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Major Nikon

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69. The jet I fly was certified back in the 90's so probably the same deal

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #68)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:17 PM

Jul 2018

It’s pretty simple most of the time as you just look the numbers up in the book. It only gets tricky when you are operating near limits, or when you find out at the last minute the boss wants to bring two more couples with bags after you have loaded fuel. The worst of it is managing the catering and the dozens of other details the airline guys don’t have to deal with. Flying is the easy part.

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Airlines canceling flights because the air is too hot [View all] dixiegrrrrl Jul 2018 OP

republican lies about climate change are dangerous Achilleaze Jul 2018 #1

I call BS... Why is Emirates regularly able to operate JCMach1 Jul 2018 #2

Maybe the planes are designed for more lift to operate there? Moostache Jul 2018 #4

Good guess on lift. Depends on type of plane and length of runway underpants Jul 2018 #8

Long runways. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #52

Or here in Sacramento shanti Jul 2018 #5

Good question. I'm gathering that it depends on the plane and length of runway underpants Jul 2018 #9

Emirates operates out of Dubai VMA131Marine Jul 2018 #14

Dubai's long runway is 14,000 feet. A HERETIC I AM Jul 2018 #15

That helps too! VMA131Marine Jul 2018 #19

Yup A HERETIC I AM Jul 2018 #23

Dubai is at sea level any higher in the temperature go higher there's less air density uponit7771 Jul 2018 #39

Altitude denbot Jul 2018 #41

The planes are capable fescuerescue Jul 2018 #42

Because temperature is one variable out of many Major Nikon Jul 2018 #50

It is called Timewas Jul 2018 #77

how does hot weather affect it ? JI7 Jul 2018 #3

I looked it up - air density underpants Jul 2018 #6

Heat and airport altitude affect the air which in turn impedes the wing's ability to lift. Stinky The Clown Jul 2018 #7

It also affects the engines ability to make power Major Nikon Jul 2018 #51

air density lapfog_1 Jul 2018 #11

Nope, turns out it was technically never too hot to fly out of Phoenix oberliner Jul 2018 #10

Yep, BS company excuse... JCMach1 Jul 2018 #20

Doesn't prove the story in the OP is untrue ... read the rest of the posts on this thread from mr_lebowski Jul 2018 #21

Our American agencies got the math wrong JCMach1 Jul 2018 #24

The story in the OP is not about flights in Phoenix. mr_lebowski Jul 2018 #25

Well, even if we look at old FAA guidance, how many cities in CONUS JCMach1 Jul 2018 #29

Temperature is relative to altitude Major Nikon Jul 2018 #70

They didn't get the numbers wrong. The company engineers updated their operating limits. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2018 #33

Not necessarily Major Nikon Jul 2018 #66

Not meant to - just thought it was interesting info oberliner Jul 2018 #26

Yes. It was, in fact, technically too hot to fly - based on the manufacturers charts. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2018 #34

Thanks for adding that oberliner Jul 2018 #40

Yes. A pretty considerable margin is built into the numbers. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #59

interesting Demovictory9 Jul 2018 #75

Technicallies are a big deal in commercial aviation Major Nikon Jul 2018 #54

The FAA takes "technicalities" very seriously. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #55

Part 91 and 135 get a bit looser Major Nikon Jul 2018 #58

Having a dispatch department with computers and ops specs written in stone The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #61

Less people involved in corporate aviation Major Nikon Jul 2018 #63

It's better now than it used to be but there is a lot less oversight. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #65

You have to do all of it yourself Major Nikon Jul 2018 #67

This was early 2000s, pre-iPad. Poor slob was probably doing it The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #68

The jet I fly was certified back in the 90's so probably the same deal Major Nikon Jul 2018 #69

Sounds like bs. Flights out of south Florida every damn hour. And it is HOT here. Tipperary Jul 2018 #12

Florida is at sea level, basically VMA131Marine Jul 2018 #22

Thankfully, alternative facts are irrelevant to science. LanternWaste Jul 2018 #31

Altitude matters to. fescuerescue Jul 2018 #43

Not BS at all. It will depend on FAA regs, airline ops specs, The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #56

Retired airline pilot here. trof Jul 2018 #13

I fucking hate you. A HERETIC I AM Jul 2018 #16

It was good. trof Jul 2018 #17

I'll bet. A HERETIC I AM Jul 2018 #27

I was lucky enough to be there during some of the golden years. trof Jul 2018 #28

A family friend used to fly for National. A HERETIC I AM Jul 2018 #30

Oh yeah. trof Jul 2018 #32

"This is your Captain speaking"...... A HERETIC I AM Jul 2018 #36

I wouldn't advise a young person to be a commercial pilot today. trof Jul 2018 #48

It's getting better Major Nikon Jul 2018 #71

Part 91 gets interesting during high, hot, and heavy Major Nikon Jul 2018 #57

I remember taking off from Santa Fe (6,350') in a C-182, The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #62

I was at Leadville two weeks ago in my 182. Major Nikon Jul 2018 #64

But AF 1 is flying all over the place n/t malaise Jul 2018 #18

I believe AF1 has some souped up engines with classified performance capabilities. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2018 #35

AF1 is also extremely light for a 747 jmowreader Jul 2018 #37

I wondered about that. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2018 #38

But there is the added weight of Trump's ego. n/t dixiegrrrrl Jul 2018 #44

LOL! The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #53

On the flipside of that... jmowreader Jul 2018 #74

True trof Jul 2018 #49

Math! MyNameGoesHere Jul 2018 #45

At least climate change is a hoax! budkin Jul 2018 #46

A Chinese hoax at that! n/t Yavin4 Jul 2018 #47

It's a mollecular spacing capacity issue A-Schwarzenegger Jul 2018 #60

or to spell, either milestogo Jul 2018 #72

Hee heee dixiegrrrrl Jul 2018 #78

Exxactly. A-Schwarzenegger Jul 2018 #73

I worked at DCA (Washington National Airport) in the 1970's. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2018 #76

How much difference does humidity make? dixiegrrrrl Jul 2018 #79

I honestly can't recall how much difference the humidity made. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2018 #80