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47. They all worked in Ukraine politics. That's the point. Yet it is only Devine being smeared here

Wed Aug 1, 2018, 12:30 AM

Aug 2018

Penn and Devine worked on Yanukovych's campaign at the same time. It makes no material difference that one of them worked for Clinton 2 years prior to Ukraine and the other went on to work on the Sanders campaign 5 years later.

The erroneous innuendo is nothing more than a backhanded way to slam Bernie Sanders. Why aren't we questioning Jimmy Carter,Walter Mondale,Mike Dukakis,Al Gore and John Kerry? That would be ridiculous! Devine worked in high level positions in all of their campaigns.

This guilt by association tactic is not something we Democrats should be pushing. If Devine did something wrong,Mueller will pass his name on for investigation. If that does not happen then this nonsense has to stop.

Here is where the chant came from. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-hillary-clinton-michael-stoker-epa-lock-her-up-chant-a8362566.html] A right wing jackass, inspired by Fox News and the "Hillary for Prison" bullshit started it. It's not as if a Madison Avenue high powered PR firm or political strategist would be needed to come up with such a simple
example of right wing classlessness.

It's time to stop the selective tarring of one of many democratic political consultants just because he has a tie to Bernie Sanders.

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How is it I never knew Tad Devine was a cohort of Paul Manafort? [View all] redstateblues Jul 2018 OP

Aah Yes... Tad Devine..Bernie Sanders Ten Million Dollar Man Me. Jul 2018 #1

Devine was in charge of television commercials and speeches Power 2 the People Jul 2018 #14

I Certainly Am Not And Do Not Appreciate Your Defaming Me For Telling The Truth Me. Jul 2018 #16

You are making the false accusations. Not me. Power 2 the People Jul 2018 #19

I Certainly Am Not Me. Jul 2018 #20

Since you posted the same thing in multiple posts I will just copy my response Power 2 the People Jul 2018 #24

Look If You Don't Want To Believe The Truth Me. Jul 2018 #25

You are either accidentally or deliberately conflating two OPPOSING Ukrainian politicians. pnwmom Aug 2018 #55

After it's been explained multiple times, you can only conclude that it's on purpose. kcr Aug 2018 #66

We know Tad Devine worked with Manafort on the Hortensis Aug 2018 #95

Let's remember Trump and Manafort are the criminals EndGOPPropaganda Jul 2018 #34

Are you okay with his work for Yanukovich? Adrahil Aug 2018 #87

BS is no democrat. And yes Devine did make that shit up. we can do it Aug 2018 #94

Short excerpt of this article: George II Jul 2018 #17

Thank You Me. Jul 2018 #18

Thank you George II and Me for this appalling info. I cannot keep up without help. nt Hekate Jul 2018 #21

Nice deflection but you accused Devine of originating that stupid chant. Power 2 the People Jul 2018 #22

Now You're Just Being Tiresome Me. Jul 2018 #23

Yep.You realized your false assumption about Devine was blown up by facts so you pivoted Power 2 the People Jul 2018 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author Me. Jul 2018 #31

Using the DAILY CALLER as a source??? Power 2 the People Jul 2018 #33

Excellent Me. Jul 2018 #35

Daily Caller is a RW source irisblue Jul 2018 #40

Thanks Me. Aug 2018 #62

You can't tell the difference between Putin's YANUKOVYCH and his opponent YUSCHENKO. pnwmom Aug 2018 #54

My link demonstrated that the people behind Yanukovych, who were directly aided by... George II Jul 2018 #26

The part about Devine starting the chant was a misguided assumption not based in fact Power 2 the People Jul 2018 #30

I opened all three. George II Jul 2018 #43

They all worked in Ukraine politics. That's the point. Yet it is only Devine being smeared here Power 2 the People Aug 2018 #47

That is like saying that Hillary and Trump are both the same because they're both American. pnwmom Aug 2018 #57

well yes since he worked for a Putin inspired candidate dsc Aug 2018 #69

The only one who was still very active in American Democratic politics AFTER.... George II Aug 2018 #76

No. Read your own article. Penn and Greenberg worked for a politician who OPPOSED pnwmom Aug 2018 #56

Who from Hillary's and Obama's campaigns worked in the Ukraine? n/t pnwmom Aug 2018 #52

This was reported before, but there was no implication of wrongdoing marylandblue Jul 2018 #2

Apparently the defense team wanted to make Manafort look Democratic friendly redstateblues Jul 2018 #6

Doesn't the prosecution decide what witness to call first? marylandblue Jul 2018 #7

Yes sarah FAILIN Jul 2018 #9

Well I'd like to think all of *our* money grubbers stay within the law marylandblue Jul 2018 #10

I don't feel like a money grubber would be playing on our team in the first place sarah FAILIN Jul 2018 #11

Testifying without immunity EndGOPPropaganda Jul 2018 #37

What comparison was made? N/T lapucelle Aug 2018 #77

We've known that here since early 2016. What's more shocking is that he is CURRENTLY advising OnDoutside Jul 2018 #3

Sanders needs to release his tax returns. yardwork Jul 2018 #28

Agreed! NurseJackie Aug 2018 #45

+1000. That would be prudent at this time. (nt) ehrnst Aug 2018 #70

+2000. n/t Tarheel_Dem Aug 2018 #78

That figures. Cha Aug 2018 #49

+1 uponit7771 Aug 2018 #59

Cuz he was working for Bernie? Stinky The Clown Jul 2018 #4

He's a professional tirebiter Jul 2018 #5

Thank you -- RandomAccess Jul 2018 #12

Yeah, but Devine was willing to work for him -- and he was a Putin ally. pnwmom Aug 2018 #58

Devine was willing to do the work if his price was met. lapucelle Aug 2018 #80

Their swamp runs deep UTUSN Jul 2018 #8

Political mercs pal around together. RhodeIslandOne Jul 2018 #13

There are a few pairs like that. dogman Jul 2018 #15

You must not read DU ornotna Jul 2018 #29

I'm a DU junkie since 2004. It was not plastered on the walls on a daily basis. redstateblues Jul 2018 #36

Well, maybe not daily ornotna Jul 2018 #44

I had a kidney stone and was out for a bit and was Autumn Aug 2018 #64

According to a spokesman, Devine was appearing at the Special Counsel's request. lapucelle Aug 2018 #81

That's right, he did help the SC in their case. Autumn Aug 2018 #82

That remains to be seen. lapucelle Aug 2018 #83

Political consultants suck. However Bernie was not the only Liberal Autumn Aug 2018 #85

Did he have other liberal clients after his entaglement with Manafort? N/T lapucelle Aug 2018 #86

I don't think his entaglement with Manafort matters. If it did Autumn Aug 2018 #88

I think all these entanglements matter. lapucelle Aug 2018 #89

Does that even matter? Is there a presidential campaign going on here? Autumn Aug 2018 #92

Anyone who hired him AFTER he was working for the Putin-ally in Ukraine pnwmom Aug 2018 #90

You mean after he worked with Manafort? Or before? (nt) ehrnst Aug 2018 #91

Does it bother you ornotna Aug 2018 #46

that was before he joined Manafort JI7 Aug 2018 #50

So, it's to be discounted. n/t ornotna Aug 2018 #51

It predates him working as a Russian asset. herding cats Aug 2018 #61

This Deserves A +1 Me. Aug 2018 #63

I think it would be wise of Senator Sanders to cut him loose ehrnst Aug 2018 #74

I don't know if it's true or not ornotna Aug 2018 #84

Best post on this topic. redstateblues Aug 2018 #93

Yes, because that's how time works. kcr Aug 2018 #65

Because if you posted it on DU in 2051/16 your post was hidden GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #32

This MaryMagdaline Jul 2018 #41

yup, EVERYTHING was how Hillary was Evil, Debbie Wasserman Shculz was evil, DNC evil JI7 Aug 2018 #48

ALL enid602 Jul 2018 #38

Hear hear!! redstateblues Jul 2018 #39

So there were good people on both sides ? OnDoutside Aug 2018 #53

+1 uponit7771 Aug 2018 #60

RUSSIA was NOT on The Democratic side of the aisle. Hortensis Aug 2018 #71

Enemy enid602 Aug 2018 #75

:) But that's a cynical joke for ruthless strong men Hortensis Aug 2018 #79

K&R Scurrilous Jul 2018 #42

shame on ted needing a paycheck dembotoz Aug 2018 #67

Because he worked for a candidate who opposed Hillary dsc Aug 2018 #68

Yep. (nt) ehrnst Aug 2018 #72

ASSOCIATIONS! Iggo Aug 2018 #73