Still trying desperately to avoid the President's own proposal, huh? woo me with science Jul 2012 #113

Still avoiding this? SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #116

What a fucking pantload. What unadulterated right-wing bullcrap that is. woo me with science Jul 2012 #125

Are you serious? Peoples View is Liberal SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #138

You believe that site is liberal? girl gone mad Aug 2012 #290

Where on earth do you get that? woo me with science Jul 2012 #106

No, you should look into it SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #108

So you have nothing. woo me with science Jul 2012 #111

Obama Aide On Social Security Cut Story: It 'Overshoots The Runway' SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #115

Obviously you are ignoring the oily exchange pointed out here: woo me with science Jul 2012 #118

Christian Science Monitor? No thank you SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #119

There's a video at the link, genius. nt woo me with science Jul 2012 #123

got another link? SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #139

What's wrong with the Christian Science Monitor? girl gone mad Aug 2012 #291

And one for you: ProSense Jul 2012 #104

More non-responsive crap. woo me with science Jul 2012 #110

Wait ProSense Jul 2012 #112

The Washington Post report of Obama's "Grand Bargain": woo me with science Jul 2012 #122

I see the problem ProSense Jul 2012 #124

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #126

WTF? n/t ProSense Jul 2012 #127

So that's the best you can do? Vattel Aug 2012 #321

Do you have a link to a media report stating that MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #322

John Conyers is not a liar. Thank you for the links. I remember that last statement sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #142

Yep, some here conveniently leave out that little "poison nugget" newthinking Aug 2012 #243

K&R! n/t whatchamacallit Jul 2012 #117

True Democrats don't put their citizens in internment camps. They don't. Not Ever...nt SidDithers Jul 2012 #121

True Democrats do not support assassinating American Citizens without charges or trial. What is your sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #135

True Democrats don't use Skinners web site to post dumbass OPs campaigning against Dems, either. nt dionysus Jul 2012 #136

So what's the punchline? Iggo Jul 2012 #132

Just the usual Fox-and-Friends-style fear and smear stuff that Mr. Manny does. emulatorloo Jul 2012 #153

The economy will be bad, many will think they must accept the unthinkable to get what they want... jtuck004 Jul 2012 #133

Looking upthread, it appears that Chef DLC brought the copypasta! Poll_Blind Jul 2012 #137

Oh noes SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #140

Actually no. Manny creates strawman Democrats. emulatorloo Jul 2012 #152

And the 119 recs are just DUers who are just easily duped? And only you and a few others who... Poll_Blind Jul 2012 #160

Some DU'ers enjoy Manny's brand of "truthiness" emulatorloo Jul 2012 #163

The Ryan plan has no chance of passing. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #292

Manny could post the phone book and the usual suspects would give it 100+ recs...nt SidDithers Jul 2012 #193

Calling out DUers as a group? Who are the 'usual suspects'? sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #198

And I imagine the "other" group of usual suspects would then immediately LanternWaste Jul 2012 #204

I'm flattered by the thought! MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #228

kr and piss on the folks pretending like the bargaining hasn't been going on. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #141

Absolutely true. cali Jul 2012 #145

Karl Rove toolbox: Speculative Bullshit as Fact, Willful misinterpretation, Out of context quotes emulatorloo Jul 2012 #149

K&R (n/t) a2liberal Jul 2012 #155

Related Thread: "Why Romney keeps attacking things Obama didn�t say" emulatorloo Jul 2012 #158

Definitely, positively, absolutely ... any second ... here it comes .... here it comes ... JoePhilly Jul 2012 #159

It is odd to me that Manny never writes about the Ryan Plan emulatorloo Jul 2012 #169

You're calling a member in good standing a 'troll?' leftstreet Jul 2012 #181

I don't know what to call a member who continuosly makes up shit about Democrats emulatorloo Jul 2012 #185

Well, I thought he was a troll, too. procon Aug 2012 #279

Well, you can be forgiven for being wrong seeing as you appear to be new to DU. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #285

"Forgiven"??? procon Aug 2012 #294

Alright, 'excused' then, for being so wrong about the OP. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #301

It's like the NRA saying that Obama not taking your guns in term #1 PROVES he will take them JoePhilly Jul 2012 #195

Perfect analogy. emulatorloo Jul 2012 #202

The Ryan plan is horrific MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #227

President Carter, not a "true Democrat" ProSense Jul 2012 #162

Bob Kerry came out yesterday and said he would /nt still_one Jul 2012 #167

He's running for Congress right? ProSense Jul 2012 #170

yes, Nelson's seat from Nebraska. At least I think that is what the OP is referring to. /nt still_one Jul 2012 #187

K&R bahrbearian Jul 2012 #175

K&R calmeco702 Jul 2012 #176

K&R leftstreet Jul 2012 #178

Everyone, do yourselves a favor and... fascisthunter Jul 2012 #179

I like to read their fantastic wishing and baseless accusations. It's somehow comforting to see Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #197

"Fantastic wishing and baseless accusations" is a good description of the OP emulatorloo Jul 2012 #201

Really? How so? It was our Democratic President that both created the catfood commission, Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #209

NOT ONE of pepito Jul 2012 #211

NOT ONE of ProSense Aug 2012 #286

It's so dead that the NY Times just published a major op-ed pushing for its recommendations.. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #295

So ProSense Aug 2012 #296

Obama opened Pandora's box. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #299

You can't be serious. n/t ProSense Aug 2012 #302

Can you ever answer a direct question? girl gone mad Aug 2012 #304

Well, ProSense Aug 2012 #307

True Democrats should support Main St over Wall St. raouldukelives Jul 2012 #183

The payroll tax cuts ALREADY Damages the long term solvency of SS! Note grahamhgreen Jul 2012 #190

Sure they do, if they are redefined to repub-lite stupidicus Jul 2012 #192

That would be political suicide for the D's to cut SS. Jamaal510 Jul 2012 #203

k&r! nt bananas Jul 2012 #206

Please get this message to our president! lark Jul 2012 #207

Manny, I guess we're supposed to forget last summer's "Grand Bargain" Oilwellian Jul 2012 #220

Thanks for including the TYT- they've done a great job covering these "deals". nt Poll_Blind Jul 2012 #223

Thanks for the memories. hay rick Jul 2012 #224

Most of us have not forgotten, excellent post and it's hard to understand how sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #271

Thanks so much Oilwellian Aug 2012 #283

I won't either, it has made many people very nervous regardless of the attempt to sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #311

Very depressing Teamster Jeff Aug 2012 #276

This message was self-deleted by its author Zorra Aug 2012 #247

K&R AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #252

I can think of several scenarios where good democrats would stevenleser Aug 2012 #262

Damn Right!! hobbit709 Aug 2012 #274

There are SO many things wrong with that OP NashvilleLefty Aug 2012 #282

Welcome to DU. We all watched this from the beginning and I disagree with you completely. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #284

It's dead ProSense Aug 2012 #287

Unfortunately, the arrow of time is unidirectional. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #298

What? ProSense Aug 2012 #300

Time is unidirectional. Ideas/proposals aren't. yellowcanine Aug 2012 #326

Let see: You *did* have time to pile on, upthread, but *didn't* have time to read any links... Romulox Aug 2012 #306

So-called Democrat Erskin Bowles, co-chair of what we Dems call the Catfood Commission... Oilwellian Aug 2012 #293

Granted. And what exactly was the problem being solved by the OP again? yellowcanine Aug 2012 #325