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Hortensis

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57. Lots of info in this article, but I question the author's motive.

Sat Jul 28, 2018, 01:01 PM

Jul 2018

The theme she's pushing is something she cannot possibly know, but she's pushing it anyway:

Whether Devine's embedding in the Sanders campaign involved collusion by him or anyone else with Russia or whether it was just plain old venal corruption. Her take is that Devine, a mid-level political operative who needed a job, just lucked into an astonishingly well paying one and swampy one with the Sanders campaign.

As to where the $10M actually came from, by now Mueller must know. This could be a total non-issue or something that will blow up big.

We do know the Sanders campaign was used by the Republicans and Russia as a tool to deliver America into the control of a Putin-influenced Republican white nationalist government. It's right to investigate and, of course, also right to wait for the results.

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Devines email to someone who has been convicted of conspiring against the US [View all] NCTraveler Jul 2018 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #1

I never said he was convicted of anything. NCTraveler Jul 2018 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #6

Yes. That is my thread title. NCTraveler Jul 2018 #7

GAAH! My bad. That's what I get for reading too fast. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #8

Tad Devine's email was to Rick Gates, not to Paul Manafort csziggy Jul 2018 #9

Okay,the responses are going to be Wellstone ruled Jul 2018 #2

$10,000 per day. How could Bernie afford that rate?...nt SidDithers Jul 2018 #3

Let's see.... NCTraveler Jul 2018 #5

One Wonders Me. Jul 2018 #24

Lots of info in this article, but I question the author's motive. Hortensis Jul 2018 #57

Many, Many Questions Me. Jul 2018 #59

Yes. I don't find the theme of lucked into particularly Hortensis Jul 2018 #62

Totally Agree Me. Jul 2018 #63

Excellent question. Cha Jul 2018 #25

Adds up fast. NCTraveler Jul 2018 #28

How was that email made public? oberliner Jul 2018 #10

Uretsky. NCTraveler Jul 2018 #12

What does that mean? oberliner Jul 2018 #20

Uretsky was the Sanders staffer who was fired for the DNC data breach in 2015. George II Jul 2018 #30

Thanks for the info oberliner Jul 2018 #32

So, Devine could be a Russian operative Do we think Sanders knew? Could their have bee a mole in HRC juxtaposed Jul 2018 #11

Devine is voluntarily cooperating with the prosecution as a witness in Manafort's trial The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #14

I don't think Sanders knew a thing. NCTraveler Jul 2018 #15

I find this all interesting and intriguing at the same time. juxtaposed Jul 2018 #18

Doing a bit more reading and I'm going to back off of my position above. NCTraveler Jul 2018 #21

Devine signed on in November 2014, but he worked on Sanders' campaigns since the 1990s. George II Jul 2018 #34

I feel HRC, and Sanders had no clue at the time. juxtaposed Jul 2018 #19

I highly doubt Sanders knew. Why would he think that someone who had worked for blm Jul 2018 #26

That doesn't put him in a very good light. Squinch Jul 2018 #53

Apparently Devine was also responsible for coming up with "lock her up" Maven Jul 2018 #13

Was he also responsible for using it against Hillary? The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #16

His defense of his supporters at the Nevada Convention spoke volumes kcr Jul 2018 #22

Manafort was also involved with that one. NCTraveler Jul 2018 #23

Why was he working for Putin to install a puppet in Ukraine? yardwork Jul 2018 #43

And obviously it hasn't been ignored, since he's being called as a witness in Manafort's trial. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #44

Lots of assurances there. Blah blah blah. yardwork Jul 2018 #47

"In 2010, when the future Sanders adviser....." George II Jul 2018 #50

Didn't know about Sanders 2012 vote, something's f***** up really f***** up here uponit7771 Jul 2018 #17

The other Senators who voted against the Magnitsky Act: The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #36

Michigan and Rhode Island. yardwork Jul 2018 #39

Are you suggesting these liberal Democratic senators are somehow involved in Russian dirty deals The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #41

We ignore plain facts at our peril. At this point, I trust nobody. yardwork Jul 2018 #42

Not at all. But I'd like to see some actual evidence rather than assume guilt by association. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #45

Mueller is gathering evidence and now people are being charged and convicted. yardwork Jul 2018 #46

Yes, they are. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #49

None of those three voted against the Russia sanctions last year. George II Jul 2018 #48

The misleading statements almost seem... coordinated. yardwork Jul 2018 #51

Thankfully Mueller and his staff have all the dots, now it's just a matter... George II Jul 2018 #55

And here's why: The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #52

Yes, we know. It's always something. I suppose 98 other Senators - Democrats, republican.... George II Jul 2018 #54

President Obama,Secretary Clinton and John Kerry also opposed it. Power 2 the People Jul 2018 #58

Then I guess they must be Russian assets, too. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #60

Scary stuff. All of these people on our side who have connections to Manafort and Russia Power 2 the People Jul 2018 #27

I think the payday is bigger and easier for them in many places. NCTraveler Jul 2018 #29

I could never sell my soul like that Power 2 the People Jul 2018 #31

Guilt by association? The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #35

Yep Power 2 the People Jul 2018 #37

Bernie Sanders, Useful Idiot PubliusEnigma Jul 2018 #33

The "lock her up" chant was used against a female candidate in the Ukraine. yardwork Jul 2018 #38

The day when people admit what actually happened in 2016 is still far off markses66 Jul 2018 #40

I've given up on trying to like Sanders. we can do it Jul 2018 #56

I always thought that it was bizzarre how Manafort just showed up out of the blue and got Blue_true Jul 2018 #61