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75. Hillary Clinton was opposed to the TPP

Wed Jul 18, 2018, 10:52 AM

Jul 2018

Are you saying her supporters were "trolls"?

Clinton has publicly opposed the TPP since October, 2015, when the text of the deal was finalized. "I oppose it now, I'll oppose it after the election and I'll oppose it as president," she said at a campaign rally in Michigan in August.

http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-policy-on-tpp-trade-deal-2016-10

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Remember all that TPP trollery here during 2016? [View all] Skidmore Jul 2018 OP

Well that ought to leave a mark, Historic NY Jul 2018 #1

K&R Scurrilous Jul 2018 #2

K&R nt NCTraveler Jul 2018 #3

Definitely remember it, and it wasn't just trolls. As we get closer to trading among ourselves, Hoyt Jul 2018 #4

We were proud TPP supporters. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #8

There was a lot of trollery about a lot of things. MineralMan Jul 2018 #5

That site we shall not name siphoned a lot of them off Recursion Jul 2018 #10

Yes. They abandoned ship and fled to safer ground, I guess. MineralMan Jul 2018 #11

I was over there for awhile. Mr.Bill Jul 2018 #26

TPP and Keystone XL were known subjects of Russian active measures Recursion Jul 2018 #6

Yes. Skidmore Jul 2018 #7

A discussion of the merits of pipelines vs. rail transport would have been a good one to have Recursion Jul 2018 #9

I wrote a couple of long posts discussing that here. MineralMan Jul 2018 #12

After a Global Economics course I took, I posted why the TPP would suck for everyone BUT China! TheBlackAdder Jul 2018 #13

100% correct nt elmac Jul 2018 #48

Some on this board were vociferous in their hatred of TPP mcar Jul 2018 #14

To be fair, Bernie Sanders was staunchly opposed to TPP oberliner Jul 2018 #15

Yes, he was mcar Jul 2018 #18

To be fair, Bernie Sanders was wrong. But it was a great cudgel, wasn't it? Hekate Jul 2018 #22

I wish Clinton hadn't backed down on the issue Recursion Jul 2018 #24

Why labor unions oppose the Trans-Pacific Partnership Omaha Steve Jul 2018 #63

LOL the reason for low wages isn't trade.. JHan Jul 2018 #73

Yes! And Donnie Short Fingers, the Retrumplicans and maxrandb Jul 2018 #76

that doesn't make any sense. Either you are for it or you are for Trump and the republicans? JCanete Jul 2018 #81

Hilary came out against TPP Omaha Steve Jul 2018 #82

And to be fair, he and his convention disruptors got EXACTLY what they wanted. LisaM Jul 2018 #25

Yippee Hekate Jul 2018 #58

Oh yes ismnotwasm Jul 2018 #30

That was about the ACA mcar Jul 2018 #31

That's right! ismnotwasm Jul 2018 #52

Oh yeah! mcar Jul 2018 #54

Amen. Never forgive, never forget. Sorry I am a bit bitter today, what with a treasonous potus & all Hekate Jul 2018 #61

I'm right there with you mcar Jul 2018 #70

We still have anti TPP and NAFTA members here. Quite a few. GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #16

so being against one sided, job killing trade deals elmac Jul 2018 #49

I left out the word not( ironic on today of all days! It's fixed) GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #51

Machines are job killers, and it is only going to get worse. Blue_true Jul 2018 #60

I do not share your pessimism GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #62

The issue as of now. Blue_true Jul 2018 #64

TPP was a net job creator for the USA. Blue_true Jul 2018 #56

Agreed GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #57

No, but believing that President Obama maxrandb Jul 2018 #77

They don't know the right way. Blue_true Jul 2018 #55

Like those dirty stinking union members? Omaha Steve Jul 2018 #68

TPP was like any international agreement ... Whiskeytide Jul 2018 #17

Blanketyblank yes I certainly do remember. Not one of DU's prouder moments. nt Hekate Jul 2018 #19

Yes I do. First thing that came to mind when I read the news about Japan and Europe. Nitram Jul 2018 #20

It wasn't all trolls. There are people who don't understand EllieBC Jul 2018 #21

Canada got TPP revised and then joined in. World now trading around USA. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #23

all the trade deals this country signs elmac Jul 2018 #27

Hey, I'm all for trade deals that ship our jobs overseas and destroy the middleclass elmac Jul 2018 #28

Huh??? Skidmore Jul 2018 #32

How you loving the protectionist tariffs, then? bettyellen Jul 2018 #36

oh brother elmac Jul 2018 #43

And we're left out in the cold holding our..............whatever. Remember all the haranguing..... George II Jul 2018 #29

Yup. Skidmore Jul 2018 #33

You DO remember that she came out AGAINST TPP in the primaries? karynnj Jul 2018 #37

Yes she did, she didn't like the last draft (don't think it ever was final).... George II Jul 2018 #65

The changes from 2013 to th final version agreed upon by the international community karynnj Jul 2018 #67

You can't separate Clinton's position from the political climate at the time. JHan Jul 2018 #74

As I said, it was a political decision karynnj Jul 2018 #83

An understandable political decision given the climate... JHan Jul 2018 #84

I get she decided that on dealing with Bernie karynnj Jul 2018 #86

I think she didn't want further antagonism - that was my reading of it.. JHan Jul 2018 #87

My memory is 180 degrees different - The MAJORITY view here was TPP was evil karynnj Jul 2018 #34

Hoyt and I were vocal proponents of TPP on this board. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #35

Exactly. Obama took a lot of misplaced flak on TPP, NAFTA and Trans-Atlantic agreement. Hoyt Jul 2018 #38

Every Democratic president since FDR has advocated free trade. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #40

Exactly karynnj Jul 2018 #41

The campaign against TPP on this board was ferocious. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #44

It was really just a very vocal sector- notably the Manny acolytes who were being very bettyellen Jul 2018 #39

I was a coward and posted only when I had something where Obama, Kerry or others spoke of it karynnj Jul 2018 #42

I knew it was above my pay grade to judge the agreement, but so many others were just spewing from bettyellen Jul 2018 #66

I remember. I even got private mail by someone who wanted to throw me in a woodchipper after Hoyt Jul 2018 #45

so, what I've gathered from reading the posts on this thread elmac Jul 2018 #46

I agree, most on DU were anti-TPP tammywammy Jul 2018 #85

Not naming names, but I took a lot of shit from certain DUers Blue_Tires Jul 2018 #47

we asked for Democratic amendments to a bill which weakened consumer rights bigtree Jul 2018 #50

I am willing to admit when I was wrong. nycbos Jul 2018 #53

That's Class.. all the way! Cha Jul 2018 #59

The emotional appeal of 1950s America will. never. ever. die. Yavin4 Jul 2018 #69

1950s America, where women were fired overnight after VJ Day so men could have their jobs back... Hekate Jul 2018 #71

I see the misinformation about the TPP remains ... JHan Jul 2018 #72

Hillary Clinton was opposed to the TPP former9thward Jul 2018 #75

Nor was Clinton the only "troll" Jim Lane Jul 2018 #78

I lulz'd KG Jul 2018 #79

Just because we didn't like the TPP as it was doesn't mean we were against trade deals. There's a JCanete Jul 2018 #80