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LuckyCharms

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75. I don't think the post is idiotic.

Sun Jul 22, 2018, 01:50 PM

Jul 2018

If I had posted "Do you think people should be better educated about the workings of Government" I would have received about 7 replies and the post would have dropped. Listen, I've lost friends and family permanently over politics since the GW Bush days. Permanently. I have a big mouth and I blast Trump supporters in public putting myself at risk. I waste my breath trying to educate Trump supporters. I have a headache every night when I go to bed over the bullshit that is taking place in this country. Those family member I've lost? I miss them...but how am I to reconcile the fact that they are racist hateful fucks?

Here are my beliefs:

1) GOTV bumper stickers and sayings are not enough. People cannot be compelled to vote. People will vote when their minds are challenged and/or they are educated by whatever means possible as to what they are voting for.

2) I am in favor of every adult voting, and I would desire that in a perfect world.

3) I am in favor of heavy civics educational requirements in high school.

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no. eShirl Jul 2018 #1

It sure sounds like a poll tax, exp. in Red States, where they don't want civics-minded people. TheBlackAdder Jul 2018 #59

It kinda does. And what about red or blue state non-readers who otherwise qualify as voters? ancianita Jul 2018 #100

Should be required in High School in order to graduate katmondoo Jul 2018 #2

Agreed. n/t LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #21

I second that. fierywoman Jul 2018 #71

I second your second. Glamrock Jul 2018 #130

And I'm right behind you pandr32 Jul 2018 #134

It is in Maryland.............. mrmpa Jul 2018 #78

+ struggle4progress Jul 2018 #80

One person one vote, unimpeded. beachbum bob Jul 2018 #3

Per what source please? LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #4

source of what THAT WAS THE US POLICY FOR setting up democracies beachbum bob Jul 2018 #104

No. n/t demmiblue Jul 2018 #5

That amounts to a literacy test like that forced upon Black people in the south. madaboutharry Jul 2018 #6

No it wouldn't. LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #9

Yes it would. madaboutharry Jul 2018 #13

Theoretically, accommodations could be made for people with disabilities LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #16

Oh FFS.. Repigs are getting their jollies making people get driver's licenses and state ids to vote. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2018 #65

No...I'm not sure where you got that. n/t LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #68

That is exactly what the GOP is doing.Where there is a "state ID" option at the DMV, GOP closes... Hekate Jul 2018 #90

I don't think any municipality can be totally prepared for all disabilities nor should it be a ... SWBTATTReg Jul 2018 #107

yes it would. even if it's not your intent that's how it would be used JI7 Jul 2018 #20

YES, it would EffieBlack Jul 2018 #112

it is a literacy test Lithos Jul 2018 #133

Points for the use of "bugfuck" but no. peekaloo Jul 2018 #7

why? qazplm135 Jul 2018 #8

I'm not proposing it at all. LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #10

When someone asks what people think and then disagrees with their answers dixiegrrrrl Jul 2018 #106

you are proposing an action qazplm135 Jul 2018 #128

No. Plus who designs the tests? NightWatcher Jul 2018 #11

I don't know who designs the tests. LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #12

I know, your intentions are good, but when bad people start making the tests... NightWatcher Jul 2018 #82

I'm sure Attorney General Sessions would be more than happy to justhanginon Jul 2018 #93

it would be targeted unfairly towards certain minority groups JI7 Jul 2018 #14

Strengthen public schools instead. Qutzupalotl Jul 2018 #15

This is the answer I'm looking for. LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #19

I'm not sure civics is taught anymore. At least not everywhere. CrispyQ Jul 2018 #67

Bad idea. dawg Jul 2018 #17

Well then, I'll try diplomacy - your words... asiliveandbreathe Jul 2018 #18

Bad idea. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2018 #22

We have always been against basically ANY qualifiers to vote. MadDAsHell Jul 2018 #23

Racist? LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #27

Absolutely not... cynatnite Jul 2018 #24

So what you are saying is... LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #37

For one...it's outright voter suppression... cynatnite Jul 2018 #47

I think there should be a 10 question test everyone should take to vote and must pass at least 70% kimbutgar Jul 2018 #25

Your first paragraph is what made me generate the OP. n/t LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #30

What do you think of requiring passing a basic parenting exam to be able to have a child? Brother Buzz Jul 2018 #26

I would not be in favor of that. n/t LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #29

So a child's life is less important than one vote? nt USALiberal Jul 2018 #33

I don't think I said that. n/t LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #42

You didn't say anything. nt USALiberal Jul 2018 #46

+1. Hi Buzz! rzemanfl Jul 2018 #48

No. Downtown Hound Jul 2018 #28

NO. Make voting registration automatic AND require non-penalizing civics tests, right there in ecstatic Jul 2018 #31

I think you should have to pass on before registering as a candidate for any gov. office Siwsan Jul 2018 #32

Smacks too much of Jim Crow requirements designed to exclude nonwhites.Make it a required subject... Hekate Jul 2018 #34

In the 50s, Skidmore Jul 2018 #35

+1 LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #45

You stole my post. llmart Jul 2018 #121

Required to graduate HS and a more detailed test for all running for state or Federal public office hlthe2b Jul 2018 #36

HELL no underpants Jul 2018 #38

Absolutely not. dameatball Jul 2018 #39

nah luvallpeeps Jul 2018 #40

It's voter suppression, folks! cynatnite Jul 2018 #41

r u kidding, another voter suppression tactic AlexSFCA Jul 2018 #43

Our lawmakers should before running for office but GemDigger Jul 2018 #44

hell no ! stonecutter357 Jul 2018 #49

Just for the record, I don't think it is a good idea. LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #50

Either you were trolling cynatnite Jul 2018 #58

So I'm a troll? LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #63

Maybe not... cynatnite Jul 2018 #72

I don't think the post is idiotic. LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #75

And none of that was in your post at all... cynatnite Jul 2018 #84

Racism is not politics. It is racism. LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #95

more and better public schools handmade34 Jul 2018 #69

+1 n/t LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #70

While I get where you're coming from, I disagree w/one for voters. OTOH... WePurrsevere Jul 2018 #51

Wouldn't work either, but I gotta say I love the idea anyway. TreasonousBastard Jul 2018 #111

How about this instead: milestogo Jul 2018 #52

Good. See post 50. n/t LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #54

The kind of people who would voluntarily go to those classes aren't the problem. hughee99 Jul 2018 #116

no no no - this would be susceptible to being hacked and certain demographics being targeted DrDan Jul 2018 #53

This post is meant as parody/satire, right? oberliner Jul 2018 #55

I do think that Civics should be taught in schools again, and not how Jesus lived with dinosaurs. dameatball Jul 2018 #56

NO! mia Jul 2018 #57

Also for the record on my opinion... LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #60

No. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2018 #61

No. I would be in favor of everybody having to pass the U.S citizenship test in order octoberlib Jul 2018 #62

No, but I do think it should be a requirement to run for public office. GoCubsGo Jul 2018 #64

+1 LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #66

+10000000000000000000000000000000000000 Faux pas Jul 2018 #73

Re: thinking it would have prevented twitler from becoming preznit shanny Jul 2018 #81

I think it's a horrible idea. mythology Jul 2018 #74

No. But I wouldn't have a problem with requiring it to pass seventh grade, as we used to. Squinch Jul 2018 #76

Nope. Been used before to suppress certain voters. Even deplorables derserve to vote, Hoyt Jul 2018 #77

No LiberalBrooke Jul 2018 #79

I actually think an UPPER age limit would be better. dawg day Jul 2018 #83

Sounds like something that someone interested in voter suppression would suggest. Ms. Toad Jul 2018 #85

Great example. It definitely cuts out all non-readers who are otherwise deserving of a voice. ancianita Jul 2018 #102

holy effing shit is this for REAL??????????????????? Takket Jul 2018 #123

Yes, it is for real. Ms. Toad Jul 2018 #125

I'm 40. Takket Jul 2018 #127

No. Voting serves purposes other than getting the " right" results Cicada Jul 2018 #86

Are you kidding!!!! snowybirdie Jul 2018 #87

No, but should be required to run for President Capperdan Jul 2018 #88

No. never again Progressive dog Jul 2018 #89

Republicans will never go for it. Turbineguy Jul 2018 #91

Your thought is on the rightwing wish list. juxtaposed Jul 2018 #92

It sounds like another chance for the GOP to disenfranchise voters. Flaleftist Jul 2018 #94

Nope Lunabell Jul 2018 #96

How about making this a requirement to run... 3catwoman3 Jul 2018 #97

I would oppose a "test" , but not sure it would hurt us more than them MichMan Jul 2018 #98

It should not be required to vote. However Golden Raisin Jul 2018 #99

No Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2018 #101

No riverbendviewgal Jul 2018 #103

No, but it should be required for a high school degree. greymattermom Jul 2018 #105

I agree -- factual civics CozyMystery Jul 2018 #108

I hear ya, but no. It's a republican twofer of voter surpression and rule by a select few. Afromania Jul 2018 #109

It's a wonderful idea. It would keep the lines at the polls from moving so damn fast. JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2018 #110

Just as IQ tests don't accurately measure intelligence, "civics exams" can't EffieBlack Jul 2018 #113

Sounds like Jim Crow samir.g Jul 2018 #114

no. The much better option is to make voting a protected right and a requirement. Make voter purges JCanete Jul 2018 #115

No thank you. Ilsa Jul 2018 #117

Absolutely not. nolabear Jul 2018 #118

"Are you a Republican?" would be my first question. yallerdawg Jul 2018 #119

Hey, Lucky Niagara Jul 2018 #120

something i've wanted similar............... Takket Jul 2018 #126

I can already imagine the scene unfolding on Presidential Jeopardy Niagara Jul 2018 #129

Is this for real? Read a history book. Literacy test. Poll tax. McCamy Taylor Jul 2018 #122

This is a very ignorant and stupid population Meowmee Jul 2018 #124

To vote, NO Bettie Jul 2018 #131

No, but I sure think Presidential candidates should be able RandomAccess Jul 2018 #132

No. How would that help? It would certainly be abused. Heidi Jul 2018 #135

Below is a copy of my original post. LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #136