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In reply to the discussion: But Bernie is Not a Democrat... [View all]NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)365. Bernie is basically saying "there's no difference between the parties" and that's WRONG!!
That catering to the 1% is BS, again so obvious as to why this is happening.
Bernie is basically saying "there's no difference between the parties" and that's WRONG!!
We don't accept those kinds of attacks and smears from Ann Coulter or Dick Cheney, right? Loyal Democrats would fight back if the same disgusting lie was uttered by Ted Cruz or Donald Trump, right?
So why is it that when Bernie Sanders attacks the Democratic party with that lie, so many of his supporters rush to defend him? Why is it okay for Bernie to tell disgusting lies about the Democratic party, but people would have-a-cow if Ann Coulter said it?
He has always said he is NOT a Democrat.
Along with his lies about how "corrupt" and "feeble" and "ideologically bankrupt" the Democratic party is, the fact that he also refuses to declare loyalty to the party is NOT a very good argument for getting others to support Democrats.
There are many who boast about being an "Independent" or "non-affiliated" voter (I think they want others to believe they're smarter, too) yet, when it comes time to select the party's nominee, these NON-DEMOCRATS will scream bloody murder because they aren't allowed to participate in PARTY business.
They don't want to be actual members of the Democratic party because it suits their vanities of being "non-affiliated". Even though it's so EASY to declare one's self as being a Democrat when registering, they won't do it. In the end, they put in MORE EFFORT to complain about being "disenfranchised" (total nonsense, BTW) from party business. They'll go on for hours and days about how "unfair" it is that only Democrats get to pick the party's nominee... when it would have taken a mere 1/2 second to check the little box that says "Democrat" on their voter registration.
I guess that's the price of pride and vanity... and showing the world that they're not as smart as they originally wanted us to believe.
Anyway, here's the thing... Bernie's actions (and his damned lies) do absolutely NOTHING to encourage others to join the Democratic party, or to support the Democratic party, or to vote for Democratic candidates, or to volunteer for the Democratic party, or to contribute to the party and Democratic candidates.
His "both parties are the same" rhetoric (similar to Sarandon's lies) end up driving voters to support Stein or Nader... and that ALWAYS benefits the GOP (and by extension, it benefits RUSSIA!!)
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jack shite to some; to other Democrats, like me, he is very welcome to comment.
aikoaiko
Jul 2018
#2
He is a role model for every lefty independent out there with gripes about the party but won't join.
aikoaiko
Jul 2018
#53
Again, depending on what you're talking about, it might not be an attack in my eyes.
aikoaiko
Jul 2018
#86
I think reasonable people can disagree on what is an attack and what is criticism
aikoaiko
Jul 2018
#133
I think denying we work for the working class is bullshit, as is the accusation that
bettyellen
Jul 2018
#147
We don't have party registration in Wisconsin, rather we have open primaries
dragonlady
Jul 2018
#148
Are you under the impression his statement is an unusual "one line in a Sanders speech"?
betsuni
Jul 2018
#335
bernie critised DEMOCRATS !!! Our community here and he expects our votes
trueblue2007
Jul 2018
#175
Yeah well he didn't say that- he said what he said. Jeeze. The contortions people go through to
bettyellen
Jul 2018
#235
Wow been getting alert stalked over expecting support for the Dem party lately-
bettyellen
Jul 2018
#252
such a weird ass qualifier for words to mean anything. I have a lot of texts to go and throw away
JCanete
Jul 2018
#99
HaHa, BS.. Poll: Conor Lamb leads Keith Rothfus big, Dem enthusiasm high in key Pa. congressional..
Cha
Jul 2018
#200
How Arrogant is it to Give Condescending Advice to a Party One is Unwilling to Join?
dlk
Jul 2018
#7
Yes, he may be a secret corpo double agent sent to confuse the voters into voting against the
jalan48
Jul 2018
#66
"There all kinds of Dems".. Exactly. And Bernie type Dems have just as much right to run and
jalan48
Jul 2018
#43
Actually, I'm not missing anything. There are millions of Democrats who agree with Bernie's
jalan48
Jul 2018
#79
Well, time will tell won't it? My money is on the message of Sanders and others like him. The
jalan48
Jul 2018
#87
I believe you called it correctly . Makes me sick that he'd sideline a candidate with
Wwcd
Jul 2018
#134
I just reprimanded my stylus for opening up this thread about 'this guy' again.
sprinkleeninow
Jul 2018
#153
Where has he been? The Democratic Party has been and remains the party of the working class.
gtar100
Jul 2018
#14
I have to chuckle at all the hand-wringing and whining when LOYAL Democrats defend our party...
NurseJackie
Jul 2018
#84
Seriously? You really believe that Sanders wants Democrats to keep losing. Cause the reason they
Nanjeanne
Jul 2018
#45
Obviously, you think what Sanders is doing is just fine. You'll never change your mind.
tonyt53
Jul 2018
#56
I don't think anyone is perfect or the devil in the Democratic Party (and I consider Bernie an Indep
Nanjeanne
Jul 2018
#135
Actually, I have nothing to lose with trump as president. Wife and I have done well financially.
tonyt53
Jul 2018
#171
And with the same relevance, a druid will tell us how to celebrate Columbus day.
LanternWaste
Jul 2018
#27
I'm glad the Democratic leadership gave him the position of Chairman of Outreach.
Nanjeanne
Jul 2018
#33
It's true every time. But thank goodness Democrats I know in real life don't buy into this nonsense
Nanjeanne
Jul 2018
#136
Oh well if Wikipedia says that -- well it must be completely accurate. I was just
Nanjeanne
Jul 2018
#130
Oh my God you are hysterical. . They are quoting The Senate Steering Committee and Outreach Committe
Nanjeanne
Jul 2018
#167
How did this divisive shit turn out last time Bernie? Still taking Tad's advice?
MrsCoffee
Jul 2018
#41
It's not a FACT that the Dems "just" "represent the 1% -- even though Bernie said it.
pnwmom
Jul 2018
#107
Save it for the gop bernie. He says some good things, but, Im done w old bernie.
Crutchez_CuiBono
Jul 2018
#156
"The Democratic party doesn't represent the 1%. Bernie is lying when he says that." -- Thank you!!!
NurseJackie
Jul 2018
#258
That was a tactic used by Devine in the Bolivian campaign of Gonzalo (Goni) Sanchez de Lozada
ehrnst
Jul 2018
#346
The irony is that Bernie takes credit for Democratic initiatives aimed at registering new voters.
ucrdem
Jul 2018
#233
The Texas Civil Rights Project is suing Texas for failing to comply with Motor Voter
Gothmog
Jul 2018
#352
Bernie is basically saying "there's no difference between the parties" and that's WRONG!!
NurseJackie
Jul 2018
#365
There's no "alarm to sound". It's a goddamned LIE and it serves no good purpose.
NurseJackie
Jul 2018
#344
This thread is maybe the the longest I've seen. So I went to the very bottom.
rusty quoin
Jul 2018
#331
From what I can see, these attacks are part of (or followed-up with) a request for money.
NurseJackie
Jul 2018
#357
"All of you ... have no idea what goes on behind closed doors in Washington. He does!"
betsuni
Jul 2018
#338