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emulatorloo

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149. Same here. Always have always will. And enthusiastically do GOTV in the general n/t

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Mon Jul 23, 2018, 06:45 PM

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'Third Way,' 'corporate,' 'DLC,' Oh, my! [View all] MineralMan Jul 2018 OP

Kick. I propose we ignore those "returning" posters, not Squinch Jul 2018 #1

This! peggysue2 Jul 2018 #7

Its the same old problem. Trying to herd Democrats is like herding cats. Its the nature of the beast olegramps Jul 2018 #36

I don't believe they're Democrats, though. Squinch Jul 2018 #38

Which ones are divisive? The ones supporting moderate, win at all costs? Or the ones, 3Hotdogs Jul 2018 #51

And what exactly will these candidates do if elected? dansolo Jul 2018 #66

I don't think most progressives are that perfectionist. DemocracyMouse Jul 2018 #87

Once Again, They Are Popping Up Again. TomCADem Dec 2018 #177

We're stuck with them for now manor321 Jul 2018 #2

Primaries are not for dishonest smears that depress turnout kcr Jul 2018 #15

You know - Tom Malinowski NJ - 7th Candidate JustAnotherGen Jul 2018 #3

not just a river in Egypt shanny Jul 2018 #4

You just gave me some flashbacks about former DUers.... Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2018 #5

I will practice some more. I'm the funniest guy I know. 3Hotdogs Jul 2018 #53

I, for one True Dough Jul 2018 #109

Thanx 3Hotdogs Jul 2018 #124

You are correct Mineral Man. THEY ARE BACAAAACK and none the wiser IMO. Trust Buster Jul 2018 #6

Some Democrats (describe them as you wish) are meeting together to foment fear in the face of ProfessorPlum Jul 2018 #8

Why don't I ever have a candlestick in the library when I need it? Squinch Jul 2018 #11

You posted this: murielm99 Jul 2018 #17

read the article bigtree Jul 2018 #30

I see the silent majority every day. I live two blocks from a cemetery. 3Hotdogs Jul 2018 #55

That reminded me to tell you, "Welcome to DU",... IthinkThereforeIAM Jul 2018 #86

I stand by what I said. murielm99 Jul 2018 #56

Boom! Squinch Jul 2018 #58

I love the way you feel secure here telling people who disagree with your politics bigtree Jul 2018 #60

Incumbent Democrats are being primaried murielm99 Jul 2018 #64

best get busy drawing in these challengers' supporters bigtree Jul 2018 #72

I so far more than "scold," as you term it. murielm99 Jul 2018 #75

I told Mineral Man the same thing bigtree Jul 2018 #89

Odd the definitions of divisive here mcar Jul 2018 #106

I'm not going to respond to your biased characterizations of what I wrote bigtree Jul 2018 #110

Are you serious? mcar Jul 2018 #113

apply that to whoever says it bigtree Jul 2018 #118

On this we agree... mcar Jul 2018 #126

lots of invective in there bigtree Jul 2018 #139

Invective? mcar Jul 2018 #170

Your post is dead on, mcar.. I'm sure you're not anyway.. Cha Jul 2018 #164

Just got back from a candidate forum to see that one mcar Jul 2018 #171

See, you're actually doing the work. Most of those doing all the writing MineralMan Jul 2018 #92

Yeah, look who was talking about "scolding and demeaning".. Cha Jul 2018 #156

all I ever have? really cha? bigtree Jul 2018 #172

Once again bigtree, you nailed it! It never fuckin' ends... but thanks for calling it out! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2018 #68

Don't you love these divisive attacks disguised as a call to unity? PurgedVoter Jul 2018 #93

+1 and thank you! mountain grammy Jul 2018 #155

Stop it! Everybody! DemocracyMouse Jul 2018 #91

Brava! mcar Jul 2018 #100

And... boom! NurseJackie Jul 2018 #115

Amen, Muriel99 Hekate Jul 2018 #141

Tired old terms Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #9

please notify Third Way (which is a real organization) ProfessorPlum Jul 2018 #13

They were influential 20 years ago. Why not just call us Whigs and Tories? Squinch Jul 2018 #73

Yup, the Clintons made it famous (and the DLC)... but now it's like Krypnonite to some around here InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2018 #74

Yes and on FOX they still complain about Acorn Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #163

It takes different candidates to win in different districts. MineralMan Jul 2018 #16

Very true MM...at the same time, there's something to be said for tryin to change hearts and minds. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2018 #77

Of course. We're always doing that. MineralMan Jul 2018 #81

Yeah it depends on the district and the state. Willie Pep Jul 2018 #148

That's the way it should be Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #160

Never undertood infinite_wisdom Jul 2018 #84

Depends on the district Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #161

I saw one recently call a one term house member an "entrenched establishment candidate." NCTraveler Jul 2018 #10

Transparent as a broken out window. MineralMan Jul 2018 #12

We can vote for the dem candidate in the GE. We can be civil about our disagreements. Highlighting JCanete Jul 2018 #14

Guess what? All three branches of federal government are now in MineralMan Jul 2018 #18

Prove with any evidence, your claim that challenges in the primary from the left depress turnout. We JCanete Jul 2018 #21

If you think having a primary results in the Republicans winning, then why don't you just say that. rgbecker Jul 2018 #28

Just wait until all the primaries are over. MineralMan Jul 2018 #29

Bookmarked. n/t theaocp Jul 2018 #43

Well, there is one young woman who won her primary Bettie Jul 2018 #80

She's not being trashed by me. She will be the candidate in her MineralMan Jul 2018 #83

Oh, you mean the one who is now attending rallies all over the country when she has yet to win... Hekate Jul 2018 #146

The entire purpose is depressing turnout mcar Jul 2018 #19

When they do it, call them out on it. MineralMan Jul 2018 #20

bullshit lacking evidence that it does depress turnout, but you don't seem to give a shit about JCanete Jul 2018 #26

Testy, are we? MineralMan Jul 2018 #31

why are you spreading unverifiable claims here on DU? Yes, that bothers me. Call me crazy. nt JCanete Jul 2018 #32

I'm not going to call you anything. MineralMan Jul 2018 #34

why dodge the question? nt JCanete Jul 2018 #35

You're free to ask any question you wish. MineralMan Jul 2018 #40

thats your goal? Well shit, that clears it all up. It isn't about presenting an honest position you JCanete Jul 2018 #42

.. MineralMan Jul 2018 #47

That's fair. nt JCanete Jul 2018 #49

So you too dispute that the GOP used some "progressives" to depress Dem turnout? bettyellen Jul 2018 #39

i dispute that that is the goal of progressives, and that that has had a measurable effect taht you JCanete Jul 2018 #44

Well okay, you don't believe our intelligence community any more than Trump does... bettyellen Jul 2018 #54

What? How did you get that from what I said. I said primaries don't depress the vote, and that JCanete Jul 2018 #76

You know we're talking about progressives smearing Dems during and after the primaries? Let's not bettyellen Jul 2018 #111

We are talking about democrats in primaries using language about "corporate" dems etc. If you want JCanete Jul 2018 #128

And calling Emily's list establishment, and using broad based attacks in Dems to be weaponized... bettyellen Jul 2018 #136

So WHO was smearing Dems during and after the primaries? progressoid Jul 2018 #138

It's difficult to believe these people targeting HRC did not suppress the vote- the both sides BS bettyellen Jul 2018 #143

How about constant trolling by some (not you) in which Democrats are derided as "third way" Squinch Jul 2018 #61

I think it, like a lot of things here, like this thread, sucks up our energy, that could be spent JCanete Jul 2018 #78

Deliberate party spoiling is an important topic that is worth "wasting energy" on. kcr Jul 2018 #85

If it it were making a case that this is what it does, I think it would have merit. Because there JCanete Jul 2018 #88

We do have the word of our intelligence agencies that it happened. I see no reason to Squinch Jul 2018 #116

No, we have the word of our intelligence agencies that Russia has attempted to use these JCanete Jul 2018 #117

See my previous post about how each of us does affect the people around us. Squinch Jul 2018 #119

That is not a case for deliberate party spoiling from within. nt JCanete Jul 2018 #120

The intelligence agency reports are the case for that. The effect it has on each of us is the case Squinch Jul 2018 #122

Wait what are you refering to in agency reports? That there are dems who were trying to throw the JCanete Jul 2018 #130

Forget it, JCanete. This is the kind of nonsense we don't have time for. Squinch Jul 2018 #132

But its your claim. I'm not the one taking us there. We can agree to drop it though. nt JCanete Jul 2018 #134

In the wider world, it might not have taken many votes at all to have changed the outcome of the Squinch Jul 2018 #90

I mostly agree with you, except that disctinctons have to be drawn in the primary, and I'm sorry, JCanete Jul 2018 #98

In any other year I would agree with you. But this year there is no goal that can supercede Squinch Jul 2018 #102

Oh so do I, but I just see that end forestalled by a few years if we don't drastically JCanete Jul 2018 #140

I've been here since 2002 mcar Jul 2018 #108

Socialist! bigtree Jul 2018 #22

Good question... InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2018 #82

K&R ismnotwasm Jul 2018 #23

Great post and hope that, for the sake of America, everyone heeds your advice. riversedge Jul 2018 #24

Apparently, not everyone thinks it's a great post. MineralMan Jul 2018 #25

...yeah, weird that. JCanete Jul 2018 #27

But most do. The few who don't are loud, but not numerous. And they do seem to be swarming you Squinch Jul 2018 #46

I have my full bug-netting suit on. MineralMan Jul 2018 #50

They're no match for you! Squinch Jul 2018 #52

Agreed - it all comes down to this! FakeNoose Jul 2018 #33

Exactly. If Democrats win enough elections, we'll get back some control MineralMan Jul 2018 #37

+1000 nt DesertRat Jul 2018 #144

I'll bet MIRT will be very busy between now and November EllieBC Jul 2018 #41

MIRT only deals with people who have recently signed up on DU. MineralMan Jul 2018 #45

In the end, its not up to us to motivate voters elmac Jul 2018 #48

You're wrong. It IS up to all of us to encourage people MineralMan Jul 2018 #57

That is simply not true mcar Jul 2018 #112

No question... keep up the good work!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2018 #157

Most of us disagree- we must GOTV if we live our values. bettyellen Jul 2018 #145

All politics is local. Always has been. haele Jul 2018 #59

Exactly. People are most effective in supporting candidates MineralMan Jul 2018 #62

I think people lose track of how local conditions decide who wins elections. Willie Pep Jul 2018 #150

K&R ! stonecutter357 Jul 2018 #63

Thanks! MineralMan Jul 2018 #65

The funniest of all is the resurrection of "DLC", which ceased to exist about 8 years ago! George II Jul 2018 #67

Yes. Whenever I have pointed that out, I get the MineralMan Jul 2018 #70

They're really pissed at the Whigs, too, I hear. Bastards were all corporatists, doncha know. Squinch Jul 2018 #176

Thank you, MineralMan! SunSeeker Jul 2018 #69

You're more than welcome! MineralMan Jul 2018 #71

I vote the most left candidate in the primaries gollygee Jul 2018 #79

Of course. That's how it works. MineralMan Jul 2018 #96

Same here. Always have always will. And enthusiastically do GOTV in the general n/t emulatorloo Jul 2018 #149

Thank you. (nt) ehrnst Jul 2018 #94

My pleasure! MineralMan Jul 2018 #95

It's OK to have primaries. It's OK to change representation. Gore1FL Jul 2018 #97

Of course. Primaries are almost over now, though. MineralMan Jul 2018 #99

The Party changed under Obama BeyondGeography Jul 2018 #101

Just as always. MineralMan Jul 2018 #103

There have been daily negative posts on Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez . CentralMass Jul 2018 #104

Not by me. She won her primary. Now, I hope she wins in November. MineralMan Jul 2018 #105

+1 CentralMass Jul 2018 #107

+1 emulatorloo Jul 2018 #151

Don't forget "Wall Street". NurseJackie Jul 2018 #114

"Elite"! Remember when BS called us the "liberal elite"? Right after trump got Rigged in.. Cha Jul 2018 #173

Yup, one returnee is openly threatening third party R B Garr Jul 2018 #121

I missed that one, I guess. MineralMan Jul 2018 #127

I would love to reclaim LIBERAL nvme Jul 2018 #123

They weren't listened to before zentrum Jul 2018 #125

So, who is your House representative? MineralMan Jul 2018 #129

Don't feel like announcing zentrum Jul 2018 #147

Amusingly, a newbie's very first post today was to warn of of the dreaded DCCC Hekate Jul 2018 #131

Manny? Manny Who? MineralMan Jul 2018 #135

Manny are called, but few are chosen Hekate Jul 2018 #142

These Buster types had no problem electing coprporate Republicans in 2016 Adenoid_Hynkel Jul 2018 #133

Like jill Fucking stein and Fucking susan sarandon. Cha Jul 2018 #165

The progressive movement wants money out of politics. AtomicKitten Jul 2018 #137

Spoken better than I could. theaocp Jul 2018 #152

. AtomicKitten Jul 2018 #169

Our Revolution is a 501c4, so they aren't required to disclose their big donors. emulatorloo Jul 2018 #153

But, isn't that "our revolution's" so-called Big Thing.. "money out Cha Jul 2018 #159

The defining specific is not taking corporate PAC money. AtomicKitten Jul 2018 #167

+1,000,000... dead on as usual AK!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2018 #158

hey AtomicKitten Jul 2018 #168

The people who want to blow up the system are back Fresh_Start Jul 2018 #154

Yes, and it is really making me angry Hekate Jul 2018 #174

AGREE. n/t CousinIT Jul 2018 #162

The useful idiots are back. NT Adrahil Jul 2018 #166

Ha-Now that is unexpected Progressive dog Jul 2018 #175