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tammywammy

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85. I agree, most on DU were anti-TPP

Wed Jul 18, 2018, 10:02 PM

Jul 2018

I was for it, and disappointed when Hillary changed her stance but felt it was the political thing to do. I think I only posted my support of it a couple times, because frankly I didn't want to deal with getting flamed for being pro-free trade.

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Remember all that TPP trollery here during 2016? [View all] Skidmore Jul 2018 OP

Well that ought to leave a mark, Historic NY Jul 2018 #1

K&R Scurrilous Jul 2018 #2

K&R nt NCTraveler Jul 2018 #3

Definitely remember it, and it wasn't just trolls. As we get closer to trading among ourselves, Hoyt Jul 2018 #4

We were proud TPP supporters. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #8

There was a lot of trollery about a lot of things. MineralMan Jul 2018 #5

That site we shall not name siphoned a lot of them off Recursion Jul 2018 #10

Yes. They abandoned ship and fled to safer ground, I guess. MineralMan Jul 2018 #11

I was over there for awhile. Mr.Bill Jul 2018 #26

TPP and Keystone XL were known subjects of Russian active measures Recursion Jul 2018 #6

Yes. Skidmore Jul 2018 #7

A discussion of the merits of pipelines vs. rail transport would have been a good one to have Recursion Jul 2018 #9

I wrote a couple of long posts discussing that here. MineralMan Jul 2018 #12

After a Global Economics course I took, I posted why the TPP would suck for everyone BUT China! TheBlackAdder Jul 2018 #13

100% correct nt elmac Jul 2018 #48

Some on this board were vociferous in their hatred of TPP mcar Jul 2018 #14

To be fair, Bernie Sanders was staunchly opposed to TPP oberliner Jul 2018 #15

Yes, he was mcar Jul 2018 #18

To be fair, Bernie Sanders was wrong. But it was a great cudgel, wasn't it? Hekate Jul 2018 #22

I wish Clinton hadn't backed down on the issue Recursion Jul 2018 #24

Why labor unions oppose the Trans-Pacific Partnership Omaha Steve Jul 2018 #63

LOL the reason for low wages isn't trade.. JHan Jul 2018 #73

Yes! And Donnie Short Fingers, the Retrumplicans and maxrandb Jul 2018 #76

that doesn't make any sense. Either you are for it or you are for Trump and the republicans? JCanete Jul 2018 #81

Hilary came out against TPP Omaha Steve Jul 2018 #82

And to be fair, he and his convention disruptors got EXACTLY what they wanted. LisaM Jul 2018 #25

Yippee Hekate Jul 2018 #58

Oh yes ismnotwasm Jul 2018 #30

That was about the ACA mcar Jul 2018 #31

That's right! ismnotwasm Jul 2018 #52

Oh yeah! mcar Jul 2018 #54

Amen. Never forgive, never forget. Sorry I am a bit bitter today, what with a treasonous potus & all Hekate Jul 2018 #61

I'm right there with you mcar Jul 2018 #70

We still have anti TPP and NAFTA members here. Quite a few. GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #16

so being against one sided, job killing trade deals elmac Jul 2018 #49

I left out the word not( ironic on today of all days! It's fixed) GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #51

Machines are job killers, and it is only going to get worse. Blue_true Jul 2018 #60

I do not share your pessimism GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #62

The issue as of now. Blue_true Jul 2018 #64

TPP was a net job creator for the USA. Blue_true Jul 2018 #56

Agreed GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #57

No, but believing that President Obama maxrandb Jul 2018 #77

They don't know the right way. Blue_true Jul 2018 #55

Like those dirty stinking union members? Omaha Steve Jul 2018 #68

TPP was like any international agreement ... Whiskeytide Jul 2018 #17

Blanketyblank yes I certainly do remember. Not one of DU's prouder moments. nt Hekate Jul 2018 #19

Yes I do. First thing that came to mind when I read the news about Japan and Europe. Nitram Jul 2018 #20

It wasn't all trolls. There are people who don't understand EllieBC Jul 2018 #21

Canada got TPP revised and then joined in. World now trading around USA. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #23

all the trade deals this country signs elmac Jul 2018 #27

Hey, I'm all for trade deals that ship our jobs overseas and destroy the middleclass elmac Jul 2018 #28

Huh??? Skidmore Jul 2018 #32

How you loving the protectionist tariffs, then? bettyellen Jul 2018 #36

oh brother elmac Jul 2018 #43

And we're left out in the cold holding our..............whatever. Remember all the haranguing..... George II Jul 2018 #29

Yup. Skidmore Jul 2018 #33

You DO remember that she came out AGAINST TPP in the primaries? karynnj Jul 2018 #37

Yes she did, she didn't like the last draft (don't think it ever was final).... George II Jul 2018 #65

The changes from 2013 to th final version agreed upon by the international community karynnj Jul 2018 #67

You can't separate Clinton's position from the political climate at the time. JHan Jul 2018 #74

As I said, it was a political decision karynnj Jul 2018 #83

An understandable political decision given the climate... JHan Jul 2018 #84

I get she decided that on dealing with Bernie karynnj Jul 2018 #86

I think she didn't want further antagonism - that was my reading of it.. JHan Jul 2018 #87

My memory is 180 degrees different - The MAJORITY view here was TPP was evil karynnj Jul 2018 #34

Hoyt and I were vocal proponents of TPP on this board. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #35

Exactly. Obama took a lot of misplaced flak on TPP, NAFTA and Trans-Atlantic agreement. Hoyt Jul 2018 #38

Every Democratic president since FDR has advocated free trade. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #40

Exactly karynnj Jul 2018 #41

The campaign against TPP on this board was ferocious. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #44

It was really just a very vocal sector- notably the Manny acolytes who were being very bettyellen Jul 2018 #39

I was a coward and posted only when I had something where Obama, Kerry or others spoke of it karynnj Jul 2018 #42

I knew it was above my pay grade to judge the agreement, but so many others were just spewing from bettyellen Jul 2018 #66

I remember. I even got private mail by someone who wanted to throw me in a woodchipper after Hoyt Jul 2018 #45

so, what I've gathered from reading the posts on this thread elmac Jul 2018 #46

I agree, most on DU were anti-TPP tammywammy Jul 2018 #85

Not naming names, but I took a lot of shit from certain DUers Blue_Tires Jul 2018 #47

we asked for Democratic amendments to a bill which weakened consumer rights bigtree Jul 2018 #50

I am willing to admit when I was wrong. nycbos Jul 2018 #53

That's Class.. all the way! Cha Jul 2018 #59

The emotional appeal of 1950s America will. never. ever. die. Yavin4 Jul 2018 #69

1950s America, where women were fired overnight after VJ Day so men could have their jobs back... Hekate Jul 2018 #71

I see the misinformation about the TPP remains ... JHan Jul 2018 #72

Hillary Clinton was opposed to the TPP former9thward Jul 2018 #75

Nor was Clinton the only "troll" Jim Lane Jul 2018 #78

I lulz'd KG Jul 2018 #79

Just because we didn't like the TPP as it was doesn't mean we were against trade deals. There's a JCanete Jul 2018 #80