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7. It's that your explanation out of hand dismisses the other argument

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 09:52 AM

Jul 2018

You could say Trump is Putin's lackey, his minion, but instead you go for sexual metaphors. You can argue all day long that you don't mean in that sense, but as long as you are still using sexual metaphors, even if you are 100% right about your intentions (and given the pervasiveness of social conditioning, I doubt you are), others will still interpret them in the way those metaphors are traditionally used.

To put it another way, if I went around using the n word, I wouldn't expect my attempts to claim I didn't mean it in a racial way to go over very well.

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No, your Trump-is-gay-for-Putin jokes aren't funny [View all] DonViejo Jul 2018 OP

I make the references to show that trump is submissive to putin not to insinuate weakness associated NightWatcher Jul 2018 #1

Classic "Straightsplaining" - no one asked why u do it, it's still neither funny nor effective... FreepFryer Jul 2018 #2

So this is a discussion board but I cannot discuss? NightWatcher Jul 2018 #4

"Hell, I'll probably even delete this if it offends." brer cat Jul 2018 #6

It's that your explanation out of hand dismisses the other argument mythology Jul 2018 #7

I didn't try to explain away the sexual references. NightWatcher Jul 2018 #10

I dig how you rationalize a distinction lacking a relevant difference LanternWaste Jul 2018 #54

I get that. tavernier Jul 2018 #9

NightWatcher, there are many other ways of doing that. Show Trump as Putin's poodle, his marionette, Nitram Jul 2018 #24

Hi NightWatcher syringis Jul 2018 #32

NightWatcher, I'm gay and I support your POV Ezior Jul 2018 #33

All of these memes are offensive Ms. Toad Jul 2018 #44

By the way, it is sexual "orientation", not preference. Tipperary Jul 2018 #46

If you think being gay is a "preference," cwydro Jul 2018 #50

Then you wouldn't be using any terms that can be easily equated to homosexuality. NCTraveler Jul 2018 #52

If you want to get really offended, try Googling "Trump Putin fanfiction". Crunchy Frog Jul 2018 #3

I tend to say "kissing his ass" Bettie Jul 2018 #5

Cheeto isn't "gay" for Putin, he's subservient FakeNoose Jul 2018 #8

Agree. The Polack MSgt Jul 2018 #11

-1000 aeromanKC Jul 2018 #12

I disagree... Twisty Jul 2018 #13

If you have not had those images and words used as weapons against you Ms. Toad Jul 2018 #45

Language Police Roy Rolling Jul 2018 #14

Making a joke about being gay is NOT insensitive. But casting being gay as a NEGATIVE IS. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #26

Re: Language Police. It is a mistake (or worse) to confuse feedback with policing. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #29

language police? NY_20th Jul 2018 #41

What I object to is the idea that Putin and tRump are in... robbob Jul 2018 #15

Yes, Putin would be contemptuous of tRump, but Putin is an actor when he needs to be. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #18

That's why I use the hashtag ecstatic Jul 2018 #35

Only in the sense that a bitch can be a female dog. robbob Jul 2018 #36

Best analogy I've seen to date about 45 onecaliberal Jul 2018 #53

If Hillary were treating Putin like tRump, RW would have same imagery. It's not LGBTQ-centric. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #16

Thank you! snowybirdie Jul 2018 #17

What I think; and what matters. dawg Jul 2018 #19

Agree, to a certain extent... Adrahil Jul 2018 #25

I agree. And enough with the fat jokes too, please. NT Adrahil Jul 2018 #20

K and R Ferrets are Cool Jul 2018 #21

I agree, Viejo. I suppose it's funny in a middle school boy's locker room way, and I know it is Nitram Jul 2018 #22

I think "bromance" is fine. It points out a similarity in their relationship... Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #23

See my post (above) robbob Jul 2018 #28

Even though I don't care to use childish homoerotic references JohnnyRingo Jul 2018 #27

And while we're busy sorting out critical, pressing issues like this BannonsLiver Jul 2018 #39

Internet outrage has become epidemic. JohnnyRingo Jul 2018 #42

best summation of social media to date. Inkfreak Jul 2018 #56

Is decorating the Wall Street bull with rainbow dildos and Putin riding it... moriah Jul 2018 #30

I hear this a lot on the Stephanie Miller show. Basic LA Jul 2018 #31

Friends who are gay ... LenaBaby61 Jul 2018 #55

GTK. Thanks. Basic LA Jul 2018 #57

K&R homophobia is always harmful regardless of intent n/t FreeState Jul 2018 #34

I hope you never how my gay friends talk about this stuff! GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #37

FINALLY! Behind the Aegis Jul 2018 #38

There is at least one of those in this very thread. Tipperary Jul 2018 #49

K&R Solly Mack Jul 2018 #40

Thank you for posting this. Ms. Toad Jul 2018 #43

Yet we see them here all the time. Tipperary Jul 2018 #47

Also assumes the relationship is consensual... Orsino Jul 2018 #48

Politically correct Trump-Putin jokes? Sneederbunk Jul 2018 #51