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In reply to the discussion: MI-GOV: Abdul continues his daily scorched earth attacks against Whitmer. [View all]

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68. Well, genius.. You weren't "Clear" when you
Reply to lapucelle (Reply #64)
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 11:41 PM
Aug 2018

accused Gretchen Whitmer of "money laundering". Disinformation Accusations Much?



Mahalo, lapucelle!
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MI-GOV: Abdul continues his daily scorched earth attacks against Whitmer. [View all] RandySF Aug 2018 OP
Great... this bullshit again! Adrahil Aug 2018 #1
If the shoe fits... Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #2
Too bad the BS guy isn't too bright.. Cha Aug 2018 #10
What exactly is not true about that tweet? Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #16
Bad messaging.. the disingenuos smears on Gretchen Whitmer are "utter nonsense" Cha Aug 2018 #18
Your attempt to answer my question only begged more questions Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #20
El Sayed has bad messaging.. doesn't set a good example Cha Aug 2018 #22
And how is using a super pac with millions of dollars in unreported donors sending a positive messag Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #24
It's a lie heaven05 Aug 2018 #56
Thank you. brer cat Aug 2018 #123
It's not a superpac. It's a 527 just like Act Blue. lapucelle Aug 2018 #60
Thank You for all the information about 501s, lapucelle! Cha Aug 2018 #107
Are you aware that Our Revolution is not required to disclose their donors to either the IRS or the emulatorloo Aug 2018 #63
Does that mean it's a dark money PAC? comradebillyboy Aug 2018 #101
Our Revolution a dark money 501(c)(4). lapucelle Aug 2018 #117
Taking dark money was a suprise to those who were in on the start of OR ehrnst Aug 2018 #148
Well, Gretchen Whitmer has no superpac, and the 527 Ninsianna Aug 2018 #205
He's one of those our revolution people heaven05 Aug 2018 #55
Yes, it's Clear El Sayed only cares about himself. Cha Aug 2018 #58
Our Revolution is a dark money group. lapucelle Aug 2018 #61
yep heaven05 Aug 2018 #62
So is Onward Together, the dark-money group established by Hillary Clinton Jim Lane Aug 2018 #136
Onward Together was organized as a superpac, not a 501(c)(4) lapucelle Aug 2018 #141
It's confusing. Our Revolution exploits this confusion to push their smear campaigns. kcr Aug 2018 #154
Along the lines of their slur of Sri Kulkarni in Texas a few months ago. George II Aug 2018 #157
Onward Together's own website says it's a 501(c)(4) Jim Lane Aug 2018 #162
Oh dear... lapucelle Aug 2018 #173
+1 uponit7771 Aug 2018 #195
Yes, that's the lie that Abdul El Sayed and his dark money backers are Ninsianna Aug 2018 #209
You cite FEC regulations, not all of which apply here. Jim Lane Aug 2018 #217
His implications are toxic and dirty, and people are not pleased with how he's been Ninsianna Aug 2018 #222
Please clarify about Crain's coverage Jim Lane Aug 2018 #231
Crain's engaged in speculation, they could not back up anything they implied. Ninsianna Aug 2018 #236
You are completely mischaracterizing what Crain's wrote Jim Lane Aug 2018 #237
You seem to be ignoring what Crains wrote and their speculation. Ninsianna Aug 2018 #238
Your accusation is that Crain's had no evidence for what it didn't say. That's total BS. Jim Lane Aug 2018 #239
Thank you for clearing up the misinformation that has clearly filtered down to DU.(nt) ehrnst Aug 2018 #163
A further exegesis follows, complicated by the utter opacity lapucelle Aug 2018 #174
I suspect it is the result of ehrnst Aug 2018 #207
It included a very sad tale about a young man lapucelle Aug 2018 #210
OMG - it took MORE THAN A MONTH ehrnst Aug 2018 #212
You mean like "establishment Democrat" is a perjorative term with no ehrnst Aug 2018 #166
You appear not to have read this thread carefully Jim Lane Aug 2018 #184
I see blocking you from PM'ing me only makes things worse for everyone else here ehrnst Aug 2018 #204
Onward Together comprises three entities: lapucelle Aug 2018 #213
A Pizzagate reference? Really? lapucelle Aug 2018 #214
Is Onward Together somehow involved in the MI governors race? Ninsianna Aug 2018 #203
How is calling out the lies and smears this guy engages in "nonsense" Ninsianna Aug 2018 #202
What "shoe"? Looks like El-Sayed has put his foot in his mouth. George II Aug 2018 #114
Again uponit7771 Aug 2018 #196
Obviously the shoe doesn't fit. betsuni Aug 2018 #116
Where are Bernie's tax returns? Where did his campaign donations come from? yardwork Aug 2018 #158
Thank You for bringing that up, yardwork. Cha Aug 2018 #175
Lovely. The 2018 equivalent of "her speeches." Bleacher Creature Aug 2018 #3
He has a teacher. Blue_true Aug 2018 #9
Amen! Cha Aug 2018 #11
How is Sherri doing? nt Blue_true Aug 2018 #12
Sherry Alu Campagna is still pushing for debates Cha Aug 2018 #14
Get everyone you know to vote and hope for the best. nt Blue_true Aug 2018 #15
If he hurts Whitmer enough for the Republican to win the general comradebillyboy Aug 2018 #4
What does he really care about Cha Aug 2018 #13
Not sure how that is "trolling for trump supporters" Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #27
Keep wondering.. plenty of people see it. Cha Aug 2018 #28
K. Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #29
El Sayed is trying to Smear Gretchen Whitmer.. NOT Working.. Cha Aug 2018 #31
Still to me looks like the only smearing going on is Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #33
That's too bad you can't see it.. this is a tweet on his latest Cha Aug 2018 #35
"Smear" implies the information is not true Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #36
How about accusing your opponent of a Federal crime without evidence? Cha Aug 2018 #37
Another strawman not worth addressing. Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #41
lol@"strawman".. Michigan Voter.. Cha Aug 2018 #43
So, where's your evidence she commited the federal crime of money laundering? kcr Aug 2018 #39
Oh? He said she laundered money? Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #42
Right here kcr Aug 2018 #45
He's done... LuvLoogie Aug 2018 #59
Citation provided via screenshot. lapucelle Aug 2018 #96
Screenshots weren't loading for me before apparently. Sorry Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #104
You don't think that falsely and publicly accusing an opponent of a federal crime lapucelle Aug 2018 #182
He deleted it.. Cha Aug 2018 #179
".. he's willfully spreading disinformation and defamation because he's desperate." Cha Aug 2018 #44
It isn't true. El Sayed edited his tweet, lapucelle Aug 2018 #92
Really? Link? Screenshot? Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #97
How many times do I have to post the screenshot? This will be the third. lapucelle Aug 2018 #100
I guess that poster doesn't want to play anymore now that facts are being brought in. MrsCoffee Aug 2018 #132
Because he saw he was wrong. Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #218
The irony... ehrnst Aug 2018 #225
What? Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #230
,,, lapucelle Aug 2018 #102
Really? LOL betsuni Aug 2018 #119
lol n/t kcr Aug 2018 #125
This message was self-deleted by its author MrsCoffee Aug 2018 #130
Oh get fucking real. MrsCoffee Aug 2018 #129
why mention Trump at all? Dyedinthewoolliberal Aug 2018 #51
are you saying you prefer trump over Bernie? Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #53
Poster said nothing of the sort. emulatorloo Aug 2018 #65
That's why I asked, to clarify Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #83
Oh FFS... SidDithers Aug 2018 #73
are you being obtuse? Dyedinthewoolliberal Aug 2018 #140
Are you? Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #147
is this the guy endorsed by bernie sanders? nt msongs Aug 2018 #5
Yeah RandySF Aug 2018 #6
Yes and Nina.. Cha Aug 2018 #26
YES heaven05 Aug 2018 #57
I like Abdul..but I also like Whitmer Buckeyeblue Aug 2018 #7
For starters he's the only candidate who is backing medicare for all Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #17
I don't care what he's endorsing.. El Sayed is showing he's Cha Aug 2018 #19
He is the better candidate because he reports all of his donors Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #21
El Sayed is definitely Not the better candidate. Cha Aug 2018 #23
We can agree to disagree. Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #25
El Sayed is exposing himself as desperate with his wild Cha Aug 2018 #46
no Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #47
Yes, El Sayed has terrible judgement. Cha Aug 2018 #48
Like using a super PAC to hide contributions? Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #49
El Sayed is accusing Gretchen of a Federal Crime with Cha Aug 2018 #50
Actually he didn't Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #71
Educate yourself.. he deleted his freaking tweet Cha Aug 2018 #74
Our Revolution is a dark money group. Not required to disclose donors to the IRS or FEC emulatorloo Aug 2018 #66
Thank You, Cha Aug 2018 #70
I can't even emulatorloo Aug 2018 #72
Me neither. Cha Aug 2018 #75
Somehow they still do. Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #76
Link? emulatorloo Aug 2018 #77
That was a direct quote from their website found here Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #78
Thanks for the link. Then why was it set up as a 501c4? emulatorloo Aug 2018 #79
The donors are listed on the site and when you donate you are required to disclose your information Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #82
"The admittedly do not disclose all donors". Nuff said, they are not accountable to the IRS nor FEC emulatorloo Aug 2018 #85
Donations under 200 are not required to be reported anyways Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #87
You are missing the point. If they wanted to be "transparent" they would not be a 501c4 emulatorloo Aug 2018 #90
I think whether they report them or not is easy to tell Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #93
Justice Democrats also pay out huge consultancy fees - which was their criticism of the DNC. JHan Aug 2018 #88
Link? Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #89
Yes one of their big critiques of the DNC was the use of consultants.. JHan Aug 2018 #105
Thank you for posting this. Interesting. betsuni Aug 2018 #109
Can you give me a link where they are criticizing the use of consultants? Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #112
Here ya go: ehrnst Aug 2018 #113
Thanks! Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #143
There are mulitple statements dissing "consultants" that make it very clear what they think ehrnst Aug 2018 #149
You keep asking for links, insinuating we are liars. betsuni Aug 2018 #115
Odd when people never acknowledge the linky goodness they demand. lapucelle Aug 2018 #124
I explained this in a previous post which has not been acknowledged. Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #144
... betsuni Aug 2018 #178
Right back atcha! Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #180
... betsuni Aug 2018 #193
Actually i explained this in a previous post which has not been acknowledged Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #146
Seems like Justice Democrats and Brand New Congress trade money back and forth! Details: George II Aug 2018 #133
Yep, it all looks very suspect. JHan Aug 2018 #150
That's pretty Skidmore Aug 2018 #159
Bingo. Because part of those "ideals" involved fracturing the Democratic party. LisaM Aug 2018 #176
Not to worry. theaocp Aug 2018 #181
These kinds of attacks impeach his judgment. Adrahil Aug 2018 #38
Well said. n/t emulatorloo Aug 2018 #80
Has Our Relvolution given him any material support dsc Aug 2018 #99
... Scurrilous Aug 2018 #8
A Wealthy Opportunist Is Playing Michigan Progressives For Fools tirebiter Aug 2018 #30
He is the real enemy. Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #34
Is he slinging mud at other Democrats? Adrahil Aug 2018 #40
He only recently decided to run as a Democrat last fall Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #185
I wonder what reason El Sayed is being attacked? GulfCoast66 Aug 2018 #52
El Sayed is the one attacking Whitmer and accusing her of money laundering JI7 Aug 2018 #191
This message was self-deleted by its author George II Aug 2018 #172
For this thread Gothmog Aug 2018 #32
no matter what Abdul alleges heaven05 Aug 2018 #54
He's trying to walk it back. lapucelle Aug 2018 #64
Well, genius.. You weren't "Clear" when you Cha Aug 2018 #68
Thank you, Cha, for posting so many tweets. I appreciate it. betsuni Aug 2018 #94
No problem, betsuni.. The arrogance and the Gaslighting Cha Aug 2018 #106
Now that's a Democrat! United against Republicans who want to destroy America. betsuni Aug 2018 #108
Exactly! Cha Aug 2018 #111
If Whitmer brings a defamation suit, she will lose. Jim Lane Aug 2018 #138
Abdul El Sayed accused her of "money laundering" like Cha Aug 2018 #177
This guy's an a****** uponit7771 Aug 2018 #197
Agreed! And, who wants that Cha Aug 2018 #199
Hand sanders really endorsed him? uponit7771 Aug 2018 #200
Of course. Cha Aug 2018 #208
I googled legal money laundering sheshe2 Aug 2018 #164
"Give me a break, Abdul. You've received $170,000 from corporate executives lapucelle Aug 2018 #206
lol Love the quote. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #216
This is also in his twitter feed. lapucelle Aug 2018 #67
Cult of personality? comradebillyboy Aug 2018 #103
I wonder what would irk Lucas/Disney more... lapucelle Aug 2018 #118
Jesus fucking Christ ismnotwasm Aug 2018 #69
Whitmer or we can kiss this governorship goodbye. PrairieBlueCat Aug 2018 #81
I'm for whoever Michael Moore endorses. mountain grammy Aug 2018 #84
just out of curiosity - why base your endorsement on someone else's endorsement? JHan Aug 2018 #86
Michael is a Flint, Michigan native mountain grammy Aug 2018 #91
He'd probably want you to think for yourself. emulatorloo Aug 2018 #95
Do you live in MI? mountain grammy Aug 2018 #120
I grew up in Flint, and I'm a big fan of Michael's. kcr Aug 2018 #128
Like I said, I'll support whoever wins the primary. mountain grammy Aug 2018 #135
Great post, kcr.. Exactly! Cha Aug 2018 #188
So suggesting a thoughtful guy like Moore emulatorloo Aug 2018 #161
Not even close to what I said but you do tend to make it up as you go along. mountain grammy Aug 2018 #165
Sorry you took offense to my observation about Moore's style emulatorloo Aug 2018 #170
.. Cha Aug 2018 #192
That's Not true what you said about emulatorloo.. Cha Aug 2018 #189
If you don't live in Michigan then why are you involved in their primary? yardwork Aug 2018 #219
Yes, but he's not the only person who cares for Michigan? JHan Aug 2018 #98
He's put his money where he comes mountain grammy Aug 2018 #121
I want democrats elected. I don't need to go into details about my own activism.. JHan Aug 2018 #127
that's nice of you.. mountain grammy Aug 2018 #131
El Sayed has done nothing but attack Cha Aug 2018 #186
Abdul is connecting with voters. James48 Aug 2018 #110
According to RCP, Abdul is running dead last in all the polling. Whitmer is +20. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2018 #122
Thank you! sheshe2 Aug 2018 #167
Hey She! Tarheel_Dem Aug 2018 #168
Back at ya, Tarheel sheshe2 Aug 2018 #169
Good to Know, Tarheel! Is that why El Sayed Cha Aug 2018 #190
I just love the internet. You can't hide from your lies, even if you delete them. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2018 #220
.. Cha Aug 2018 #221
More baloney, lol. MrsCoffee Aug 2018 #134
Huh?? According to polling he has been stuck in the teens since June. honest.abe Aug 2018 #137
I'll play awesomerwb1 Aug 2018 #151
Play away! honest.abe Aug 2018 #152
My bad, replied to the wrong post awesomerwb1 Aug 2018 #153
No problem. honest.abe Aug 2018 #155
Here are the RCP averages: George II Aug 2018 #139
Abdul is getting Major Pushback on Twitter for stupidly accusing Cha Aug 2018 #187
Abdul is the candidate who didn't decide until KCDebbie Aug 2018 #126
Um... that was Thanedar PassingFair Aug 2018 #142
Thank you so much for clearing that up! KCDebbie Aug 2018 #145
Umm...they've been here since 2003 - you've been here a month...wtf is this shit? n/t Fix The Stupid Aug 2018 #160
I'm playing the long con... PassingFair Aug 2018 #171
This is sick. He is trying to hand the election to the Republican. yardwork Aug 2018 #156
+1 uponit7771 Aug 2018 #198
These attacks are pissing me off Gothmog Aug 2018 #183
I think this hyperfocus on campaign finance is killing the progressive movement. kcr Aug 2018 #194
Thank you! The GOP are by far the biggest beneficiaries of corporate donations. betsuni Aug 2018 #201
Bingo. It's propaganda and it's having its intended effect. yardwork Aug 2018 #211
+a million! This is getting to the essence of it all. R B Garr Aug 2018 #215
Nah. SkyDancer Aug 2018 #223
Yeah. Too bad no one's talking about that now, right? kcr Aug 2018 #224
Does this really surprise anyone? ehrnst Aug 2018 #226
Yup. TAD is STILL on Bernie's payroll. Doing just what he & Manafort did for Putin in the Ukraine. Wwcd Aug 2018 #228
These attacks are silly and sad Gothmog Aug 2018 #227
She is now saying the same thing about him. Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #229
Here is another great endorsement for Whitmer Gothmog Aug 2018 #232
Great! Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #233
I hope that Whitmer wins by a good margin Gothmog Aug 2018 #234
We'll see how it goes Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #235
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