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Garrett78

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Wed Jul 18, 2018, 02:55 PM Jul 2018

The Republican Party isn't shrinking. [View all]

I keep seeing posts about how the Republican base is shrinking but I've seen no evidence to support that claim. We'd all like it to be true, but believing doesn't make it so.

Someone posted a couple of articles that point to the Gallup survey as evidence for the claim, but the Gallup survey doesn't actually support the claim.

Now, if you go back to 2004, you do see a pretty substantial decline in party affiliation and a rise in the number of people claiming no affiliation (i.e, 'independents').

But there's been very little change in recent years: https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx. The most recent survey was taken in June.

In June of this year, 27% self-identify as Rep., 43% as independents and 29% as Dem.

In June of 2017, those numbers were 26, 42 and 30, respectively.

In June of 2016, it was 27, 41 and 30.

In June of 2015, it was 25, 41 and 31.

In June of 2014, it was 24, 46 and 28.

In June of 2013, it was 26, 41 and 31.

Anyway, you get the idea.

Lastly, I will once again remind everyone that the vast majority of so-called "independents" are actually very partisan. They just like calling themselves "independent" for one reason or another (wanting to sound reasonable, being too embarrassed to admit who they truly support, wanting to avoid political conversations, or whatever the reason may be). It's been all the rage lately to argue that Republican affiliation is undergoing a precipitous decline (and that that's why Trump's popularity within the Republican Party is so sky high), but I've seen no polling data that supports that. Wishing doesn't make it so.

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Their polling is stuck at 35% give or take 4%. onecaliberal Jul 2018 #1
Who's polling? Where did you get the 35% figure from? Garrett78 Jul 2018 #5
Just about every polling agency. onecaliberal Jul 2018 #7
So, just about every polling agency has different numbers than Gallup? Do you have any links? Garrett78 Jul 2018 #10
Google is your friend. onecaliberal Jul 2018 #32
See post #24. I've Googled and the only party-affiliation chart I've seen is the one in the OP. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #33
The Republican Party is dying. PubliusEnigma Jul 2018 #2
The Republican Party is certainly rotten. But, alas, Trump's approval rating is holding steady. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #31
According to 2018 primaries, the GOP participation rate is way down, so beachbum bob Jul 2018 #3
There's a difference between enthusiasm (which fluctuates a lot) and party affiliation. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #4
Do single data point comparisons is not Phoenix61 Jul 2018 #6
Link? Garrett78 Jul 2018 #8
I crunched the numbers from the poll Phoenix61 Jul 2018 #9
The last 6 months look like this: Garrett78 Jul 2018 #12
Republicans by quarters Phoenix61 Jul 2018 #16
Every couple months the demise of the gop is announced dembotoz Jul 2018 #11
As I said, people wanting something to be true doesn't make it true. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #24
It's Gallup! Me. Jul 2018 #13
I've not found a party affiliation chart from any other source. Have you? If so, please post. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #14
If I Was Looking THe Last Place I'd Go To Is Gallup Me. Jul 2018 #17
Please provide evidence that contradicts Gallup. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #23
You Might Try 538 Me. Jul 2018 #25
It isn't a matter of disagreeing. It's a matter of data. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #27
Then There Are Plenty Of Threads On The Front Page That Have Different Data Me. Jul 2018 #28
The front page of what? DU? Garrett78 Jul 2018 #30
You Know What...Enough Me. Jul 2018 #34
So, as I said in the OP, there's no data to support the claim of a precipitous decline. Got it. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #35
Independent or Undecided voters are far more dangerous than r's superpatriotman Jul 2018 #15
Undecided voters are swing voters. Independent voters are not. 2 totally different beasts. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #19
No...it's metastasizing . kentuck Jul 2018 #18
It's holding remarkably steady. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #21
It's may not be shrinking, but it is rotting. n/t Greybnk48 Jul 2018 #20
That party has been rotten to the core ever since the Civil Rights Movement. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #22
I think their rotteness spans further back than this dustyscamp Jul 2018 #36
Yes. It's just that there was a pretty radical shift in party identification... Garrett78 Jul 2018 #37
Happy Adjusters Awsi Dooger Jul 2018 #26
We agree on the first part. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #29
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