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The deep cynicism of Bernie Sanders's chief strategist [View all] ehrnst Aug 2018 OP

Tad Devine is a Hypocrite. Cha Aug 2018 #1

With a record as an enabler of money grubbing murderous authoritarians ehrnst Aug 2018 #4

Yeah, it's sickening the way they Project.. you cannot make this shite up. Cha Aug 2018 #7

And we sucked down every tweet like a six year old sucks down Hershey bars ucrdem Aug 2018 #10

Too bad we(those who didn't suck it down).. Cha Aug 2018 #16

Some of us. Not all of us. calimary Aug 2018 #68

He's never been a major part of a winning presidential campaign Renew Deal Aug 2018 #58

But he's gotten rich by losing. George II Aug 2018 #103

Which really begs the question as to WHY this would be the case Hekate Aug 2018 #155

I don't know, but... George II Aug 2018 #162

That is Devine's track record Gothmog Aug 2018 #176

It seems that many people already agree with you... NurseJackie Aug 2018 #208

A mercenary Cha Aug 2018 #209

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Oh yes.. the WHATABOUT Hillary? talking point. Cha Aug 2018 #3

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Fucking tad devine.. worked with manafort to install a "murderous authoritarian and his allies" Cha Aug 2018 #8

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Who are they defending? (nt) ehrnst Aug 2018 #13

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Examining Tad Devine's record is "trashing Sanders?" ehrnst Aug 2018 #20

I wonder why they dont want to know about it. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2018 #169

Poor BS Cha Aug 2018 #23

Then how is it when BS calls the Democratic Party Cha Aug 2018 #35

"ignoring Dana Milbank blaming Bill Clinton for Trump" ehrnst Aug 2018 #39

We're not ignoring anything MaryMagdaline Aug 2018 #57

And he's no longer on DU. ehrnst Aug 2018 #138

And it wasn't even the CORRECT Podesta!!! George II Aug 2018 #140

Don't put words in my mouth, Chris Studio. Cha Aug 2018 #22

Devine and Manafort both ran the opposition campaign R B Garr Aug 2018 #51

It sounds like you are trying to trash Dems in a misguided effort to ehrnst Aug 2018 #24

Oh, you're trying to "unite the Dems" by trying to spread lies about John Podesta ehrnst Aug 2018 #65

False Equivalency justie18 Aug 2018 #75

The poster has been told that - but replies with "they both made millions off dictators." ehrnst Aug 2018 #76

Who is "working with the Saudis"? George II Aug 2018 #105

Yes, why is it none of the people currently in power answer for their own actions MaryMagdaline Aug 2018 #54

John Podesta never lobbied for Saudi Arabia - that was his brother Tony... ehrnst Aug 2018 #6

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He ran campaigns to put authoritarian into power, and keep them and their allies in power? ehrnst Aug 2018 #17

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Oh bullshit, Chris.. quit desperately trying to shutdown Cha Aug 2018 #25

I think you might want to explore what Democratic Underground's purpose is ehrnst Aug 2018 #32

You are confusing Tony and John Podesta. ehrnst Aug 2018 #52

Devine and Manafort. Devine and Manafort both ran R B Garr Aug 2018 #53

Tony Podesta did not work on the HRC campaign. Adrahil Aug 2018 #81

And making false statements to support their whataboutism/false equivalency... ehrnst Aug 2018 #93

Devine and Manafort. They enriched themselves all while conducting a campaign of lies R B Garr Aug 2018 #83

Podesta clarification justie18 Aug 2018 #36

Apparently the Chris doesn't make a distinction. ehrnst Aug 2018 #59

Hmm... a spanking new poster thinking about "walking away." I totally buy it. Squinch Aug 2018 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author Squinch Aug 2018 #108

welcome to DU gopiscrap Aug 2018 #185

Ya gotta love apologists for war criminals Augiedog Aug 2018 #38

You gotta love apologists for tad devine working with Manafort Cha Aug 2018 #42

What would be wrong with supporting the Magnitsky Act?? Are those types R B Garr Aug 2018 #84

What war criminals are you talking about? ehrnst Aug 2018 #86

Do explain Hekate Aug 2018 #161

Ah, the "But Hillary" deflection mcar Aug 2018 #45

Not just Podesta and Devine. Mark Penn's firms have been involved Autumn Aug 2018 #46

Why yes, that's so relevant to this article about Tad Devine. ehrnst Aug 2018 #77

Yes it is very relevant, thanks for acknowledging that fact, Autumn Aug 2018 #79

Not seeing in your post anything to support your whataboutism or that negates the OpEd. ehrnst Aug 2018 #87

A post in a thread about Tad Devine, his work in the Ukraine. A post about Autumn Aug 2018 #98

Whataboutism: ehrnst Aug 2018 #125

. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2018 #127

A perfect whataboutism . Autumn Aug 2018 #141

Got nothin, do ya? ehrnst Aug 2018 #187

What's irrelevant is "whatevs." Autumn Aug 2018 #189

I just said that you left it out of your ehrnst Aug 2018 #190

I addressed the post very well.Are you now the post police? Autumn Aug 2018 #192

You can continue to post non-answers ehrnst Aug 2018 #193

Devine and Manafort ran the opposition campaigns R B Garr Aug 2018 #143

Article title: "The deep cynicism of Bernie Sanders' R B Garr Aug 2018 #144

There you go again. Did you read this? Autumn Aug 2018 #146

I do give a f**k about Devine. How absurd that R B Garr Aug 2018 #147

Try reading what I posted and stop trying to misrepresent what I said. Autumn Aug 2018 #156

You keep trying to divert attention away from Devine and Manafort R B Garr Aug 2018 #167

That timeline has been totally debunked by recent emails. That he lied about the timing and those bettyellen Aug 2018 #153

This "fact" appears to be wrong. lapucelle Aug 2018 #182

Devine was working with Manafort and Kilimnik in June 2014, lapucelle Aug 2018 #188

What a smart, patriotic person would do is want to know the truth, period. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2018 #170

That's an excellent question, Eliot mcar Aug 2018 #173

I am not implying the Bernie people here are involved, actually. I think Eliot Rosewater Aug 2018 #174

I'm all for transparency mcar Aug 2018 #181

Exactly. Some were not too interested in the Russia interference scandal, but now that R B Garr Aug 2018 #183

Yep, particularly your last paragraph stevenleser Aug 2018 #205

That's TONY Podesta, not John Podesta. I don't think Tony worked on any.... George II Aug 2018 #120

+1 n/t ejbr Aug 2018 #47

"We" are not fighting each other. Tad Devine is not one of us MaryMagdaline Aug 2018 #50

+1000 ehrnst Aug 2018 #133

Big difference. The Clintons have shown decades of tax returns and withstood MrsCoffee Aug 2018 #60

Yes. nt Skidmore Aug 2018 #71

There is a reason and a SERIOUS one why we cant see them! Eliot Rosewater Aug 2018 #171

+1. KPN Aug 2018 #88

Do we get to quote anti-Bernie folks about who cost Hillary the Presidency?? R B Garr Aug 2018 #90

It sounds like Devine, like Manafort, brer cat Aug 2018 #12

Working for Ukraine authoritarians and Bernie's senate campaign at the same time. ehrnst Aug 2018 #33

Questions a patriot would ask. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2018 #172

That "other firm" is Old Towne Media, LLC, a media company about which very little information.... George II Aug 2018 #129

Focus people, Republicans! Brogrizzly Aug 2018 #15

STFU? We're not supposed to talk about Tad Devine's political resume? ehrnst Aug 2018 #18

You're insulting with your "STFU".. who are you to Cha Aug 2018 #21

Telling ppl on a discussion board to STFU isn't really an effective point irisblue Aug 2018 #26

WTH does the name "Tad" brer cat Aug 2018 #27

*Facepalm* look at the title Brogrizzly Aug 2018 #28

What "title" has something to do with being named "Tad?" brer cat Aug 2018 #40

This isn't about 2016, Sanders or Clinton. It's about Tad Devine in the years leading up to 2014. ehrnst Aug 2018 #29

this is related to trump. Hillary was the victim of the Russian attack on the elections JI7 Aug 2018 #30

Apology accepted. (nt) ehrnst Aug 2018 #34

Thank you, Brogrizzly. Cha Aug 2018 #37

I just get so damn mad Brogrizzly Aug 2018 #41

Yeah, I get mad, too.. and sometimes Cha Aug 2018 #44

We can talk about more than one thing - the Manafort trial and the child abductions. Otherwise ehrnst Aug 2018 #55

If only the attack of the D party would stop, maybe others would but it wasnt but Eliot Rosewater Aug 2018 #177

...yeah Brogrizzly Aug 2018 #184

Yeah, sure... Eliot Rosewater Aug 2018 #194

How laughable. A political "consultant" is being exposed as a hypocrite, R B Garr Aug 2018 #197

Look, I get your dig, maybe it's deserved. Brogrizzly Aug 2018 #201

Watching and commenting about current news certainly R B Garr Aug 2018 #202

Right, well I'm thinking more of an argument of past vs future tenses. Brogrizzly Aug 2018 #203

Your concern is noted. A lot of concern over upsetting R B Garr Aug 2018 #204

A person closely connected with Manafort being Hortensis Aug 2018 #31

Facts Me. Aug 2018 #118

Even though he was only temporarily on the Democratic Party teat, Hortensis Aug 2018 #132

And Yet Me. Aug 2018 #142

:) He seems to have been trying to build a power base Hortensis Aug 2018 #159

What we need are people to get to the point where single payer is less important to them Eliot Rosewater Aug 2018 #175

Absolutely. It would also help if they realized Hortensis Aug 2018 #191

ANY Comment that we should not focus on Russia is a KGB talking point, btw Eliot Rosewater Aug 2018 #195

+1000. So is the claim seen everywhere that Hortensis Aug 2018 #196

K&R mcar Aug 2018 #43

It's the contrast Lulu KC Aug 2018 #48

. progressoid Aug 2018 #49

. . ehrnst Aug 2018 #70

A mercenary is, after all, the ultimate cynic DFW Aug 2018 #56

+1000 ehrnst Aug 2018 #61

You know, what I like to tell people... louis c Aug 2018 #62

It's a good thing it is brought up here daily. progressoid Aug 2018 #67

It was Sanders's voters who stayed home, voted 3rd party or wrote in in 2016 louis c Aug 2018 #72

Really? Got some stats to support that opinion? progressoid Aug 2018 #99

You want to compare McCain to Trump? louis c Aug 2018 #101

I'm not comparing McCain to Trump. progressoid Aug 2018 #114

That doesn't explain the Sanders' voters louis c Aug 2018 #115

It's not irrelevent knowledge progressoid Aug 2018 #130

I offer this without comment radical noodle Aug 2018 #186

I offer this without comment progressoid Aug 2018 #211

Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania emulatorloo Aug 2018 #207

I'm guessing you didn't actually read the link you provided. progressoid Aug 2018 #210

Of course I read the link. Morris crunched Schaffner's numbers, that's how they came out for those emulatorloo Aug 2018 #215

Yes the McCain administration was a nightmare. I will never forget it. emulatorloo Aug 2018 #109

! MrsCoffee Aug 2018 #166

Oh, noes! What's been revealed in the Manafort trial is going to stop people from voting!!! ehrnst Aug 2018 #200

Kick...nt SidDithers Aug 2018 #206

Thanks for the analysis. progressoid Aug 2018 #212

Oh. What a burn... ehrnst Aug 2018 #213

Propaganda at Work Roy Rolling Aug 2018 #63

The RuBots are strong in this thread... Wounded Bear Aug 2018 #64

Especially the ones trying to say that John Podesta did far worse than Tad Devine ehrnst Aug 2018 #74

Yeah, Intellectual dishonesty never goes out of style at DU emulatorloo Aug 2018 #110

I wonder what the longest space between posts on that awful Bernie Sanders has been el_bryanto Aug 2018 #66

This is a post concerning Tad Devine. ehrnst Aug 2018 #69

Sure. Sure. Keep telling yourself that. progressoid Aug 2018 #96

To me this is mostly a post about hypocrisy. thucythucy Aug 2018 #116

Yes. mcar Aug 2018 #136

"Equally?" It's about how Tad Devine seems to have a cynicism about 'ethics' ehrnst Aug 2018 #128

He actually went from campaigning for Sanders, then to campaigning for a murderous autocrat.... George II Aug 2018 #135

Sorry, I should have been more specific - Sanders and Devine are mentioned equally in the progressoid Aug 2018 #168

You might want to read the OP Cha Aug 2018 #73

Don't worry I know i'm supposed to hate Bernie Sanders. el_bryanto Aug 2018 #100

Don't you worry.. nobody cares about that crap. Cha Aug 2018 #106

For something nobody cares about some people sure post a lot of posts about it. nt el_bryanto Aug 2018 #112

Sorry you're not understanding. Nobody gives a CRAP Cha Aug 2018 #164

It is a well done WP article Gothmog Aug 2018 #117

I Guess News Shouldn't Be Reported Me. Aug 2018 #121

Oh we know that!!! Too bad.. Cha Aug 2018 #165

So Much Bad Judgment Going On Over There Me. Aug 2018 #179

Yes, and trying to blame Cha Aug 2018 #180

Devine and Manafort. One is on trial now. That is what this current news R B Garr Aug 2018 #85

K&R sheshe2 Aug 2018 #78

Rec. nt LexVegas Aug 2018 #80

And we wonder why people don't vote. Get money out of politics! KPN Aug 2018 #89

As long as TV ads are part of campaigns, along with airline tix, paid staff ehrnst Aug 2018 #92

I did say "there's a bit of idealism for you", did I not? KPN Aug 2018 #97

Still not clear on what campaign finance reform and people not voting has to ehrnst Aug 2018 #119

Sure. Some people don't vote because they KPN Aug 2018 #131

So... how is this related to the OP? ehrnst Aug 2018 #134

I'm sure you can extrapolate. KPN Aug 2018 #145

You think that people aren't voting because of Tad Devine's past? ehrnst Aug 2018 #148

Well, I guess I was wrong. KPN Aug 2018 #158

Being deliberately vague to avoid running afoul of guidelines ehrnst Aug 2018 #163

I guess tad devine's history of hypocrisy Cha Aug 2018 #111

Paul Manafort worked for free! lololololololol R B Garr Aug 2018 #95

Great editorial Gothmog Aug 2018 #91

Please, let's not start a Bernie v. Hillary war. zanana1 Aug 2018 #94

I'm not doing that. Please address those who are. ehrnst Aug 2018 #104

Please get a grip.. this is Not about Hillary. Cha Aug 2018 #107

Who is doing that? mcar Aug 2018 #137

Bernie isn't a Democratic candidate either. nt TexasTowelie Aug 2018 #150

Good point mcar Aug 2018 #152

Considering this is nothing about Hillary, there is no sanders v Hillary war all american girl Aug 2018 #151

Wow, that last sentence above is biting! George II Aug 2018 #102

Looks like the Post prefers " 's " sl8 Aug 2018 #113

I was taught that when a word ends with "s", the apostrophe goes after the "s".... George II Aug 2018 #122

AP Style agrees with you, but NYT style won out with WAPO. ehrnst Aug 2018 #124

Here are the rules for formal writing. lapucelle Aug 2018 #160

NYT style on punctuation: ehrnst Aug 2018 #123

this crew was going to work for Poroshenko makes me worry about Ukraine MattP Aug 2018 #126

KnR Hekate Aug 2018 #139

For background and context this Salon piece is interesting. lapucelle Aug 2018 #149

Ironic: George II Aug 2018 #154

And as much Sanders rails against the professional political class, campaign aides say he is willing Cha Aug 2018 #178

Interesting. ehrnst Aug 2018 #199

K&R betsuni Aug 2018 #157

Drain the Swamp TM yardwork Aug 2018 #198

I think Bernie will be getting a new chief strategist when he runs next time. jalan48 Aug 2018 #214

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Aug 2018 #218

From my twitter feed Gothmog Aug 2018 #216

Remember Devine and Manafort communicated *during* the campaign too. KitSileya Aug 2018 #217