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> You want to hang on to the correlation when it goes your way, but you decry it when it goes the other.

You need to learn better reading comprehension. My point reflected a completely different point. It was comparing gun deaths in the USA vs other countries. I've dropped discussing the false claim about "more guns = more safety", at least with you, since you seem to understand that there is no way to prove it one way or the other. This is true when speaking ONLY about the USA as an isolated case.

> If you look at the US murder rate in say, the late 1800's and compare to the UK (when neither country had much in the way of gun control), you'd see that the US still had a murder rate five times as high as the UK.

Five times what? The number of gun murders in cities? The number of gun murders in the country? The US & Britain were radically different in the late 1800s. Now you're introducing a million more new variables. Much more productive to keep the variables to a minimum, by comparing both countries in the 2000's when they're relatively the same socioeconomically speaking. Naturally I know this doesn't help the case for gun-relgion, but then facts rarely do.