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In reply to the discussion: Why Are So Many Leftists Skeptical of the Russia Investigation? [View all]Ezior
(505 posts)I have a friend here in Germany who is pretty far to the left (and yes, he's not a right-winger and not a libertarian or anything - definitely pretty far to the left).
And you can't really discuss the Russia issues with him in a normal way. If you bring up intelligence communities, he will start a rant about how you can't trust intelligence reports because of weapons of mass destruction in iraq. If you bring up Mueller and the IRA indictment, he will say that everybody does it and it's not that bad, because it's the voters fault when they trust the IRA messages. If you bring up DNC hacking by Russians, he will say that it was good that they stole those e-mails and gave them to Wikileaks, because it shows how the DNC wanted Hillary to win against Bernie.
He's very anti-war, and because of that he's very anti-US because of the wars/interventions in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya etc. I'm not sure but I guess he wants Germany to leave NATO. Generally, he's anti-"anything the so-called elite does or wants".
And when we had visitors from the US who are Democrats (after the primaries), he actually questioned their plans to vote for Hillary, because he apparently bought into that "Hillary means World War 3 starts in Syria" bullshit. So I'm glad he's not eligible to vote in the US, because he probably would not have voted in the General election because Bernie lost, or maybe even voted for Trump.
So there are definitely left wingers who don't get the Russia thing, I'm afraid. Another example is Kyle Kulinski.